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The chilling effect of this cowardly act of terror is being amplified by the rhetoric of world "leaders". Grotesque as it is, this event is a publicity cue for those who want to diminish individual privacy, and freedom under the rues of defending our safety. Islam is not the enemy. It is the arrogance of power, the rational of might makes right, and the ruling class fighting over trillions of $ buried under the Holy Land of the world's three main religions. This evil has killed, or displaced millions of Muslim people, and the West can't understand why there's a cluster fuck of vitriol in the Middle East. No matter how loud the sward rattling and cries for revenge, we are never going to shoot our way out of this mess. If 1% of the oil profit had been invested in regional infrastructure, education, and public security, ISIS would not exist today.

 

Where in the Constitution is privacy guaranteed? It's not and never has been.

 

I am for more surveillance because number one I have nothing to hide and number two the extreme accumulation of information is perhaps one of the only ways we can be proactive in this era of asymmetrical warfare.

 

Please don't forget Muslim expansionism in the middle ages, all of the "Big Three" have blood on their hands, arms, shoulders and just about every other goddamned body part (to extend the analogy).

 

In my opinion, Judaism, Christianity and Islam need to be wiped off the face of the planet as they are evolutionary dead ends.

 

Part of the attraction of terrorist groups to prospects is that, yes they are building schools and hospitals and maintaining infrastructure in areas where the wealthy leaders are ignoring them.

 

But..."Our logic is at fault if we ignore the fact that right is founded on brute force and even today needs violence to maintain it."- Sigmund Freud

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At the very least.. it should be labeled. This shit does't fly in the rest of the world.

 

 

Then the health department wonders why merica is so cancerous, fucking geniuses we have...

 

wtf? we've been genetically modifying food for thousands of years. Cancer has been with us just as long.  Big deal.

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Gmo's as a buzz word are quite over blown, the intention has been to develop sustainable food to feed our ridiculously over populated planet. By growing food that requires less chemicals to fight pests and disease we can get a higher yield per acre which in turn feeds more people.

Then every one wants organic which has no chemicals added, unfortunately organic has a low yield compared to inorganic.

Now imagine a high yield crop that needed no chemicals added because it was bred to fight the things that plauge a traditional organic field.

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Where in the Constitution is privacy guaranteed? It's not and never has been.

 

I am for more surveillance because number one I have nothing to hide and number two the extreme accumulation of information is perhaps one of the only ways we can be proactive in this era of asymmetrical warfare.

 

Please don't forget Muslim expansionism in the middle ages, all of the "Big Three" have blood on their hands, arms, shoulders and just about every other goddamned body part (to extend the analogy).

 

In my opinion, Judaism, Christianity and Islam need to be wiped off the face of the planet as they are evolutionary dead ends.

 

Part of the attraction of terrorist groups to prospects is that, yes they are building schools and hospitals and maintaining infrastructure in areas where the wealthy leaders are ignoring them.

 

But..."Our logic is at fault if we ignore the fact that right is founded on brute force and even today needs violence to maintain it."- Sigmund Freud

 

The 4th amendment prohibits unreasonable searches and seizures and requires any warrant to be judicially sanctioned and supported by probable cause. The 9th, 10th and 11th amendments very clearly protect the sovereignty of individual freedom from the tyranny of the state. If you want to experience what it's like to give up these protections, move to the Middle East.

 

1st Amendment protects freedom of religion 

 

era of asymmetrical warfare? This is an era of ideological warfare, and to ignore that only serves to inflame the conflict.

 

 

Your quote at the bottom is from the correspondence between Freud and Einstein 1931-1933 published in a pamphlet called "Why War?". You've taken Freud's words out of context here, and cleverly made it seem as though he was a right wing Hawk. That is far from the truth, he was in fact a pacifist as was Einstein. 

 

'It is all too clear that the nationalistic ideas, paramount today in every country, operate in quite a contrary direction. Some there are who hold that the Bolshevist conceptions may make an end of war, but, as things are, that goal lies very far away and, perhaps, could only be attained after a spell of brutal internecine warfare. Thus it would seem that any effort to replace brute force by the might of an ideal is, under present conditions, doomed to fail. Our logic is at fault if we ignore the fact that right is founded on brute force and even today needs violence to maintain it."

 

"I pass on to another point, the basis, as it strikes me, of our common hatred of war. It is this: We cannot do otherwise than hate it. Pacifists we are, since our organic nature wills us thus to be. Hence it comes easy to us to find arguments that justify our standpoint."

 

http://www.zionism-israel.com/Albert_Einstein/Einstein_Freud_Why_War.htm

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It comes down to this, does individual freedom trump the safety of the collective?

 

There is no individual without an intact collective.

 

"Freedom" is somewhat of an illusion these days, we are controlled in ways we are unaware of.

 

When has warfare ever not been idealogical?

 

There are a lot of hard decisions that are going to have to be made.

 

We will get through it, unreasonable fear has no place.

 

I don't fear the terrorists and I don't fear my government.

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But..."Our logic is at fault if we ignore the fact that right is founded on brute force and even today needs violence to maintain it."- Sigmund Freud

 

 

Can see the point being made there however humans are not at a point wherein they have mastered the savagery of their natures to enable a new dynamic to be in play and become status quo. 

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I'm somewhat left wing when it comes to domestic programs and am wary of the of big business gaining too much power (which may or may not be a moot point at this time).

 

But we have time to debate all those issues, against this threat to our sovereignty, we do not.

 

"Individual rights" has kind of been taken to its' vomit inducing extreme these days for me.

 

Most people can police themselves but then you get these idiots who ruin it for the rest of us;

 

Jerkoffs hopped up on some substance who think they can do what they want with no repercussions, and when they get their asses killed by the police because they are a public menace, everyone acts all horrified and goes on a rampage.

 

Morons with no sense of spiritual, financial or human reponsibility whom think they can breed as they see fit (be fruitful and multiply...right; the words of an insane god) and their poor offspring pay the price for their parents delusion.

 

Sociopaths in service to only their greed wielding financial weapons of mass destruction and threatening to bring the whole party to an end.

 

There are tons of examples of misguided liberty but what I remember is this;

 

"United we stand, divided we fall".

 

My individual rights do not supersede those of the collective because without the collective I do not have any rights.

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99% of government run programs are corrupted and inefficient, you go right ahead and give those clowns more control, I'll just sit back and watch it all go to shit....oh wait....it already is!

 

 What sources do you draw this statistic from? This sounds like the politics of division, read this and get back to me;

 

  What matters in American politics is perception. Hyped up marketing overwhelms the perception of our senses. Republican strategists understand this. That’s how they succeeded in deceiving Americans about Pres. Obama’s economic stimulus of 2009.

 

 Lest we forget, the entire world was then heading for a 1930s Depression. This country lost 8.7 million jobs in the Great Recession (Center on Budget and Policy Priorities).

 

 This mess was caused by Republicans. Sen. Phil Gramm, R-Texas snuck through laws favoring Wall Street that stuck us with those dangerous financial derivatives. Those supposedly safe investments threatened the entire global economy in 2008. Industrial output plunged worldwide and millions lost everything.

 

 Finance ministers around the world met urgently and agreed on stimulus policies to pull the global economy out of its nosedive. But Republicans opposed President Obama’s stimulus fanatically. They hyped up tiny items to discredit the whole policy. They conflated it with the hated 2008 Troubled Asset Relief Program (the bailout of banks and Wall Street) enacted by President Bush Junior, mark you.

 

 Democrats were blindsided. They don’t understand perception. They fought back miserably, making things worse. Right-wing goons equated “stimulus” with “bailout”, “fraud” and “waste”. Obama didn’t seize the headlines. He didn’t marshal prominent economists like Joseph Stiglitz and Paul Krugman into the public eye. He lost that crucial swagger, vital in American politics. The “narrative” and “framing” were driven entirely by Republicans. Their Noise Machine blasted out whoppers, parroted by the media making Americans believe that the stimulus was a failure.

 

 Obama expected that Republicans would come to America’s aid in her hour of peril. They threw sand in the gears instead. These tactics are chronicled in “The New New Deal” by Michael Grunwald. Don’t read it. It’s sickening. You’d vomit. There are pages of blatant Republican lies. Even Sen. George Voinovitch R-Ohio was revolted “Instead of doing what was right, partisan politics always came first.” Wrecking America for political spite was more important to Republicans than nursing America back to health.

 

 Krugman commented (Sept. 12, 2012) “But because it fell short of its goals, and was roundly ridiculed by Republicans and inadequately defended by Democrats, who should have trumpeted its success, the presidents stimulus plan is now considered a stumble.”

 

 Here’s what the experts had to say; CNN Money stated (Sept. 8 2011): “ Despite nonstop criticism from Republicans, the Obama administration’s effort to help the economy has created jobs.” Krugman, a Nobel-prize-winner loved it (Feb. 22, 2014): “It created or saved an average of 1.6 million jobs a year for four years.” In his opinion it prevented a depression. Financial markets loved it as well.

 The conservative “Economist” magazine concurred (March 8, 2014): “When he became president in 2009, Barack Obama’s job was pure fire-fighting. His huge package of bail-outs and stimulus was justified by the awful symptoms of the slump: a jobless rate approaching 10 percent and a defict of $1.4 trillion. It worked: The economy was growing again by late 2009: the deficit soon tumbled.”

 

 Warren Buffet called the stimulus “half a Viagra”. Democrats had only 58 votes in the Senate (breaking a filibuster needs 60 votes), however and the two remaining moderate Republicans wouldn’t allow a bigger stimulus ( to get to 60). And no emergency program could have cured America’s problems resulting from 35 years of Reagan’s “voodoo economics.” Polls showed that Americans wanted more govern ment spending like FDR”S New Deal, but no more of that nasty “stimulus”.

 

 The conclusion is depressing. Lies work in America. Integrity is gone. Gridlock is the new norm. Republicans, including Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wisconsin, and Sen. Mitch McConnell, R-Kentucky attacked Obama’s stimulus publicly but requested stimulus money privately. These hypocrites calculated that American voters are fools and don’t demand integrity. They calculated correctly. Republicans won back the House in 2010. They demanded insane spending cuts and shut down government to get them. America’s bond rating fell for the first time. The cuts undid many of the gains from the stimulus, so the recovery was slow.

 

 When did obstructionism become de facto policy in congress? There are many factors contributing but  no single person bears as much responsibility as Newt Gingrich. Gingrich’s greatest act of obstructionist brinkmanship was the 1995 and 1996 government shutdowns. Thanks to his refusal to concede on spending on social services, the government closed for five days in 1995, longer than the previous eight government shutdowns, and for a whopping twenty-one days a year later—the longest shutdown in history. Thanks to Gingrich’s obstinacy, health and welfare services for veterans were curtailed, Social Security checks were delayed, tens of thousands of visa applications went unprocessed and “numerous sectors of the economy” were negatively impacted, according to the Congressional Research Service.

 

 

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99% of government run programs are corrupted and inefficient, you go right ahead and give those clowns more control, I'll just sit back and watch it all go to shit....oh wait....it already is!

Tell us the 1% that run efficiently and uncorrupted please.Im not a fan of big government but 99% corrupt and inefficient ?

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If you believe Democrats and Republicans are here to serve the people and one is evil and the other a victim of, you sir are delusional, both parties are corrupted by their donors and their greed, neither party gives a shit about our Constitution nor the people.

 

Wake up dhp, there's a reason trump is so popular, or wait...you haven't noticed yet how badly the Republican establishment wants trump gone and they want to shove Jeb down our throats?

 

Wake up!

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If you believe Democrats and Republicans are here to serve the people and one is evil and the other a victim of, you sir are delusional, both parties are corrupted by their donors and their greed, neither party gives a shit about our Constitution nor the people.

 

Wake up dhp, there's a reason trump is so popular, or wait...you haven't noticed yet how badly the Republican establishment wants trump gone and they want to shove Jeb down our throats?

 

Wake up!

Wake up? I'm not the one who is being dictated to by my subconscious.

 

What has Trump done that is so great? He is just a master of media manipulation.

 

All he does is appeal to peoples sense of needing a protective father figure in this time of uncertainty and turmoil.

 

Jeb Bush is smarter than Trump and while I may not agree with him I would vote for him over Trumps buffoonery any day of the week.

 

I really want to vote Republican but that party has been overrun by religious looney tunes whom have no business near nuclear launch codes.

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