gene knight Posted July 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 7 hours ago, Dguy210 said: So Americans should spend their tax dollars and their lives to keep Canadians and the rest of the world safe? Maybe the rest of the world should stand on its own feet and not expect the US to be the world police. Do you know why many countries have minimal military spending? Because the US has bases in those countries and spends American tax dollars to protect those countries. All the while those countries shit on the US. Now it is in most part enlightened self-interest as it serves to protect American power across the globe. If you really want to go do that path then maybe the US just says fuck it those countries that have minimal military that we protect are now American territory. Maybe Futurama was right then. "The United States has the largest known deposits of oil shale in the world, according to the Bureau of Land Management and holds an estimated 2.175 trillion barrels (345.8 km3) of potentially recoverable oil." Last estimate I heard was about >100yrs worth depending on extraction and processing technology. Saudia Arabia, Russia and the US are the top 3 exporters, SA is usually first but it varies from time to time. However, SA is on reasonably good terms with the US at this time because of their economic power. But even they are planning for the end of oil, you can see it in the build up of their infrastructure and trying to develop something other than oil and sand as national products. "Briefly, in June, the U.S. eclipsed Saudi Arabia in monthly oil exports (as a result of a spike in shale production) before ceding the top spot to the longtime leader. Currently, the U.S. places third after Saudi Arabia and Russia, in terms of annual oil exports by country. However, the U.S. is expected to take over the runner-up spot from Russia, placing second in a list of all exporters on an annual basis by 2024, according to forecasts from the International Energy Agency." I agree blowing up bad people at times is necessary. I disagree that most of the actions we are taking in the M.E. currently have anything to do with that though, it is protecting oil interests (banker interests) at this point and feeding the economic war machine. Very few people on the other side of the world are capable of doing much to hurt us, or do you forget 9/11 was carried out by Saudis mostly but we beat the shit out of Iraq and Afghanistan for it. This was all a power play to play tic-tac-toe for Iran. The reason Bolton had such a butthurt against Trump is he shut down the attack Iran plans. A country we have already fucked up once before. It is much more difficult for people in the M.E. to kill American soldiers if there aren't very many American soldiers in the M.E. Dguy210: as a partially disabled combat army veteran, i agree with you, i have been deployed to the M.E. 3 x and desert storm was never about liberation of kuwait, it was all about oil and the bush family had lots of shares/stock in the M.E. oil fields. I too, am tired of the U.S. being the world police, i say let every country take care of themselves /problems and lets fix what is going on in the U.S. there are hundreds if not thousands of homeless veterans on the streets not getting the proper medical help and committing suicide. 4 Quote Link to comment
Draker Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 (edited) https://babylonbee.com/news/cracker-jacks-changes-name-to-more-politically-correct-caucasian-jacks?utm_content=bufferff6c9&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer (yes I know it's a joke) Edited July 23, 2020 by Draker 3 Quote Link to comment
Mattndew76 Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 The Bee has been so accurate though 😉 2 Quote Link to comment
Str8jacket Posted July 25, 2020 Report Share Posted July 25, 2020 Cant wait for Australia to become such fair and equal socialist country.... sounds great. 2 1 Quote Link to comment
Mattndew76 Posted July 25, 2020 Report Share Posted July 25, 2020 "Conspiracy theory!!!' Great video. We are on the slippery slope, and the country just needs that push. 1 Quote Link to comment
Mattndew76 Posted July 25, 2020 Report Share Posted July 25, 2020 30 minutes ago, Str8jacket said: Cant wait for Australia to become such fair and equal socialist country.... sounds great. I don't know much about your constitution but I assume you don't have a god given right to defense... Your people have no equalizer. 2 Quote Link to comment
Jesse C. Posted July 25, 2020 Report Share Posted July 25, 2020 Oh, this is going to end up badly https://www.foxnews.com/us/black-armed-militia-planning-louisville-march-claims-its-not-f-ing-around 4 Quote Link to comment
Mattndew76 Posted July 25, 2020 Report Share Posted July 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Jesse C. said: Oh, this is going to end up badly https://www.foxnews.com/us/black-armed-militia-planning-louisville-march-claims-its-not-f-ing-around the premise of their quotes are sound. each week seems to be one detent on the heater knob. shits getting hot. 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted July 25, 2020 Report Share Posted July 25, 2020 Hope it isn't Nigel's heater. 1 Quote Link to comment
bastardo Posted July 25, 2020 Report Share Posted July 25, 2020 15 hours ago, a.d._510_n_ok said: Your copy and paste is a false equivalency, they aren't mutually exclusive. If someone isn't doing their job correctly doesn't mean the job is unnecessary, it means they're doing their job wrong. Quote Link to comment
Mattndew76 Posted July 25, 2020 Report Share Posted July 25, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, bastardo said: Your copy and paste is a false equivalency, they aren't mutually exclusive. If someone isn't doing their job correctly doesn't mean the job is unnecessary, it means they're doing their job wrong. So instead of reforming and eliminating the people who are bad....We just get rid of the whole institution? oh and BTW yes they do mean "Get rid of.", "Abolish", and "Do away with." the institution. Edited July 25, 2020 by Mattndew76 4 Quote Link to comment
Jesse C. Posted July 25, 2020 Report Share Posted July 25, 2020 ....and Let The Games Begin! https://www.foxnews.com/us/louisville-protests-breonna-taylor-armed-protester-accidentally-shoots-himself Quote Link to comment
Mattndew76 Posted July 25, 2020 Report Share Posted July 25, 2020 The amount of stupid in every group is so validating (NFAC). So who was the other militia that didn't do something stupid? 3 Quote Link to comment
tr8er Posted July 25, 2020 Report Share Posted July 25, 2020 40 minutes ago, Mattndew76 said: So instead of reforming and eliminating the people who are bad....We just get rid of the whole institution? oh and BTW yes they do mean "Get rid of.", "Abolish", and "Do away with." the institution. I’m guessing you know this, but the call out is not to abolish the police. It is to employ alternate modalities to the effort of a peaceful society. As we well know, drugs and poverty are drivers of crime. The movement to reduce police forces is really an effort to proactively reduce crime before it happens instead of the current strategy of penalizing after it happens. The former costing tax payers many many times more for incarceration and rehabilitation. The logic is sound, and we have a shit ton of examples of its effectiveness as well as how to do it. It’s just not the way of the USA. I’m not at all against having a police force. But I’d shove a prison shank up the ass of the police union if I could. That alone likely would fix this. Or would have prevented the state of the force currently. Bad cops never get fired. That’s the real issue. 2 Quote Link to comment
angliagt Posted July 25, 2020 Report Share Posted July 25, 2020 51 minutes ago, Jesse C. said: ....and Let The Games Begin! https://www.foxnews.com/us/louisville-protests-breonna-taylor-armed-protester-accidentally-shoots-himself Was he trained by that Professional Peace Officer (Barney Fife)? Quote Link to comment
Mattndew76 Posted July 25, 2020 Report Share Posted July 25, 2020 16 minutes ago, tr8er said: I’m guessing you know this, but the call out is not to abolish the police. It is to employ alternate modalities to the effort of a peaceful society. As we well know, drugs and poverty are drivers of crime. The movement to reduce police forces is really an effort to proactively reduce crime before it happens instead of the current strategy of penalizing after it happens. The former costing tax payers many many times more for incarceration and rehabilitation. The logic is sound, and we have a shit ton of examples of its effectiveness as well as how to do it. It’s just not the way of the USA. I’m not at all against having a police force. But I’d shove a prison shank up the ass of the police union if I could. That alone likely would fix this. Or would have prevented the state of the force currently. Bad cops never get fired. That’s the real issue. Although I do respect your assessment from your view, but the leaders of the Defund movement even came out in a NYT OP-ED that stated they want it "GONE" "Abolished".. No POLICE at all. I want unions terminated from civil service jobs or government positions period. Its like you said. The bad elements cannot be removed from the system with a corrupt union involved. Lets not lose sight of reality though. The USA and No country on this planet has any human population so physiologically advanced that police or any governing body be not needed. The only thing that has advance and reformed through generations is technology, and new acceptable social interaction. The core psychological function of humans has stayed the same through time. There will always be a human who wants to impose their will upon others. 1 Quote Link to comment
john510 Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 48 minutes ago, tr8er said: I’m guessing you know this, but the call out is not to abolish the police. It is to employ alternate modalities to the effort of a peaceful society. As we well know, drugs and poverty are drivers of crime. The movement to reduce police forces is really an effort to proactively reduce crime before it happens instead of the current strategy of penalizing after it happens. The former costing tax payers many many times more for incarceration and rehabilitation. The logic is sound, and we have a shit ton of examples of its effectiveness as well as how to do it. It’s just not the way of the USA. I’m not at all against having a police force. But I’d shove a prison shank up the ass of the police union if I could. That alone likely would fix this. Or would have prevented the state of the force currently. Bad cops never get fired. That’s the real issue. This is like saying that flies cause shit.Do you have any idea how many cops have been fired recently ? Careers ruined by accusations ? Drug addicts and criminals are given every opportunity possible to rehabilitate when incarcerated.When they fail it's on them.Individual responsibility.The police don't cause crime and drug abuse. 2 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 Not nearly enough. An accusation is only that. If your career was ruined over an accusation you were probably like a criminal.... guilty of something and everyone knows it. The public perception is that bad cops get away with it. One or two bad ones make a hundred look bad. Don't they have psychological screening to weed them out before they hit the street? 1 Quote Link to comment
a.d._510_n_ok Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Mattndew76 said: So instead of reforming and eliminating the people who are bad....We just get rid of the whole institution? oh and BTW yes they do mean "Get rid of.", "Abolish", and "Do away with." the institution. yup. America was founded by slave-owners. Therefore it is evil. Never mind that people risk their lives to come here to scrub our toilets for $3 an hour because even in the farthest reaches of the globe people know they can come here with nothing and build a fortune. Nope. The American system, founded by great minds, must be abolished and replaced by some form of leftist tyranny dreamed up by people who hate racism so much that they banished the two most beloved iconic black faces to ever be seen on the grocery shelves. Edited July 26, 2020 by a.d._510_n_ok 1 Quote Link to comment
Mattndew76 Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, datzenmike said: Not nearly enough. An accusation is only that. If your career was ruined over an accusation you were probably like a criminal.... guilty of something and everyone knows it. The public perception is that bad cops get away with it. One or two bad ones make a hundred look bad. Don't they have psychological screening to weed them out before they hit the street? If it was actually about reform. Then we could have the discussion of what should be reformed like evaluations, but there isnt any discussion about that. From the media down to the leaders of the defund riots not a single person has anything to say other than "tear it all down." Even Uncle Joe Kid Diddler is pandering to this lunacy. There needs to be reform and steps taken to help both sides of this equation. Jocko Willink had some great ideas on how to curb the police side, and citizen side. Edited July 26, 2020 by Mattndew76 Quote Link to comment
thisismatt Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 If the rioters are just a few bad apples in an otherwise peaceful group of protestors... why are all police damned for a few bad apples in an otherwise upstanding group? 5 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 Because protected by the group. Us... against them mentality. Do protesters hold and turn in bad apples? Quote Link to comment
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