Ooph! Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 17 minutes ago, tr8er said: You did not misunderstand. My conjecture wasn't defended precisely by these links the people studied were from 45 to 53 median aged 49 1 Quote Link to comment
tr8er Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Ooph! said: That will be unknown for a long time until people have recovered, aged, studies performed and the numbers of inflammation related diseases are known. That's really the take away for me. There is not much information that can't be labeled as proven. Studies take time, and peer reviewed studies take more time. The pandemic playbook does not await studies for action. Assume the worst and adjust down from there. The US is basically going the other way. Assume the best and if we all get fucked, adjust from there. I don't need proof to take steps that might help and don't harm. It's obvious to me. Quote Link to comment
tr8er Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, Ooph! said: the people studied were from 45 to 53 median aged 49 That's why the percentages are double what I stated for youths. And those values are not the result of studies that I know of. So shoot the messenger if it helps you feel better but I'm trying to be straight with what I present. 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Ooph! said: the people studied were from 45 to 53 median aged 49 Might they not have had something befor co-vid? I'm saying were they examined before? This is over middle age I would expect some wear and tear. Quote Link to comment
Ooph! Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, datzenmike said: Might they not have had something befor co-vid? I'm saying were they examined before? This is over middle age I would expect some wear and tear. Of course they could have, that's where the studies will help as more is learned the complex is made simple 5 hours ago, tr8er said: That's why the percentages are double what I stated for youths. And those values are not the result of studies that I know of. So shoot the messenger if it helps you feel better but I'm trying to be straight with what I present. I see no reason to shoot Edited August 20, 2020 by Ooph! Quote Link to comment
Mattndew76 Posted August 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 8 hours ago, tr8er said: That's why the percentages are double what I stated for youths. And those values are not the result of studies that I know of. So shoot the messenger if it helps you feel better but I'm trying to be straight with what I present. I wont ever fault a man for putting in the effort. Quote Link to comment
john510 Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 Is it just me or has the media let up on the doom and gloom with Covid ? I'm noticing it's not the main focus of our news right now.I did notice the numbers seem to be getting better.Maybe the end of it is coming soon. 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 Yeah I hear from on high that it will just disappear all by itself. Course this is from an expert on not being an expert. 1 Quote Link to comment
tr8er Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 19 hours ago, datzenmike said: Might they not have had something befor co-vid? I'm saying were they examined before? This is over middle age I would expect some wear and tear. Yes, but they were charted in comparison to a control subject with similar preexisting conditions. The abstract details the effort to eliminate this bias. 1 Quote Link to comment
tr8er Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 1 hour ago, datzenmike said: Yeah I hear from on high that it will just disappear all by itself. Course this is from an expert on not being an expert. I do believe it will mutate into a basic cold eventually. It is how viral evolution goes. That being said, we’ve never watched a spread go this broad in the modern era of travel and hygiene. I expect another year or two of significant issues. 1 Quote Link to comment
Chopper Jim Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 Still main focus here. Nov.4th. Chopper Jim 2 Quote Link to comment
Ranman72 Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 3 hours ago, Chopper Jim said: Still main focus here. Nov.4th. Chopper Jim BINGO 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted August 23, 2020 Report Share Posted August 23, 2020 I just got this. Quote Link to comment
Soundline Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 Huh... looks like we’re all still alive. therefore, Covid is a hoax. 2 Quote Link to comment
Draker Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 A lab in New Jersey had returned dozens of false-positive results, including 12 for the Minnesota Vikings and 10 for the New York Jets. A total of 77 league employees returned positive tests; all came from the New Jersey lab. According to a source, all 77 individuals were retested using the original sample. All came back negative. Each of the 77 also took new point-of-care tests. All came back negative. 4 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 Just like 'fake news' has fucked up ALL news I don't believe/trust anything about co-vid reported by the government or news outlets in the US. Not saying it's all BS, (I'm sure some is, some isn't) I just stopped believing it's all true. 3 Quote Link to comment
Soundline Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 I only jump into these threads during US elections. The only news I trust is RNN. The Ratsun News Network. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment
BrothersGarage Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 7 hours ago, datzenmike said: Just like 'fake news' has fucked up ALL news I don't believe/trust anything about co-vid reported by the government or news outlets in the US. Not saying it's all BS, (I'm sure some is, some isn't) I just stopped believing it's all true. 5 Quote Link to comment
john510 Posted August 26, 2020 Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 On 8/24/2020 at 12:43 AM, Draker said: A lab in New Jersey had returned dozens of false-positive results, including 12 for the Minnesota Vikings and 10 for the New York Jets. A total of 77 league employees returned positive tests; all came from the New Jersey lab. According to a source, all 77 individuals were retested using the original sample. All came back negative. Each of the 77 also took new point-of-care tests. All came back negative. Kind of makes one wonder what the numbers really are including the deaths listed as Covid when they died from something else. 3 Quote Link to comment
Soundline Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 I actually know two people who have died from COVID. (May peace be upon them). it was a tough way to go for both of them. A husband and wife. They had a good run though, Cal was 96 and Erma was 94. They both had cancer and dementia, but COVID was the cause of death (COD) on their death certificates. I do know no autopsy was performed to establish exact COD for either. The county medical examiner said it was “too risky” to attempt to establish their exact COD, so he listed it as COVID. i dunno if they do this commonly in the county they both passed in, but I know that medical examiner well and he’s a fucking moron. 1 Quote Link to comment
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