paradime Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Funny 0bama left it better then when he took office. Because he was elected business panicked(rightly so) and dumped everything and went into safe mode. Which only got a little better before he left office. So the statement is true in a way, but if the man was never elected it would have been better for everyone. I get that you don't like Obama, but you're overlooking an ASS LOAD with consideration to what he inherited. I think Trump has had a positive influence on the economy, but he inherited 75th straight month of job growth. Obama took over during the worst financial crisis since the great depression. He left the country in better shape even though he's a Democrat.... What a fucking disaster right? Link to comment
racerx Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Its obvious that Trumpcheeto favors the right and Obummer favors the left. 1 Link to comment
Mattndew76 Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 I read that article, but didn't see anything about political differences or leftist extremism. Is there more to this story? Yes. I chose CBS. When you google and start to explore the deeper complexity. The feud becomes clear that it was over political support. Link to comment
Mattndew76 Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 I get that you don't like Obama, but you're overlooking an ASS LOAD with consideration to what he inherited. I think Trump has had a positive influence on the economy, but he inherited 75th straight month of job growth. Obama took over during the worst financial crisis since the great depression. He left the country in better shape even though he's a Democrat.... What a fucking disaster right? Please can we stop with the "Inherited." line of thinking. You do know he campaigned to take on the issues the country had? Neither Trump nor Obama supporters should push such a dumb crutch. I am applying for a position to do a job. This is a way to excuse failure. Not saying Obama failed either. 1 Link to comment
john510 Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 I gave this a "like" because of the meme.Should i be expecting a reply with name calling and a shitstorm rant of galactical proportions ? disclaimer,i DO NOT support violence from either side. 2 Link to comment
racerx Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Put it this way both the extreme left and alt right feel disenfranchised and feel that by hurting, destroying property or killing justifies their pent up frustration. That's what this is about, its about the extreme way of thinking and values that they feel righteous about, therefore, maming or killing is justifiable, which we know is just nuts. By believing in something or belonging to a group that supports and amplifies their warped thinking just makes it worse. If you look at their background, sad to say, but they live a hopeless and pathetic lives and by identifying with a group, left or right, gives them meaning and purpose, very similar to being in a gang, cult, terrorism, maybe some of you are too young but remember the symbonese liberation front or jim Jones or Scientology. People will believe what they think makes sense why their lives are fucked up. Lets blame the immigrants, the Jews, the media, corporations, Trump, Obama, the Clintons, not realizing that a lot of their demise is their own doing. Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Can we stop with the lies too?, The unemployment numbers are as fake as the stock market, they don't count people not looking for jobs and people on welfare are dismissed, sorry to break it to anyone using those numbers, it is a lie and it makes my blood boil every time the politicians use it to make their side look good, not too long ago I saw an article about it and in there was a true number and it was near 25%, closer to 30% when you included everyone taking in government assistance, of course I've been unable to find it anymore, how convenient that it vanished, both sides lie about the real unemployment numbers, pisses me off. Link to comment
Mattndew76 Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS12300000 U-6 Metric is much different than the U-3 metric used to politicize success. U-6 is much more comprehensive, whereas the U-3 only counts people who have looked for work through the employment agency within a 4 week span. After that the people don't get counted . http://www.macrotrends.net/1377/u6-unemployment-rate Link to comment
a.d._510_n_ok Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 I gave this a "like" because of the meme.Should i be expecting a reply with name calling and a shitstorm rant of galactical proportions ? disclaimer,i DO NOT support violence from either side. nothin' new under the sun, brother ;) Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 .gov That's enough for me to know not to trust the source. 1 Link to comment
john510 Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Can we stop with the lies too?, The unemployment numbers are as fake as the stock market, they don't count people not looking for jobs and people on welfare are dismissed, sorry to break it to anyone using those numbers, it is a lie and it makes my blood boil every time the politicians use it to make their side look good, not too long ago I saw an article about it and in there was a true number and it was near 25%, closer to 30% when you included everyone taking in government assistance, of course I've been unable to find it anymore, how convenient that it vanished, both sides lie about the real unemployment numbers, pisses me off. You really don't believe unemployment is at 25 to 30% do you ? come on man. Link to comment
racerx Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Numbers can be manipulated, like algebra, move the x variable to where y was, behold you got the numbers you want. Unemployment does not take into account the underemployed, meaning they are not working full time or if a person stop looking for a job and is not on edds database, lo and behold, you are not counted, remember x and y variables. 1 Link to comment
Mattndew76 Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Macrotrends.net has a better tracking metric. I think the highest the country got during Oblamer was 16-17% actual unemployment. 1 Link to comment
john510 Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Manipulate,fudge,cheat,whatever.Unemployment is not anywhere close to 30% Not like algebra at all.There is no manipulating in algebra. Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 You really don't believe unemployment is at 25 to 30% do you ? come on man. By the same token, you really don't believe unemployment is at 5 to 6% do you ? come on man. 1 Link to comment
john510 Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 By the same token, you really don't believe unemployment is at 5 to 6% do you ? come on man. Did i claim it was ? although that would probably be a lot closer.I don't know anybody that needs a job right now. Link to comment
Draker Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 If you can't find a job right now... you aren't trying hard enough. 2 Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 If you take the government titty off of the mouths of those that are healthy and send them to work, there wouldn't be enough jobs for them all. I know it's not 25% but it ain't 6% either. Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Did i claim it was ? although that would probably be a lot closer.I don't anybody that needs a job right now. Me either, they're happy with their welfare checks! Link to comment
john510 Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Did anybody get in on Trump's press conference ? He gave them an ass whipping and called them out on every question they asked.It was supposed to be about trade or something until somebody asked why Trump didn't have a perfect first response to the car incident.That opened the door for a good ass kicking. 2 Link to comment
racerx Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Numbers can be easily manipulated. Never heard of the mathematical term, "if it can be measured, it can be manipuated". Same with statistics, same with financial statements, corporations, government, they do it a lot. And of course, there's Barry Madoff, who made off with peoples money. Guess you never heard of Algebraic Statisctics? Here is another one, friend who used to work at Cisco and they always doctor their numbers to get the results they wanted. What about finance people, they will always paint a rosy outlook about the returns to justify their product so people will buy their product. 1 Link to comment
john510 Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 No i've never heard of the term "if it can be measured it can be manipulated" And those "algebraic statistics" aren't what you think they are. Link to comment
VFR800 Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-16/donald-trump-says-both-sides-to-blame-charlottesville-violence/8811298 "Donald Trump throws fuel on fire of Charlottesville race row in explosive media conference" United States President Donald Trump has said both sides were to blame in the clashes in Virginia over the weekend, adding that protesters on the political left violently attacked white nationalists rallying against a decision to remove a Confederate statue. Yeah,agree 100% with that statement as it takes two sides (at the least) for a conflict to exist or occur. Trump is telling all parties they are wrong and about damn time someone said that to people in these sort of situations. The top line about "throws fuel on fire" - what a lot of bullshit. 3 Link to comment
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