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15 hours ago, bottomwatcher said:

I just want to know who Trump is running against after Biden has his "medical incident"?  The one that happens immediately after Trump wins the nomination.

Yes that will be interesting to see. Will they choose a radical leftist like Biden turned out to be to my surprise. Or try somebody not so wacked out about immigration and climate change ? If they stick with radical I think they lose. Or they choose radical and campaign on a somewhat centered agenda then stab us all in the back like Biden did.

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14 minutes ago, datzenmike said:

I think you give Biden too much credit/blame. The party or something figures out this crap and he just does what he's told.

That could be true but he could also tell his handlers no we're not doing that. After all he is the President. If you see how Biden was 30 years ago compared to now he's turned a very different direction. When he was elected I figured I'd give him the benefit of the doubt and didn't have any idea how far he'd go with his policies. Boy was I wrong.

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First order thinking is a subjective simple one vs the other decision process without considering their potential and some times obvious implications. This is the reductive perspective of political propaganda. 

 

Second order thinking 'aka critical thinking' is an objective analytical process of tracing the impacts of first order decisions on a continuum. It separates fiction from fact, and views success as a measurement of actual value vs relying on a false perception of value. Once upon a time, objectivity with the standard for news journalism. Now, if you want to know what's going on, you have to do that work for your self. It's much easier to choose a side and let them do the thinking for you. That's why sheeple accept two piles of steaming shit as a reasonable choice for POTUS and regurgitate propaganda as fact. 

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I would post more to destruction, but my thoughts haven't changed. The boarders were opened, which bought the election. Millions of new blue votes in a contest that formerly was a difference of thousands. I am waiting for the Democrats to concede issues like official ID required to vote or other Republican anti voter fraud demands, because Democrats know they have the numbers on their side. It is no matter who the Republicans chose to represent, I will vote for an eggplant over a Democrat.

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2 hours ago, paradime said:

First order thinking is a subjective simple one vs the other decision process without considering their potential and some times obvious implications. This is the reductive perspective of political propaganda. 

 

Second order thinking 'aka critical thinking' is an objective analytical process of tracing the impacts of first order decisions on a continuum. It separates fiction from fact, and views success as a measurement of actual value vs replying on a propagandized perception of value. Once upon a time, objectivity with the standard for news journalism. Now, if you want to know what's going on, you have to do that work for your self. It's much easier to choose a side and let them do the thinking for you. That's why sheeple accept JB or DT as a reasonable choice and regurgitate their propaganda as fact. 

 

 

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9 hours ago, datzenmike said:

I think you give Biden too much credit/blame. The party or something figures out this crap and he just does what he's told.

 

          And he gets ice cream too!

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2 hours ago, frankendat said:

I would post more to destruction, but my thoughts haven't changed. The boarders were opened, which bought the election. Millions of new blue votes in a contest that formerly was a difference of thousands. I am waiting for the Democrats to concede issues like official ID required to vote or other Republican anti voter fraud demands, because Democrats know they have the numbers on their side. It is no matter who the Republicans chose to represent, I will vote for an eggplant over a Democrat.

 

Hey, but the illegals are Christian, maybe the republicans should let another 3 million illegals flood over the border to undercut their children's wages and while republicans vote unanimously give another trillion in aide to those that brought them here

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I'm of the opinion that if you went the Vlad the Impaler solution it would drastically reduce the illegal crossings.... one way or another.

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11 hours ago, frankendat said:

I would post more to destruction, but my thoughts haven't changed. The boarders were opened, which bought the election. Millions of new blue votes in a contest that formerly was a difference of thousands. I am waiting for the Democrats to concede issues like official ID required to vote or other Republican anti voter fraud demands, because Democrats know they have the numbers on their side. It is no matter who the Republicans chose to represent, I will vote for an eggplant over a Democrat.

I just started posting to destruction and am already strongly considering stopping. I'm one level from reaching "Tin Foil Hat" level when it comes to these topics 🤣. I might be forcefully shunned from this topic if I keep it up. But seriously can anyone give me another explanation for why our Government is putting all their effort towards turning men into females? Weakening their minds and bodies? Why are they deliberately dumbing down the US population? Why are so many countries following the ideas set forth by the "World Economic Forum"? What does the WEF's end game consist of for "we the pawns"? I've already posted my thoughts on these questions in my prior posts so I won't repeat them. But not one of the moves that are being made by the powers (US gov and their puppet masters) point towards the united states keeping the #1 spot as a world power. At least not in my mind. Do you really think any of the young new age cupcakes are going to go off and put their lives on the line to defend this country? Who's fault is that?

 

When it comes to taking a political side. I think picking a political side and sticking to it no matter how crazy it gets is the worst thing you can do for this country. I don't understand how people can blindly follow a candidate no matter how unqualified or crazy they are, just because they're running for your party. I don't consider myself to be the sharpest tool in the shed. But I know enough to know that its best to question everything.

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12 hours ago, Dguy210 said:

I'm of the opinion that if you went the Vlad the Impaler solution it would drastically reduce the illegal crossings.... one way or another.

 

 The women and children? You just don't lead them as much.

 

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8 hours ago, IZRL said:

I just started posting to destruction and am already strongly considering stopping. I'm one level from reaching "Tin Foil Hat" level when it comes to these topics 🤣. I might be forcefully shunned from this topic if I keep it up. But seriously can anyone give me another explanation for why our Government is putting all their effort towards turning men into females? Weakening their minds and bodies? Why are they deliberately dumbing down the US population? Why are so many countries following the ideas set forth by the "World Economic Forum"? What does the WEF's end game consist of for "we the pawns"? I've already posted my thoughts on these questions in my prior posts so I won't repeat them. But not one of the moves that are being made by the powers (US gov and their puppet masters) point towards the united states keeping the #1 spot as a world power. At least not in my mind. Do you really think any of the young new age cupcakes are going to go off and put their lives on the line to defend this country? Who's fault is that?

 

When it comes to taking a political side. I think picking a political side and sticking to it no matter how crazy it gets is the worst thing you can do for this country. I don't understand how people can blindly follow a candidate no matter how unqualified or crazy they are, just because they're running for your party. I don't consider myself to be the sharpest tool in the shed. But I know enough to know that its best to question everything.

 

The US gobbles up a large % of world resources denying it to other developing countries. Probably has a strangle hold on all world economics. I suppose 'someone' would like to see it spread around more? Can't see it being the country on top of the shit pile though. I would say that things began a down turn in about '72, which happens to be when US oil production peaked and began to drop. It has recovered but only by extreme measures of exploration and drilling/fraking. All the easy oil has been found.

 

I've seen a horrific down turn in everything since then. Lately, the last 40 years it's increasing, the last 20 incredibly so, the last 10 has seen mass migrations of people.

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16 hours ago, IZRL said:

I just started posting to destruction and am already strongly considering stopping. I'm one level from reaching "Tin Foil Hat" level when it comes to these topics 🤣. I might be forcefully shunned from this topic if I keep it up. But seriously can anyone give me another explanation for why our Government is putting all their effort towards turning men into females? Weakening their minds and bodies? Why are they deliberately dumbing down the US population? Why are so many countries following the ideas set forth by the "World Economic Forum"? What does the WEF's end game consist of for "we the pawns"? I've already posted my thoughts on these questions in my prior posts so I won't repeat them. But not one of the moves that are being made by the powers (US gov and their puppet masters) point towards the united states keeping the #1 spot as a world power. At least not in my mind. Do you really think any of the young new age cupcakes are going to go off and put their lives on the line to defend this country? Who's fault is that?

 

When it comes to taking a political side. I think picking a political side and sticking to it no matter how crazy it gets is the worst thing you can do for this country. I don't understand how people can blindly follow a candidate no matter how unqualified or crazy they are, just because they're running for your party. I don't consider myself to be the sharpest tool in the shed. But I know enough to know that its best to question everything.

Sounds like you already bought the foil hat, and these presuppositions are the result.

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21 hours ago, datzenmike said:

 

 

 

On 2/4/2024 at 1:43 PM, paradime said:

It's much easier to choose a side and let them do the thinking for you. That's why sheeple accept two piles of steaming shit as a reasonable choice for POTUS and regurgitate propaganda as fact. 

 

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39 minutes ago, paradime said:

Sounds like you already bought the foil hat, and these presuppositions are the result.

I don't disagree with you ✔️ 😃. I will say tho...I would rather be in the tin foil hat club than in the club that drank the Kool-aid.

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16 minutes ago, IZRL said:

I don't disagree with you ✔️ 😃. I will say tho...I would rather be in the tin foil hat club than in the club that drank the Kool-aid.

 

I never really thought of it this way if I understand you correctly, and I have not drank the Kool-aid in any flavor, so I am a member of the "tin foil hat club".

 

 

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As I see it drinking the Kool aid is blindly accepting the story handed you that outside observers see as detrimental to you, while tin foil hats are those that espouse or follow a conspiracy theory based on junk science and are seen simply as nut bars. Naturally there is some overlap.

 

Believing what your government has told you about co-vid would be drinking the Kool aid, while believing that the same officials have a real cure for themselves (Bill Gates) and the vaccine for everyone else (sheeple) has nano-bots in it that control your thoughts and reproductivity would be rather tin foil hat.

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18 minutes ago, datzenmike said:

As I see it drinking the Kool aid is blindly accepting the story handed you that outside observers see as detrimental to you, while tin foil hats are those that espouse or follow a conspiracy theory based on junk science and are seen simply as nut bars. Naturally there is some overlap.

 

Believing what your government has told you about co-vid would be drinking the Kool aid, while believing that the same officials have a real cure for themselves (Bill Gates) and the vaccine for everyone else (sheeple) has nano-bots in it that control your thoughts and reproductivity would be rather tin foil hat.

If you don't believe what the Government has told you about Covid would that be "tin foil hat" ? Frankly I think the Kool-Aid thing is stupid no matter who says it. Support Trump, you drink the Kool-Aid. Support Biden, you drink the Kool-Aid. I never got to drink Kool-Aid because my Mom would never buy it. A can of Fresca or Tab was all I got.

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You're not automatically a foil hat just because you don't believe your government on co-vid. (actually you sound rather rational these days) But if you think Fauci is actually a alien reptile in disguise trying to thin the human lemming population well, obviously tin foil hat stuff.

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On 2/3/2024 at 8:30 PM, IZRL said:

What is the point of these hearings? I have yet to see anyone be held accountable for their actions. The fauci hearings, the facebook hearings, the FBI hearings. Nothing! I think these hearings are just a way for the Gov. to keep the general public at ease. Just a way to shut us up. They sit up there wagging their fingers, putting on a show for us. I call B.S., these hearings are just meant for the Gov. to keep doing what they're doing while giving us a false sense of security. The US Gov was the one that was behind covid, and then they put on a show wagging their fingers at Fauci. The US Gov is using the FBI to do their dirty political shenanigans, and now they're wagging their fingers at the Director of the FBI Chris Wray. The US Gov. infiltrated facebook to sway people's votes in the last elections. The US Gov is also pushing porn and allowing the Alphabet's grooming of children in schools. and they are pushing children to mutilate their own bodies and take life altering pills to keep their agenda in motion. And then they sit up there wagging their fingers at Zuckerberg. As if they weren't equally or more guilty than he is on the constant push to destroy the minds and bodies of our next generation. Wake up people This is just a show to keep us content and out of the way. And for those of you pointing your fingers at the left. It doesn't matter who is in office, IMO. There is an agenda that has been in motion for many many years and it's always in motion no matter the party who's in office. I watched a short clip of an interview Trump had a while back. I have never seen Trump dodge a question like the one he dodged in this interview. There was a pause placed on funding for gain of function research placed back in 2014 during Obama's presidency. The pause was then lifted in 2017 under president Trump. The interviewer questioned Trump about it and he dodged the question. This is just another confirmation to me that the wheels are always in motion in the background no matter what. If you still think the most important battle is Red vs Blue, you're right where they want you to be friends. Distracted and out of the way.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4Qv-OdcEPI

 

 

I have not read anybody else's response to this.  My take, is that the GOP knows that hardly any of these accusations will ever get past the Senate, the DOJ, the FBI etc, as they are all run by the left, monetarily supported by scum like Soros etc.  Most of the liberal DA's are paid by people like Soros.  The GOP has been quite successful at researching & reporting, however they are constantly cock blocked.  The GOP can "put it all out there", so we can see it, but the liberals do not watch or pay any attention to any of it, so they are completely uninformed.........or they support it regardless.  Once the hearings are to a certain point or closed, it is the responsibility of Congress to proceed, but most of that stuff will never get past the left run Senate.  Then, if it does, the DOJ will not likely press charges or go after them, as the DOJ is run by the left & is protecting all of their scum swamp rats, like Hunter.  I am surprised that the DOJ is actually pursuing Hunter thus far, but I bet it all gets buried & Hunter walks.  I wish people would see & understand, that the USA judicial system is a train wreck these days..............it is a two tiered system, protecting the left scum & targeting conservatives.  I'm SURE somebody will disagree with me here & I will have to go back to the beginning, to try to explain it AGAIN!!!!!!!!!! 😡😆💩    

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On 2/3/2024 at 8:30 PM, IZRL said:

What is the point of these hearings? I have yet to see anyone be held accountable for their actions. The fauci hearings, the facebook hearings, the FBI hearings. Nothing! I think these hearings are just a way for the Gov. to keep the general public at ease. Just a way to shut us up. They sit up there wagging their fingers, putting on a show for us. I call B.S., these hearings are just meant for the Gov. to keep doing what they're doing while giving us a false sense of security. The US Gov was the one that was behind covid, and then they put on a show wagging their fingers at Fauci. The US Gov is using the FBI to do their dirty political shenanigans, and now they're wagging their fingers at the Director of the FBI Chris Wray. The US Gov. infiltrated facebook to sway people's votes in the last elections. The US Gov is also pushing porn and allowing the Alphabet's grooming of children in schools. and they are pushing children to mutilate their own bodies and take life altering pills to keep their agenda in motion. And then they sit up there wagging their fingers at Zuckerberg. As if they weren't equally or more guilty than he is on the constant push to destroy the minds and bodies of our next generation. Wake up people This is just a show to keep us content and out of the way. And for those of you pointing your fingers at the left. It doesn't matter who is in office, IMO. There is an agenda that has been in motion for many many years and it's always in motion no matter the party who's in office. I watched a short clip of an interview Trump had a while back. I have never seen Trump dodge a question like the one he dodged in this interview. There was a pause placed on funding for gain of function research placed back in 2014 during Obama's presidency. The pause was then lifted in 2017 under president Trump. The interviewer questioned Trump about it and he dodged the question. This is just another confirmation to me that the wheels are always in motion in the background no matter what. If you still think the most important battle is Red vs Blue, you're right where they want you to be friends. Distracted and out of the way.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4Qv-OdcEPI

 

 

I just re-read your post...............THANK YOU FOR SAYING THIS!! 😎  I do agree that the GOP has it's own internal issues, but it is people like McConnell, Swalwell, Cheney etc etc who are all RINO's.................they claim to be Republican's, but they side with the democrats in so many ways.  They are all in it to make money OR they are too stupid (ie Swalwell) to see their own mistakes along the way. 

 

My take on Trump vs Fauci, is that Trump TRUSTED Fauci.  THAT blew up in his face.  Trump was WRONG to trust Fauci, cuz Fauci is probably the worst leftist scum in my opinion.  I do not "hate" Brandon, Harris, Wray, Mayorkas etc etc etc, but I do have a deep seething hatred for Fauci, as he was the leader of the Gain of Function crap, that started Covid & then he used Covid as a weapon to "climb the ladder" AND make billions of dollars, all the while killing people.  I will NEVER side with the left liberals.  I think Trump is the guy to get started fixing this mess, cuz he has the balls to do it.  I do not think any of the other GOP nominees could handle it.................

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On 2/4/2024 at 9:03 AM, datzenmike said:

I think you give Biden too much credit/blame. The party or something figures out this crap and he just does what he's told.

 

I do not think that it is that cut n dry.  I agree that Brandon is a leftist puppet, likely being "guided" by Obama & his scum.  But I think Brandon tries to be the tough guy & does some things on his own accord, perhaps even going against what the puppet masters try to get him to do.  Bottom line, this term has been a leftist train wreck & Brandon is neck deep in it!!!!!!!! 🤬💩🖕

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