destruction of america

[Dguy210]

12 minutes ago, datzenmike said:

 

Posted a whole book. What was it? like 5 pages?

 

Might have been more, a few of the pages were likely stuck together...

[Skib]

On 10/15/2022 at 2:21 AM, Str8jacket said:

Or it is intentionally destroyed by your leaders for a cause we aren't a part of. (In that case most of the western world is in lock step any way so we are all fucked... like the rabbit) 

 

 

Some countries portray Americans as being loons for being so hard lined on gun laws.

There's a reason we wont be surrendering any arms, to any man or government. For any reason.

 

What those countries fail to understand is we come from armed revolt of over reaching power.

and the country was set up to give the people the means and right to return to that whenever necessary.

 

Part of why many of those in power are all for far leftists teaching kids to hate America and embrace socialism.

They cant get rid of our rights... but they don't matter much if you teach a generation to love totalitarianism and obedience.  

[angliagt]

14 hours ago, Dguy210 said:

 

Might have been more, a few of the pages were likely stuck together...

 

 

     With mayonnaise?

[angliagt]

14 hours ago, Skib said:

 

Some countries portray Americans as being loons for being so hard lined on gun laws.

There's a reason we wont be surrendering any arms, to any man or government. For any reason.

 

What those countries fail to understand is we come from armed revolt of over reaching power.

and the country was set up to give the people the means and right to return to that whenever necessary.

 

Part of why many of those in power are all for far leftists teaching kids to hate America and embrace socialism.

They cant get rid of our rights... but they don't matter much if you teach a generation to love totalitarianism and obedience.  

             I don't get just why they hate this country so much.Most of their ideas/programs

only seem to make things worse,the cost of living & crime go up.

          I wish they could go live in one of the countries that is run by the type of government

they say they want us to change into. 

[angliagt]

                         Now I see that California wants to push digital license plates -

(to go on your Government mandated electric car?).California Digital License Plates

[Thomas Perkins]

Just vote Trump in 2024 and he will get California straighten back out.Or build a wall around it,that sounds better...

[jbirds510]

1 hour ago, angliagt said:

                         Now I see that California wants to push digital license plates -

(to go on your Government mandated electric car?).California Digital License Plates

https://www.npr.org/2022/10/15/1129305660/digital-license-plates-california

 

    

"The plates' tracking capabilities have raised privacy concerns

The company's so-called RPlate can be equipped with GPS and allows users, including employers, to track a vehicle's location and mileage."

 

READ a new way to charge a tax per verifiable mile. They say they dont report to dmv but they dont mention for how long.  

 

"Reviver offers a battery-powered version of the RPlate that costs $19.95 per month as well as a hard-wired option for commercial vehicles priced at $24.95 per month."

Edited October 17, 2022 by jbirds510

[Skib]

I live in CA... and I always joke that the only thing CA isn't taxing me for is breathing...

 

... and thats because they have haven't worked how out yet....

 

 

 

but don't worry... they are working on it....

[Ooph!]

11 hours ago, angliagt said:

             I don't get just why they hate this country so much.Most of their ideas/programs

only seem to make things worse,the cost of living & crime go up.

          I wish they could go live in one of the countries that is run by the type of government

they say they want us to change into. 

They will always claim it wasn't done correctly or that it wasn't real socialism or communism. This time it will be better. 

[angliagt]

            "THIS JUST IN" -

 

 

           Biden to endorse V8 as the "OFFICIAL VEGETABLE JUICE" (of something).

Edited October 25, 2022 by angliagt

[datzenmike]

He's one of the vegetables....

[angliagt]

 EXACTLY! - Vegetable juice for a vegetable.

[angliagt]

        I just read where the Government wants to spend $2.5 BILLION

to build charging stations for electric cars.Spending even more money

that we don't have to support their idea.

          Let the market decide. 

        

[Cardinal Grammeter]

2.5 e9 is chump change these days.  I'd like to know what is going on in the meetings power companies are having regarding the inevitable jump in EV demand on their already overtaxed power  and distribution networks.  

 

 

 

To "push" power to distant endpoints of the network, all they can do is up the voltage, it used to be 110v, then 115, 117, 120, and now 125.  "110v" already exceeds the safe operation of old electrical devices and "just increase the voltage" is not a sustainable solution.

 

Solution:  modernization of the power network replacing transformers with power supplies that will regulate voltage to some minimum (120, 115, 110?!!) allowing more power for the endpoints.  You would start replacing them where the voltage is the highest and then work your way down.

NEWS BULLETIN:  Transformer Shortages:  (I'm not kidding)  Large transformers in substations and industrial sites can take months to replace.  This can be a disaster if there is a critical need.  So there is now a Strategic Transformer concept.  Check it out - it's all over the internet.

[angliagt]

     It'll also be interesting to see how many more vehicle fires occur.

I don't think I'd trust parking one in my garage. 

[angliagt]

                                       YOUR GOVERNMENT DOLLARS AT WORK

     

                       Here in Virginia,you pay a property tax on vehicles & trailers.

I had my car trailer stored in another county,about 30 miles from here.I sold

it earlier this year.Today I got a tax bill for it from that county (Bedford County),

for $1.06,along with a return envelope.The address that you send it to is in

Charlotte,North Carolina,which means that they're paying a third party to

collect it.Now if I pay by check,they have to also process my check - another expense.

       I wonder what the total cost would be for them if I did that?

[paradime]

5 hours ago, Cardinal Grammeter said:

2.5 e9 is chump change these days.  I'd like to know what is going on in the meetings power companies are having regarding the inevitable jump in EV demand on their already overtaxed power  and distribution networks.  

 

 

 

To "push" power to distant endpoints of the network, all they can do is up the voltage, it used to be 110v, then 115, 117, 120, and now 125.  "110v" already exceeds the safe operation of old electrical devices and "just increase the voltage" is not a sustainable solution.

 

Solution:  modernization of the power network replacing transformers with power supplies that will regulate voltage to some minimum (120, 115, 110?!!) allowing more power for the endpoints.  You would start replacing them where the voltage is the highest and then work your way down.

NEWS BULLETIN:  Transformer Shortages:  (I'm not kidding)  Large transformers in substations and industrial sites can take months to replace.  This can be a disaster if there is a critical need.  So there is now a Strategic Transformer concept.  Check it out - it's all over the internet.

At the consumer level, residential solar panels is a potential short term solution while our power grid transitions tomore EVs coming online.

 

Since the shortage started, the price of end point transformer has got up 12,500%. Being that most electricity is delivered by public utilities, the public is paying for those solid gold collectable transformers. If history sheds any light on this, when it comes to energy sales and distribution, disinformation is the standard in that Big Money game. While the auto industry transitions, you can trust the sky is falling BS is going to fly in all direction along the electrical supply chain.

 

 End use voltage has nothing to do with efficiency or transformer longevity. 

*110 volts was chosen by Edison so his light bulbs wouldn't burn out quickly.

*By the 1930’s, due to greater demand from household AC motors, voltage was increased to 115 volts.

*In 1984, NEC changed the standard voltage used for load calculations to 120 volts. 

*Today all utilities are required to supply 120v that doesn’t vary by more than 5% so  between 114 and 126 volts.

 

So the real question is who's profiting from this crisis? If bending perception can be converted into money, profiteers will turn truth into a F'n pretzel to funnel more $ their way. 

 

Our power grid is robust and highly modular. Transmission lines use high voltage low current electricity, typically up to 500kV @ 60Hz 3 phase AC, because with higher voltage less power is lost over great distances. It's carried via fat bundle conductors from generation source to out output point. Large substation transformers reduce the voltage for towns (typically 50 to 132 kV) then further stepped down (3 to 25 kV) where distribution lines carry power to primary customers (manufacturing, electric rail, etc) and then through neighborhoods to residential secondary customers. Do you think it's a coincidence that the "crisis transformers" in question just happen to supply uninformed 120V secondary consumers? High volume industrial consumers get their electricity at a cheaper rate. Maybe it's because their's doesn't require the stage of transformation we're being gouged for? 

[Cardinal Grammeter]

3 minutes ago, angliagt said:

                                       YOUR GOVERNMENT DOLLARS AT WORK

     

                       Here in Virginia,you pay a property tax on vehicles & trailers.

I had my car trailer stored in another county,about 30 miles from here.I sold

it earlier this year.Today I got a tax bill for it from that county (Bedford County),

for $1.06,along with a return envelope.The address that you send it to is in

Charlotte,North Carolina,which means that they're paying a third party to

collect it.Now if I pay by check,they have to also process my check - another expense.

       I wonder what the total cost would be for them if I did that?

 

Not that many years ago, if an out of state vehicle and owner got a speeding ticket in Virginia, it was like $200.  But if you were a resident, it was something like $800.  

The "reasoning" was to make residents better citizens thru punishment.

I discussed this with a lady manning one of the Welcome Stations on the Interstate.

It appears they quit that, perhaps shortly after they enacted it.  I don't know for sure.  But it was a real thing and many people from Virginia didn't even know it happened.

Virginia has a rather onerous honor, they were the state that had the shortest window to appeal a capital conviction.  Anytime after that one has no right to an appeal and a plea must be made to convince the DA or AG to reopen the case.  I remember that time being in the 20's of days, maybe 22.  AND radar detectors are illegal.  So much for liberty loving of one of the original colonies.

Another unusual thing is that Oklahoma has TWO Supreme Courts:  Civil and Criminal.  There was a famous case where a man with an extremely low IQ (60 maybe) was sentenced to death by the criminal SC while the civil SC claim he was innocent.  (Or something like that - the courts had opposing views.  The man was executed and there was a lot of publicity over that.

 

Can't make this stuff up.

[Cardinal Grammeter]

17 minutes ago, paradime said:

At the consumer level, residential solar panels is a potential short term solution while our power grid transitions tomore EVs coming online.

 

Since the shortage started, the price of end point transformer has got up 12,500%. Being that most electricity is delivered by public utilities, the public is paying for those solid gold collectable transformers. If history sheds any light on this, when it comes to energy sales and distribution, disinformation is the standard in that Big Money game. While the auto industry transitions, you can trust the sky is falling BS is going to fly in all direction along the electrical supply chain.

 

 End use voltage has nothing to do with efficiency or transformer longevity. 

*110 volts was chosen by Edison so his light bulbs wouldn't burn out quickly.

*By the 1930’s, due to greater demand from household AC motors, voltage was increased to 115 volts.

*In 1984, NEC changed the standard voltage used for load calculations to 120 volts. 

*Today all utilities are required to supply 120v that doesn’t vary by more than 5% so  between 114 and 126 volts.

 

So the real question is who's profiting from this crisis? If bending perception can be converted into money, profiteers will turn truth into a F'n pretzel to funnel more $ their way. 

 

Our power grid is robust and highly modular. Transmission lines use high voltage low current electricity, typically up to 500kV @ 60Hz 3 phase AC, because with higher voltage less power is lost over great distances. It's carried via fat bundle conductors from generation source to out output point. Large substation transformers reduce the voltage for towns (typically 50 to 132 kV) then further stepped down (3 to 25 kV) where distribution lines carry power to primary customers (manufacturing, electric rail, etc) and then through neighborhoods to residential secondary customers. Do you think it's a coincidence that the "crisis transformers" in question just happen to supply uninformed 120V secondary consumers? High volume industrial consumers get their electricity at a cheaper rate. Maybe it's because their's doesn't require the stage of transformation we're being gouged for? 

 

Grid is not robust in CA:  During heatwaves CA has been having rolling brownouts for many years and recently asked for limited charging of EV's.  And it's expected to get hotter in the coming years.  Has anyone done the numbers on AC load increases due to hotter weather since AC load is what taxes the networks?  Grid will have to power the AC in EV too.  

The Solar Panel will help a little, but the majority of charging is after work when sun is low and much overnight when sun is down.  And the mandate for EV's does not apply to installing solar panels.  There isn't a strong correlation between EV users and Solar Panel users.  Will Solar Panel Users keep up with EV Users?  I say No since these are two different cultures.  

[Skib]

1 hour ago, Cardinal Grammeter said:

 

 

 

Can't make this stuff up.

 

 

the government is not your friend. 

[Dguy210]

54 minutes ago, Skib said:

 

 

the government is not your friend. 

 

How do you fuck? Like the Government.

 

Because when you need to spend way too much money and still fuck it up, call the government.

 

[Logical1]

2 hours ago, paradime said:

Our power grid is robust and highly modular.

 

NOPE, I am a master electrician and albeit not a lineman but our power grid is OLD and fragile at best. Putting things in perspective here is the liberal icon of America laying out the reality of the power grid, Funny how he doesn't mention the absurd draw that EV charging takes on the system while people are FREEZING to death.

 

 

[datzenmike]

Anyone that has used a 15 amp 120v power tool knows that it would never move a car, well properly geared it might move a car, barely on the flat. So not hard to imagine the the immense power needed to hum one along at highway speeds and up hills for 200 miles. I seems that all you do is plug them in for a few hours and away you go but the amount of power taken out of the grid and stored in their batteries is staggering. 

[datzenmike]

23 minutes ago, Dguy210 said:

 

How do you fuck?  

 

 

Like I play pool.... everything goes in but the balls

[Dguy210]

51 minutes ago, Logical1 said:

 

NOPE, I am a master electrician and albeit not a lineman but our power grid is OLD and fragile at best. Putting things in perspective here is the liberal icon of America laying out the reality of the power grid, Funny how he doesn't mention the absurd draw that EV charging takes on the system while people are FREEZING to death.

37 minutes ago, datzenmike said:

Anyone that has used a 15 amp 120v power tool knows that it would never move a car, well properly geared it might move a car, barely on the flat. So not hard to imagine the the immense power needed to hum one along at highway speeds and up hills for 200 miles. I seems that all you do is plug them in for a few hours and away you go but the amount of power taken out of the grid and stored in their batteries is staggering. 

 

 

Yep, I live not in a city and our power grid out here even though much of it is hydro is fucked as soon as the weather turns to shit. Even during the best of times it is not super reliable and we run UPS and surge protectors on everything. 

 

One big storm and you are without power for like 2 weeks (2021 was like this). We were ok as we have other sources for heat (wood burning stove) but our Leaf was absolutely fucked and does not charge off the generator (unless inverter style). It did make a pretty decent large battery to run an inverter off of though. 

 

Mike is right too, it is 12 hours at 110v to recharge for about 40 miles, 220v takes that down to 4hrs or so but is less good for the batteries long term.  For a commute car with a defined trip within the range the EV is cheaper than ICE and the maintenance is minimal too. Also, good for short shopping trips or running out local. But it is definitely not a replacement for a regular car for anything longer than that. It has a niche but EVs are at best a good second car and realistically while I crunched the numbers on gas prices and miles even used it barely broke even pricewise with a traditional car except for convenience sake.