Dav Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 New survey - silencers are available for sale in Alabama. Is that a thing in other states? 1 Quote Link to comment
jbirds510 Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, Dav said: New survey - silencers are available for sale in Alabama. Is that a thing in other states? Yes, every state ive lived in besides Ca. its an application and tax stamp $200. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Dav said: New survey - silencers are available for sale in Alabama. Is that a thing in other states? It's a suppressor. Just like mag not a clip. 1 Quote Link to comment
mrbigtanker Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 22 hours ago, Dav said: New survey - silencers are available for sale in Alabama. Is that a thing in other states? Yes Arizona and Nevada as well to name a few however you need to fill out some forms pay for the tax stamp and wait like 30 plus days before you can pick up. 1 Quote Link to comment
jbirds510 Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 18 hours ago, mrbigtanker said: Yes Arizona and Nevada as well to name a few however you need to fill out some forms pay for the tax stamp and wait like 30 plus days before you can pick up. Or, Id and Utah also 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 ... and he is. Blaming the gun. Two douches on trial... https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/state-rests-case-at-smollett-trial-1.6272171 https://www.npr.org/2021/12/03/1061329888/the-trial-of-ghislaine-maxwell-what-happened-this-week 1 1 Quote Link to comment
john510 Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 Watch Smollett walk.He's gay and Black,i have a feeling at least one juror can't convict him because of it.One dumb SOB,who hires two Black guys to stage a racial attack ? 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 Cringe worthy for sure but only fucked up his own life. Maxwell is far worse. Quote Link to comment
flyerdan Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 Let's talk about the gun claim that Alec made on his Contaminate The Jury Pool special the other night.... While I of course abhor his politics and Trump depictions on SNL, I'm unwilling to discount his statement on the gun firing without his pulling the trigger, unlike Breitbart, Bo Duke, and a lot of other commenters. On a SA revolver, especially an old one like this, there likely isn't a half-cock position that keeps the firing pin off a live round in the hole, so a blow to the hammer on an uncocked gun could result in a fire, that's why they often carried them with only five in the wheel, resting on the empty chamber. Since the principle of operation is spring action force of the hammer, the trigger just holds that potential energy until it's released; it would be reasonable to assume that pulling the hammer back until it's almost in the cock pawl, then releasing it could cause a discharge. That could easily be proved/disproved by a gunsmith taking the grips off and looking at the guts. One of the bigger issues, and prime reason for the show, is how in the hell a live round made it into the filming environment. It was reported that during non-filming hours cast and crew would use the set weapons for target practice/plinking. This is, of course, extremely bad practice, but if one was going to do this a policy of having the guns come out of the prop trailer completely empty, and having the live ammo come from the users trailer/vehicle, and having the gun returned to the prop trailer completely empty and all live ammo and spent casings returned to users area would eliminate cross contamination. A lot of this stupid simple shit wouldn't happen if people actually engaged their brain, rather than just using it as a spongiform mass to keep their head from collapsing when they jammed a ball cap on it backwards. 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 It assumes a lot that the hammer received a blow to set it off. While possible, it's the least likely. If there were live rounds on set, if the crew were taking practice shots on brakes, if the (less than competent) armorer wasn't in proper charge of the weapons, if Alex was handling the gun (apparently in a scene where it wasn't even needed) it shows a climate of total disregard for safety. So it's more likely Alex had the hammer cocked and a finger inside the guard on the trigger. Noob 101 and 'nuff said. Guns don't go off by themselves. I feel slightly sorry for the guy but his actions led to someone's loss of life. There's lots of blame here. He should own up to this. BTW I liked the SNL skits of Trump. They were funny and well done. Alex's politics have nothing to do with that but fuck his politics anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment
thisismatt Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 You just know that if Alec was swapped with any conservative/Trump, Alec would be at their throats with calls for murder charges. Alec is a self-righteous, hypocritical prick. 4 Quote Link to comment
Duncan Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 38 minutes ago, thisismatt said: Alec is a self-righteous, hypocritical prick. And that's on a good day.... 1 Quote Link to comment
Duncan Posted December 5, 2021 Report Share Posted December 5, 2021 Wow, I just read this article about Demi Lovato. I think she's really a great singer, but she's as loony as they come. She's now refers to herself as non-binary, and her preferred pronouns are them / they. I read this article only because I was curious who else they were talking about. First time I have ever seen this "them / they" applied in print. I honestly thought the article was referring to multiple people. I guess I'm sleeping 'cause I sure ain't "woke". https://www.yahoo.com/news/demi-lovato-said-sober-sober-205940465.html Quote Link to comment
Ooph! Posted December 5, 2021 Report Share Posted December 5, 2021 I watched Tucker Carlson and he went over his Contaminate The Jury Pool special. In it he clearly states that he had the hammer pulled back and let it go and it fired. and when he said it I thought, well Duh! Quote Link to comment
jbirds510 Posted December 5, 2021 Report Share Posted December 5, 2021 (edited) Hell get punished less than someone who shoots a burglar in Ca..you can get a real hitch for that one. at best hell get 5 years unsupervised probation, 25hrs community service where hell do ZERO service, and hell pay out like 30 million in restitution. On to the next weak link too lame to be accountable story and that will be that. He can afford all of it.. Fuck that guy..none it will bring the woman back.. Im just waiting to see if he shows up on the jizzlene maxwell list. would anyone be surprised? or care? Edited December 5, 2021 by jbirds510 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted December 5, 2021 Report Share Posted December 5, 2021 3 hours ago, Ooph! said: I watched Tucker Carlson and he went over his Contaminate The Jury Pool special. In it he clearly states that he had the hammer pulled back and let it go and it fired. and when he said it I thought, well Duh! If the hammer is al the way back only the trigger releases it. If pulled back anything less and released it is halted by a safety stop. The safety stop can also be set to prevent the striking of the hammer setting off the cartridge. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted December 5, 2021 Report Share Posted December 5, 2021 1 hour ago, jbirds510 said: Hell get punished less than someone who shoots a burglar in Ca..you can get a real hitch for that one. at best hell get 5 years unsupervised probation, 25hrs community service where hell do ZERO service, and hell pay out like 30 million in restitution. On to the next weak link too lame to be accountable story and that will be that. He can afford all of it.. Fuck that guy..none it will bring the woman back.. Im just waiting to see if he shows up on the jizzlene maxwell list. would anyone be surprised? or care? I think one way or another he will be crucified by public opinion. No one will want to see a douchebag like him on TV or screen. So his career is on the decline if not already fucked. Maxwell isn't going to name any names unless it lessens her time. No one is going to pressure and risk even worse pressure from above on their heads. I'd love to see Andrew in court. Juicy shit. Or Bill and. (u no) Quote Link to comment
Ooph! Posted December 5, 2021 Report Share Posted December 5, 2021 53 minutes ago, datzenmike said: If the hammer is al the way back only the trigger releases it. If pulled back anything less and released it is halted by a safety stop. The safety stop can also be set to prevent the striking of the hammer setting off the cartridge. The weapon involved if it is period correct for 1880 might be a Colt .45 manufactured from 1873 to 1892 Quote from the article posted below "Before 1900 most revolvers allowed the firing pin to rest on a cartridge’s primer. That’s why so many old-timers knew to leave an empty chamber under the hammer." https://www.shootingtimes.com/editorial/revolver-safeties-you-didnt-know-you-had/357707 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted December 5, 2021 Report Share Posted December 5, 2021 The one I saw, had a click about 1/8" pull back on the hammer. This lifted the hammer just off contact with the cartridge to prevent such misfiring. Not saying they all had this. What did Alex say? Did he say he 'bumped it"? I think he said it just went off. Which requires the hammer to be pulled back and the trigger pulled to release it. I'm guessing that Colt designed the hammer to be pulled back fully in order to strike the cartridge hard enough to fire it. I'm only guessing that half cocked generally wasn't enough to guarantee this and the first (safety) click even less likely if released by the trigger. I would not try it though. I can see this being discussed to death in the next few years. One thing's for sure, it didn't go off by itself. It was totally preventable. Heads should roll for this. Quote Link to comment
john510 Posted December 5, 2021 Report Share Posted December 5, 2021 10 hours ago, Jesse C. said: No kidding.Commercials have become so unreal and so fake nowadays. Quote Link to comment
thisismatt Posted December 5, 2021 Report Share Posted December 5, 2021 25 minutes ago, john510 said: No kidding.Commercials have become so unreal and so fake nowadays. That's not what my lgbqt+ African American identifying trans gerbil says. 3 2 Quote Link to comment
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