paradime Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Prove it. Simple as that, how is he promoting violence? That is a serious charge, or is it just an observation on your part. I am not white, I know what a NAZI is and I know what a fascist and a socialists are as well. Yet, I am the base for Trump. How is he inciting me to go do violence? And no, I do not own a Challenger This is what I've observed. Link to comment
paradime Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUuHDOq58XU Link to comment
q-tip Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 And the difference is?? I got it, the guys in the middle don't have flags, maybe that's why they're so angry. 3 Link to comment
tr8er Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Everyone was to blame. This Mike, I agree with. And as president, he should speak this truth. BUT. Holy fuck did you watch his comments yet? Seriously. A1. Shake the hands of Veterans. A2. Express Disgust to the situation without taking sides. B. Talk about how wonderful our country is doing, emphasizing employment and attrition. Imply that our country is wounded and frail and in need of recovery. C. Relate the pat on the back to the current crisis cementing the positive association with the event. D. Commend the government agencies that working on site. E. Make a comment about how we should all just get along. F. Cement the idea that things have changed, and they wont go back to the way they were. Get used to it, and embrace the change. Did you see his comment where he hung on the word "Equal", but chose "Americans" first instead. Wow. KO, you are right about me in that way. Trump does not get my balanced review. I go in polarized at this point. Not proud nor embarrassed of that, but it is, and you are right. Link to comment
john510 Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Please get it right... WW2 was fought against Nazi Germany. If they had won you wouldn't have your rights. Japan joined in later. Carried to a conclusion, the Nazis would have attacked Japan sooner or later and thrown them into gas chambers too. What ? obviously we fought Nazi germany but you need to brush up on WW2 history and how we got involved. 1 Link to comment
125 CSL Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 I do not recall so much as a peep out of Para when 0bama was actually inciting riots, all but outright asking people to kill police. 3 Link to comment
racerx Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 We need to invade Venezuela for Human rights violations and that will solve our hate, violence and indifference at home. 1 Link to comment
VFR800 Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Please get it right... WW2 was fought against Nazi Germany. If they had won you wouldn't have your rights. Japan joined in later. Carried to a conclusion, the Nazis would have attacked Japan sooner or later and thrown them into gas chambers too. MEGA FAIL Mike. December 7th 1941 Pearl Harbour was the trigger to bring USA into WW II. The Nazi's were allies with Japan before the Nazi's started WW II,they were in an alliance from before that with Germany as part of the Axis Powers. USA and the rest of the allied nations fought in the pacific against the Japanese in MAJOR conflicts equal to the scope of the European theatre of War. 3 Link to comment
a.d._510_n_ok Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Oh wow. I don't know how to begin to tell you what Trump supporters would have to say about Rove. Rove is a neocon kingmaker who, like Hillary, is still trying to get mileage out of a dog-eared playbook stuffed with spells that ceased to work immediately after the average joe discovered Google. Rove even recommended Trump give up twitter after he won the election. 1 Link to comment
datzenmike Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 This is what I've observed. ... and he wasn't president then, and at the time was believing to be only 3% chance of being one, so say what ya need to say. What politician hasn't said things before being elected that were not lived up to? Yes, I agree he said those things. No I don't think he has said the same things since... well not about white supremacists should kick the shit out of antifa. The opposite actually. . People like Rove will never be happy with anything that Trump says. He said both sides were at fault. Just how fine a point do you need on it? 2 Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 I find it amusing that the "open minded" crowd is so closed minded. Hypocrisy much? 3 Link to comment
thisismatt Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 I am disturbed with the lack of empathy for the fact that Americans are doing this to each other not some impoverished 3rd world military state. These people don't represent "Americans" very well, and as such do not receive my empathy. People that work hard to support themselves and their families through righteous means and are then maligned, oppressed, or otherwise impaired by an unjust outside force have my empathy. Most of the people in these marches are a drain on society. 3 Link to comment
paradime Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 ... and he wasn't president then, and at the time was believing to be only 3% chance of being one, so say what ya need to say. What politician hasn't said things before being elected that were not lived up to? Yes, I agree he said those things. No I don't think he has said the same things since... well not about white supremacists should kick the shit out of antifa. The opposite actually. . People like Rove will never be happy with anything that Trump says. He said both sides were at fault. Just how fine a point do you need on it? The second vid is President Trump addressing Long Island cops. Rove is only one of a long list of republicans who thought Trump's statement was a disappointing missed opportunity. Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 The second vid is President Trump addressing Long Island cops. Rove is only one of a long list of establishment hacks who thought Trump's statement was a disappointing missed opportunity. Fixed it, now IT MAKES SENSE. 2 Link to comment
Draker Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 I wonder why the police were ordeed to stand down during that rally. Maybe that had a little something to do with the escalation of violence. Naw I doubt it. 1 Link to comment
a.d._510_n_ok Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 I wonder why the police were ordeed to stand down during that rally. Maybe that had a little something to do with the escalation of violence. Naw I doubt it. like the fucking Weimar republic - left and right battling in the streets with local "leaders" telling the cops to stand down if the side they support can make some political points. 2 Link to comment
datzenmike Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 I wonder why the police were ordeed to stand down during that rally. Maybe that had a little something to do with the escalation of violence. Naw I doubt it. I don't know if it was, or not. Tough call. Sometimes sending in the popo just escalates things. Cops get hurt, shit hits the fan, cops beat up or taze someone while being videoed, it goes viral...... Maybe they just hopped that cancelling it, things would just blow over. Link to comment
racerx Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Saw several videos of car ramming and running over people, clearly this guy has some road rage issues, along those lines, seeing KKK, Nazi, people chanting Heil Trump, white supremacist cross branding, no matter if they don't have swastikas, they are all the same. Really sad, really sad! 1 Link to comment
paradime Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 I find it amusing that the "open minded" crowd is so closed minded about right wing fascists and leftist anarchists killing each other on the streets of AMERICA. Obvious much? Fixed it, now IT MAKES SENSE. So if someone disagrees with Trump it means they're an establishment hack? Holy shit KO, you're Trump's Monica Lewinski. 2 Link to comment
paradime Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 I do not recall so much as a peep out of Para when 0bama was actually inciting riots, all but outright asking people to kill police. Please refresh my memory, what rhetoric or specific speak are you referring to? Link to comment
125 CSL Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Memory problems Para? Not sure if I feel like dealing with your issues. Perhaps later. 1 Link to comment
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