Rhapakatui Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Then start shooting and shut the hell up. I haven't read any responses past the quoted post. I'm going to, but I feel like I should first apologize. I went too far here. I was pissed off at the news. Not any Ratsuners. I half expected to be banned for this comment, but I was sober and didn't give a fuck. Lesson learned. I understand if some don't forgive me. 2 Link to comment
datzenmike Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Symbolic Oh, and clean coal Symbolic of what? that you can revive an industry that doesn't have many workers to with? Why not get more bang for the buck? Where is this coal going? As it's not produced now, there isn't a market for it. Who's buying it? Link to comment
racerx Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Coal is going down because of cleaner tech but it sounds that these jobs are making a come back. Link to comment
paradime Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 k then..... Negative Environmental Impacts of Hybrid Vehicles Just because you're plugging in your car to power it up doesn't mean you're automatically using clean energy. Different cities and states produce electric power through different energy sources. If your city's or state's power grid uses hydroelectricity, then chances are you can feel pretty good about the environmental impact you're making with your hybrid. That said, in a study by Ohio State University♂, if your city's or state's power grid is fueled with coal or oil, you may end up emitting as much or more pollution as a traditional vehicle in order to power your car. Consider the Batteries Compared Traditional vehicles use lead-acid batteries and have long been a source of contention in the automotive industry. Lead is a toxic chemical that can be released into the environment, causing long-term damage. Most hybrids use nickel-hydride and lithium-ion batteries thought to be better for the environment, but that may not entirely be true. According to the Environmental Protection Agency♂, nickel is a probable human carcinogen, and improperly disposing of nickel-hydride batteries can pose an environmental hazard. Also, the website HybridCars♂, states that there are environmental concerns regarding the mining required to create these batteries. More Heavy Metals in the Car Construction In addition to the nickel used in some hybrid batteries, hybrids use large amounts of copper in their electric drive motors and wiring. Like nickel, copper must be mined and is mined either from open pits or underground mines in a way that can lead to further environmental degradation. The University of Illinois Urbana-Champagne's Illinois Sustainable Technology Center♂ found that copper mining contributes to particulate air emissions of various metals and sulfuric acid. It is possible for mining companies to mitigate most of these emissions, but not all copper mines do. Open pit mining is also known as strip mining, and involves the stripping of surface grasses, trees and dirt to unearth the deposits of minerals. http://greenliving.lovetoknow.com/Hybrid_Vehicles_Negative_Environmental_Impact Classic, Quoting a 13 year old fluff piece. Did you happen to read the part that said "A 2004 report by the Connecticut General Assembly? The article didn't even mention lithium ion batteries as the only batteries being used in electric cars. Pointless garbage, but look at all the likes it gets. :thumbup: Link to comment
Draker Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Plenty of other articles out there if you don't like that one. 2 Link to comment
paradime Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Plenty of other articles out there if you don't like that one. Than why not post and like one that doesn't make your argument against electric cars look foolish? Link to comment
Draker Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Mining lithium.. or cobalt isn't exactly environmentally friendly. The chemical process and byproduct isn't exactly environmentally friendly either. That's why you don't see battery manufacturing places here in the states. Highly cancerous process from start to finish. Not to mention the child labor used for mining. 1 Link to comment
a.d._510_n_ok Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Car plowed into NJ crowd Multiple pedestrians were struck in Clementon, New Jersey Monday night. The crime scene is at East Atlantic Avenue–near Clementon Park. According to WTXF, at least five victims were involved, their conditions were not known. It was unclear if the act was intentional. Police are investigating. http://breaking911.com/breaking-several-pedestrians-mowed-car-new-jersey-heres-know/ Link to comment
paradime Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Mining lithium.. or cobalt isn't exactly environmentally friendly. The chemical process and byproduct isn't exactly environmentally friendly either. That's why you don't see battery manufacturing places here in the states. Highly cancerous process from start to finish. Not to mention the child labor used for mining. No argument there. Nevada is ramping up mining the stuff, and so is Great Britain. It'll be interesting to see how the W.H.O. will spin their shit on this one. This is a different topic than 'because coal is burned to make electricity it means electric cars pollute as much as gas cars'. can we let that on go? Link to comment
racerx Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Worldwide I think we do, China leading the pack with coal usage, more cars on the road, I don't think China or India smogs their vehicles. We are probably doing our part but not these countries. As their economy grows so does consumption goes up too. 1 Link to comment
Mattndew76 Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 This is crazy but krickets on the big news channels. Lots of 3rd and 4th page treatment. http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2017/08/08/clayton-carter-murder-charge/ 1 Link to comment
Draker Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 No argument there. Nevada is ramping up mining the stuff, and so is Great Britain. It'll be interesting to see how the W.H.O. will spin their shit on this one. This is a different topic than 'because coal is burned to make electricity it means electric cars pollute as much as gas cars'. can we let that on go? The coal argument is interesting. I can't prove or disprove it. Link to comment
datzenmike Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Why are the coal miners out of work? Link to comment
240zness Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Symbolic of what? that you can revive an industry that doesn't have many workers to with? Why not get more bang for the buck? Where is this coal going? As it's not produced now, there isn't a market for it. Who's buying it?Just threw that out as usual, don't know much on the subject.. symbolic for a president savin' jobs , historic industry I guess could be said , even if it shouldn't be supported ?? Edit: wish I would've updated page Link to comment
125 CSL Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 China telling the fat boy STFU https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/china-bans-north-korea-iron-lead-coal-imports-as-part-of-un-sanctions/2017/08/14/a0ce4cb0-80ca-11e7-82a4-920da1aeb507_story.html?utm_term=.23b0bfc3227e China bans North Korean iron, lead, coal imports more or less the 90% trading partner stops trading 3 Link to comment
240zness Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Why are the coal miners out of work? Obama 3 Link to comment
240zness Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Worldwide I think we do, China leading the pack with coal usage, more cars on the road, I don't think China or India smogs their vehicles. We are probably doing our part but not these countries. As their economy grows so does consumption goes up too. They'll need clean coal tech Link to comment
Mattndew76 Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 They'll need clean coal tech USA has been developing clean coal tech since the late 70's and has been the leader in new tech development as well. So selling coal and clean tech is a good plan. 26% of the worlds countries burn coal for energy. 3 Link to comment
125 CSL Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Charlottesville a few angles Getting in the nude gets the point across,.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kvN1QhgCZI As expected CNN goes full speed ahead to "white wash" antifa http://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/14/us/what-is-antifa-trnd/index.html?sr=twCNN081417what-is-antifa-trnd0624PMVODtop http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/346544-dreamhost-claims-doj-requesting-info-on-visitors-to-anti-trump-website Justice demands 1.3M IP addresses related to Trump resistance site https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/897272170329415680 BREAKING: Court Issues Search Warrant for Antifa Website 1 Link to comment
Ooph! Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Charlottesville a few angles Getting in the nude gets the point across,.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kvN1QhgCZI As expected CNN goes full speed ahead to "white wash" antifa http://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/14/us/what-is-antifa-trnd/index.html?sr=twCNN081417what-is-antifa-trnd0624PMVODtop http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/346544-dreamhost-claims-doj-requesting-info-on-visitors-to-anti-trump-websiteJustice demands 1.3M IP addresses related to Trump resistance site https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/897272170329415680 BREAKING: Court Issues Search Warrant for Antifa Website why can't the people that take their clothes off as a protest look like the women in Post-tit/asses I wont need to look at the sun during the eclipse to burn my retina's it already accomplished. And the anger they cant even see their own hate. 4 Link to comment
ratpatrol66 Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 She is straight out of National Geographic 3 Link to comment
angliagt Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 She is straight out of National Geographic As Potsy would say (Happy Days) - "Nude Pygmys!". Link to comment
paradime Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Who gives a shit about tit? All I saw was about $18,000 worth of Leicas hanging around that Rasta guy's neck. :w00t: Link to comment
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