destruction of america

[Mattndew76]

1 minute ago, datzenmike said:

 

I admit that... could be true. But no word of him going there for talks, not even mentioned that he couldn't be available for something because he was too busy working on that peace plan. No mention of either of the parties coming for a visit and talks. It's like it never happened ...... because it probably never happened. Negotiator and diplomat and not the same thing. They are almost mutually exclusive.

 

The media didn't cover any of it.

 

Shit 3 of the main news outlets only talked about how it was a WH gathering and none were wearing masks.

[datzenmike]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jan/27/jared-kushner-israel-palestine-peace-plan

[john510]

Trump Express Optimism for US Peace Deal With Taliban – The Diplomat.html

[Mattndew76]

4 minutes ago, datzenmike said:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jan/27/jared-kushner-israel-palestine-peace-plan

 

The guardian is right up on the edge of Fact reporting and Complex analysis on the https://www.adfontesmedia.com/the-chart-version-3-0-what-exactly-are-we-reading/

 

Yet at the bottom of that article it has some very egregious claims that are EXTREME partisan speculation and conjecture. 

 

The article had some good information, but when I got to the bottom it threw that all out the window with its partisan BS narrative..  "Democracy in peril" 

[datzenmike]

I have no idea about them. I only have my opinions. By definition they can never be wrong and are very likely to be changed by mere argument.

 

 

 

3 minutes ago, Mattndew76 said:

 

The guardian is right up on the edge of Fact reporting and Complex analysis on the https://www.adfontesmedia.com/the-chart-version-3-0-what-exactly-are-we-reading/

 

Yet at the bottom of that article it has some very egregious claims that are EXTREME partisan speculation and conjecture. 

 

The article had some good information, but when I got to the bottom it threw that all out the window with its partisan BS narrative..  "Democracy in peril" 

 

I couldn't get that link to show.

 

Again he set this in motion? Is trump over there dealing with the talliban? I'm guessing this will be done with third party negotiators. A lot of people would flip if after 20 years of fighting and dying he would sit down with them at the same table... just before an election.

[Mattndew76]

4 minutes ago, datzenmike said:

I have no idea about them. I only have my opinions. By definition they can never be wrong and are very likely to be changed by mere argument.

 

 

 

 

I couldn't get that link to show.

 

Again he set this in motion? Is trump over there dealing with the talliban? I'm guessing this will be done with third party negotiators. A lot of people would flip if after 20 years of fighting and dying he would sit down with them at the same table... just before an election.

 

 I know a lot of these leaders have been ushered in and out of the WH in the last year so who knows. Kushner was also brought on by Trump so yeah he did set it in motion. Without Trump being the executive then this shit don't happen.

 

Mike's wife cannot start a peace deal with Iceland without Mike being the prime minister.... 

Edited September 17, 2020 by Mattndew76

[BrothersGarage]

49 minutes ago, john510 said:

And you provide links to the Atlantic and CNN ? Too funny.Hidden transcripts,if we know about them are they hidden ? And why would you trust the Atlantic ? Aren't they the providers of "losers and suckers" from another anonymous source.Right before an election.Sounds totally trustworthy to me.

And you Ignore ALL OTHER POINTS MADE?  Get back to me when you're not lazy enough to address everything else. 

I like how you ignore they exist and all other points but want to say "then how do we know they exist...."

 

Edited September 17, 2020 by BrothersGarage

[wayno]

OK, this is my senario on what is going on at this time, more of my thoughts.

We have people destroying Democrat controlled cities, I expect that is mostly happening in Democrat controlled states/cities because Trump will need permission from them Democrats to do anything about it and they will likely not give him that permission because they want it to continue. 

Republican cities will get help and it will stop because they asked for help which does not benifit Democrat politicians so they would likely be against such a thing and make a big deal out of Trump squashing peoples constitutional rights.

The reason these people are not being arrested and/or are being let out over and over if arrested is that they need them out there destroying and causing chaos, the sacrificing of an individual like that Trump supporter by one of them demonstrators is worth it as the Democrat controlled media can use that to try and make Trump look bad, that is what this BLM thing is about, make local police look bad as it appears that is what Democrat politicians want, now if anyone like Kyle Rittenhouse gets attacked and they kill to save themselves like he did they will do their best to make him look like a terrorist but that whole thing was caught on video from several different perspectives and it is going to be tough for them to make him look like a terrorist, but they do want Kyle and people like him to be looked upon as vigilanties instead of Patriots as Patriots are the last thing Democrat politicians want out there, they need chaos and destruction out there because the people will be more accepting of their law and order, and I am not talking about what we as the people or Trump think of as law and order, I am talking about communist/dictator type law and order, they want to appear to be saving us from the chaos that they have actively been letting go on and on.

This is why Wheeler Portlands Mayor is acting like he is as Demostrators don't like him either, they booed him in downtown Portland and chanted for him to resign but that did not make the news, what made the news was that his eyes watered and he breathed in tear gas, he left soon after that so he could go on the news and whine about federal officers as being the fault of all this, when in fact he wants to try and make Trump look like the bad guy here, when the Trump supporter was killed he blamed Trump, people like Portland Mayor Wheeler and Oregon Gonvernor Brown are evil, they want this chaos to continue so they can save everyone from the chaos when the time is right and they will expect us to be gratefull, then the Democrat establishment will roll out the new way of life for all of us which will not have a first or second amendment, the constitution of the United States of America will be trashed, it will not happen over night, but it will happen unless they are stopped.

Covid is just another avenue they went down, they need everyone to believe that the Democrats saved them, put restrictions out to control people, limit movement, divide people, make people think anyone that is not wearing a mask is trying to kill them, shut down businesses if they do not comply with their guidelines which change on a daily bassis, whenever it looks like an area is going to get to open up in Oregon they send a bunch of people  there to test for the flu, not just Covid, any flu so they can show a spike and not let them open up, the hospitals are not being overwhelmed with Covid pateints, they are not being overwhelmed with flu pateints either, hospitals are actually complaining about needing to open up for business as usual as they are losing money as no one wants to go to the hospitals because they are afraid they will get Covid there.

Lets look at Covid, why would anyone be creating such a virus unless they planned on using it, it appears to be designed to kill old people and people with other conditions which might be considerred a burden on society, it also would spread like a wild fire in dencely populated areas  where poor people live in cramped conditions(population control), places where public transpotation is the main way of travel, closed in places like nursing homes and the like, why on earth would they make such a thing unless they planned to use it, think about it, WHY WOULD THEY MAKE SUCH A VIRUS UNLESS THEY PLANNED TO USE IT!!!

If you look at who was funding that place it supposedly accidently escaped from you might start to understand, I read somewhere that Bill Gates, George Soros, and the WHO are part owners or fund that facility in China, Bill Gates thinks there are too many people on this planet and it is not sustainable, I watched a program on TV 5/6 years ago(PBS) that he said just that, Bill Gates and the like also want manditory Vaccinations for everyone, the supreme court ruled against them on manditory Vaccines as they could not prove any flu shot made in the last 40 years was safe, I have watched a video where some call these so called vacinatuions not medicines at all and they decribe some of what's in the vaccines.

There are those who say/claim these Vacinations are digtal marks like they use on animals right now, animals have digital marks imbedded in them so they know exactly what has been done to that animal for its whole life, this is what they want to do to people, you will be marked with a tatto invisible to the naked eye, it has been called "the Final Mark", this is the type of thing Hitler did to the Jews except it was not invisable, you will eventually be required to have this mark to buy anything as they will get rid of cash(I HEARD that particular thing was put in one of the Covid stimulas packages), you will need this mark to buy anything, even food, there will be no more cash, credit cards, nothing but the mark that idenifies you, this will be used to get rid of all illeagal drugs and anything else not thought of as desireable, you will be nothing but livestock to them.

This link below is about the so called vacinations from these peoples point of view.
https://sgtreport.us6.list-manage.com/track/click?u=203085e829&id=96647cf5fb&e=edd8dcf61a

The Final Mark link, I am not particularly religious, but it amazing that this was all thought of and written about such a long time ago.
https://endtimestruth.com/mark-of-the-beast/final-mark/

I asked a smart guy what he thought of this post above and was asked to make a few left out points in this statement above, but what I will do is just copy and paste the suggestions as I am lazy.

Wayno I read through it and think it is fine.  You have been doing your research.  The only thing you might want to add, is the radicals that Wheeler loves set fire to the very building he lives in.  I think you hit home on the mark issue, but you might want to add these people are pushing for a digital currency, and might want to mention that.  That is what would be tracked by the rulers and if you get out of line, they cut your financial ability to survive off by taking all of your cash and losing the record of it.  Very scary scenario.  You might not be able to travel unless the chip showed you having the vaccines they want you to get.  What would happen is you will lose your individuality and be totally controlled.  There are already digital currencies in place like bitcoin, and others.  The governments of all countries need to ban the very existence of digital currency. 

[Mattndew76]

5 minutes ago, BrothersGarage said:

And you Ignore ALL OTHER POINTS MADE?  Get back to me when you're not lazy enough to address everything else. 

I like how you ignore they exist and all other points but want to say "then how do we know they exist...."

 

 

Pretty sure his answer encompasses all other points you made. Being that he thinks you believe false and misleading information handed out by outlets that do not shy away from their overt bias toward Trump. So who is to say that they're not telling lies with using "anonymous" sources that don't even exist, or just flat out participating in false smears...

[BrothersGarage]

2 minutes ago, Mattndew76 said:

 

Pretty sure his answer encompasses all other points you made. Being that he thinks you believe false and misleading information handed out by outlets that do not shy away from their overt bias toward Trump. So who is to say that they're not telling lies with using "anonymous" sources that don't even exist, or just flat out participating in false smears...

....
 

Quote

" Trump is doing his own job of doing shit to get himself removed - hence the impeachment. Referring to dead soldiers losers and suckers. Aligning himself with shitheels like Steve Bannon,. Devos in charge of US Education, DeJoy as Postmaster General. Using the Justice department to shield himself from rape allegations from before he was a president. Fighting to withhold his taxes all the way up to the supreme court. Failed in disclosing and divesting from his global conflicts of interest. Hiding data on climate change on the EPA website. Hiding of transcripts of communications between him and Putin. Hiding of transcripts of communications between him an MBS. Forcing all Covid reporting to go though his admin rather than the CDC.(and all the regulatory capture that's happened.) ... And using campaign funds to pay off a Pornstar." 

That's all "fake news" eh? 

[frankendat]

4 hours ago, a.d._510_n_ok said:

Portland Protesters Say Their Lives Were Upended by the Posting of Their Mug Shots on a Conservative Twitter Account

https://www.wweek.com/news/2020/09/16/portland-protesters-say-their-lives-were-upended-by-the-posting-of-their-mug-shots-on-a-conservative-twitter-account/

 

Way to go Ngo. It is a practice endorsed by Democrats at all levels, and it is time the NOT Democrats play the same way. Although, I do not believe it is a good policy to release  information before conviction, as it is a tactic ripe for abuse, detrimental to the concept of "innocent before proven guilty" and undermines the First Amendment. Much like, oh, I don't know, the multiple methods proposed by the Biden campaign, to strengthen and expand, forced firearm relinquishment,before conviction, as it is a tactic ripe for abuse, detrimental to the concept of "innocent before proven guilty" and undermines the Second Amendment.

 

[Mattndew76]

7 minutes ago, frankendat said:

 

Way to go Ngo. It is a practice endorsed by Democrats at all levels, and it is time the NOT Democrats play the same way. Although, I do not believe it is a good policy to release  information before conviction, as it is a tactic ripe for abuse, detrimental to the concept of "innocent before proven guilty" and undermines the First Amendment. Much like, oh, I don't know, the multiple methods proposed by the Biden campaign, to strengthen and expand, forced firearm relinquishment,before conviction, as it is a tactic ripe for abuse, detrimental to the concept of "innocent before proven guilty" and undermines the Second Amendment.

 

 

Tim was opining on this instance.

 

 

[datzenmike]

RE wano's (rant)

 

If I lived in Portland and saw what was happening there riots and those arrested let loose again and police helpless but not in trump states or cities I would know where to place the blame come election time. So what's the grand plan here for the mayors of these cities to remain in power??? Seems like they are cutting their own throats.

 

Bill Gates and Soros...... A virus that kills the elderly and infirm. This begs the question is Gates and Soros doing this out of the kindness of their hearts and at great risk to themselves and their loved ones or maybe they have a get out of jail card like a vaccination against co-vid? Maybe trump has it too and why he doesn't give a shit about it's spread.

[frankendat]

1 hour ago, wayno said:

OK, this is my senario on what is going on at this time, more of my thoughts.

We have people destroying Democrat controlled cities, I expect that is mostly happening in Democrat controlled states/cities because Trump will need permission from them Democrats to do anything about it and they will likely not give him that permission because they want it to continue. 

Republican cities will get help and it will stop because they asked for help which does not benifit Democrat politicians so they would likely be against such a thing and make a big deal out of Trump squashing peoples constitutional rights.

The reason these people are not being arrested and/or are being let out over and over if arrested is that they need them out there destroying and causing chaos, the sacrificing of an individual like that Trump supporter by one of them demonstrators is worth it as the Democrat controlled media can use that to try and make Trump look bad, that is what this BLM thing is about, make local police look bad as it appears that is what Democrat politicians want, now if anyone like Kyle Rittenhouse gets attacked and they kill to save themselves like he did they will do their best to make him look like a terrorist but that whole thing was caught on video from several different perspectives and it is going to be tough for them to make him look like a terrorist, but they do want Kyle and people like him to be looked upon as vigilanties instead of Patriots as Patriots are the last thing Democrat politicians want out there, they need chaos and destruction out there because the people will be more accepting of their law and order, and I am not talking about what we as the people or Trump think of as law and order, I am talking about communist/dictator type law and order, they want to appear to be saving us from the chaos that they have actively been letting go on and on.

This is why Wheeler Portlands Mayor is acting like he is as Demostrators don't like him either, they booed him in downtown Portland and chanted for him to resign but that did not make the news, what made the news was that his eyes watered and he breathed in tear gas, he left soon after that so he could go on the news and whine about federal officers as being the fault of all this, when in fact he wants to try and make Trump look like the bad guy here, when the Trump supporter was killed he blamed Trump, people like Portland Mayor Wheeler and Oregon Gonvernor Brown are evil, they want this chaos to continue so they can save everyone from the chaos when the time is right and they will expect us to be gratefull, then the Democrat establishment will roll out the new way of life for all of us which will not have a first or second amendment, the constitution of the United States of America will be trashed, it will not happen over night, but it will happen unless they are stopped.

Covid is just another avenue they went down, they need everyone to believe that the Democrats saved them, put restrictions out to control people, limit movement, divide people, make people think anyone that is not wearing a mask is trying to kill them, shut down businesses if they do not comply with their guidelines which change on a daily bassis, whenever it looks like an area is going to get to open up in Oregon they send a bunch of people  there to test for the flu, not just Covid, any flu so they can show a spike and not let them open up, the hospitals are not being overwhelmed with Covid pateints, they are not being overwhelmed with flu pateints either, hospitals are actually complaining about needing to open up for business as usual as they are losing money as no one wants to go to the hospitals because they are afraid they will get Covid there.

Lets look at Covid, why would anyone be creating such a virus unless they planned on using it, it appears to be designed to kill old people and people with other conditions which might be considerred a burden on society, it also would spread like a wild fire in dencely populated areas  where poor people live in cramped conditions(population control), places where public transpotation is the main way of travel, closed in places like nursing homes and the like, why on earth would they make such a thing unless they planned to use it, think about it, WHY WOULD THEY MAKE SUCH A VIRUS UNLESS THEY PLANNED TO USE IT!!!

If you look at who was funding that place it supposedly accidently escaped from you might start to understand, I read somewhere that Bill Gates, George Soros, and the WHO are part owners or fund that facility in China, Bill Gates thinks there are too many people on this planet and it is not sustainable, I watched a program on TV 5/6 years ago(PBS) that he said just that, Bill Gates and the like also want manditory Vaccinations for everyone, the supreme court ruled against them on manditory Vaccines as they could not prove any flu shot made in the last 40 years was safe, I have watched a video where some call these so called vacinatuions not medicines at all and they decribe some of what's in the vaccines.

There are those who say/claim these Vacinations are digtal marks like they use on animals right now, animals have digital marks imbedded in them so they know exactly what has been done to that animal for its whole life, this is what they want to do to people, you will be marked with a tatto invisible to the naked eye, it has been called "the Final Mark", this is the type of thing Hitler did to the Jews except it was not invisable, you will eventually be required to have this mark to buy anything as they will get rid of cash(I HEARD that particular thing was put in one of the Covid stimulas packages), you will need this mark to buy anything, even food, there will be no more cash, credit cards, nothing but the mark that idenifies you, this will be used to get rid of all illeagal drugs and anything else not thought of as desireable, you will be nothing but livestock to them.

This link below is about the so called vacinations from these peoples point of view.
https://sgtreport.us6.list-manage.com/track/click?u=203085e829&id=96647cf5fb&e=edd8dcf61a

The Final Mark link, I am not particularly religious, but it amazing that this was all thought of and written about such a long time ago.
https://endtimestruth.com/mark-of-the-beast/final-mark/

I asked a smart guy what he thought of this post above and was asked to make a few left out points in this statement above, but what I will do is just copy and paste the suggestions as I am lazy.

Wayno I read through it and think it is fine.  You have been doing your research.  The only thing you might want to add, is the radicals that Wheeler loves set fire to the very building he lives in.  I think you hit home on the mark issue, but you might want to add these people are pushing for a digital currency, and might want to mention that.  That is what would be tracked by the rulers and if you get out of line, they cut your financial ability to survive off by taking all of your cash and losing the record of it.  Very scary scenario.  You might not be able to travel unless the chip showed you having the vaccines they want you to get.  What would happen is you will lose your individuality and be totally controlled.  There are already digital currencies in place like bitcoin, and others.  The governments of all countries need to ban the very existence of digital currency. 

 

 

Agreed, that is the bad days scenario I keep at the back of my mind,. Years ago I thought it would be a kind of scanable bar code tattoo but when the pet tracking/identifying microchips were released, I knew it was only a matter of time. The debit card is now chipped and the numbers and scanning strip are only for businesses with old card readers or online purchases. It is basically a plastic chip holder. I read somewhere recently of babies being chipped, so parents could track movement, The baby chip was for location, but the creators  of the chip are working to create a chip that delivers location and vital signs. If babies heart rate, breathing, blood pressure exceed set parameters, then the parents are notified, by smart phone of course.

Waiting for when the credit/debit chip that is recommended (for security and safety of course) installed in your wrist or forehead, because crime has risen so dramatically, muggings, larceny and robbery so commonplace they are no longer investigated. After Biden wins and the United States is overrun with people from all countries and expanding health care to include all. After Biden attempts the great gun grab, that spurs some revolt that weakens the United States. Invasion will remain somewhat deterred, because the reputation of the American people to resist. Besides, China and whoever else will be happy to suck the resources of America, like loan sharks. There will be occasional, bombing or other attack, changing this or that state boundary or when the Michigan Muslims attempt to expand their area for Sharia law. Leaving your home with any valuable property, everywhere but the massive rich gated and private army protected communities will not be recommended.

[datzenmike]

You're talking about the mark of the beast?????? The mark the anti christ puts upon you. 

[wayno]

2 hours ago, datzenmike said:

RE wano's (rant)

 

If I lived in Portland and saw what was happening there riots and those arrested let loose again and police helpless but not in trump states or cities I would know where to place the blame come election time. So what's the grand plan here for the mayors of these cities to remain in power??? Seems like they are cutting their own throats.

 

Bill Gates and Soros...... A virus that kills the elderly and infirm. This begs the question is Gates and Soros doing this out of the kindness of their hearts and at great risk to themselves and their loved ones or maybe they have a get out of jail card like a vaccination against co-vid? Maybe trump has it too and why he doesn't give a shit about it's spread.

 

That was a 3 day rant, it took me that long to write it and change it to the point I was happy enough to post it, it was not something I just wrote as a reaction to something others said so it is not really a rant, some of the info is from as far back as Feb/March/April, I am now looking at the bigger picture.

I myself have wondered why Brown/Wheeler seem to not care what the people of Oregon think, we will likely find out in a couple months after the election or it might be as late as Jan 3, 2021, it really depends on who wins the Presidential race as well as who controls the Congress and Senate, like I said earlier, if the Democrat Party looses they may not except it.

 

What can they do about it if they loose big you ask, kill him.

 

It really comes back to what I have said before, can we actually have a legitimate election at all, who knows maybe 2016 will be the last legit Presidential election this country has.

 

Yes Mike, that is the Mark I was talking about, Cattle are marked on the big cattle farms that supply meat, they have been doing that for a while now, a mark can be anything from a capsule under the skin, an invisible tattoo, a shot that puts something in you, I have read quite a bit about that shit lately, it makes what I used to think what might be a chip under the skin tame, you have to remember, one of the richest people on this planet thinks there are too many people on this planet and it is not sustainable, have you ever watched some shows on TV where they talk about aliens giving the people the miracle serum that makes most everyone immune to disease and they live to be 150 years old, and 2/3rds threw the show the people find out that the vaccination also sterilized 90 percent of the population, fiction could become real. 

 

I am not crazy, I just see everything from every side and then think what could these people do about it, everything we hear about Trump comes from the Democrat controlled media where I live in Washington State, none of it is positive, it is all negative about everything he says or stands for and it has been that way for a long time, I have to search to find anyone that says something positive, this alone makes me want to vote for him this election, if you make me pick a side(tell me it is them or us), I will pick them every time.

Edited September 17, 2020 by wayno

[banzai510(hainz)]

15 hours ago, BrothersGarage said:

By "Fixing" our trade agreement with China - you mean consumers paying more for goods? 

TVs in Walmart are even cheaper

Harbor Freight tool with coupon is still Free. or was it the Gloves on the back page?

 

Biden son Likes China. He was on Airforce 2 this whole time with his sister.

 

China will be a threat to the US sooner or later and you look the other way.  Watch Xi as he says he will control everything with Cjinese charators at his party meeting. watch them.  sooner we decouple from them the better.

Make it in Bangladesh, India, Africa ectt China is not a Player that goes by the rules and you want to worry about your Walmart shoes. Niles made in China fro Lebraun James and the NBA?    Have lever playing field!! Why is a cheep Cherokee in China 80K. Cause they tax the shit out of it/ So we can do the same.

 

Why I like Trump. ?

Call out bad trade deals with Japan ,Korea, mexico  Canada, CHINA INDIA!!!!

Call NATO out for being FREE LOaders

Enhance the wall

Increase the miltary

VA medical

Cut food stamps

Low unemployment  3.5 percent beat that one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Back the Police.  in sept 11 they were HEROS now they are criminals.

MY 401K went up like 200K

school choice

My 2nd Amendmant RIGHT

My Taxes did go down believe it or not.

Bussiness spend money on upgraqdes its a tax right off.

Middle east peace plan

Getting out of Iraq and Afganistan Syria also going down

Cutting funds to WHO and to the United Nations another band of FREE LOADERS that vote against on the side of CHINA.

NO SECTION 8 HOUSING IN NICE NEIHBORHOODS.

300 judges . and the supreme court

just 3.5 years.

 

 

Biden = Communism  BLM Anfifa ect.

Raparations , and Al Sharpton in charge of the ecomomy

free everything.

if he wins I hope I don't have to go to work anymore

At one DEBATE he said all illegal immigrants crossing the Border get FREE health care. Shit we got US cictizens with that and you want to bring MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Taxes going UP Regulations going up which

gets passes to the CONSUMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!more than China tariffs BELIEVE it.

 

why is gas in Washington 3$ a gal when the barrel of oil is at 40$?????? as of today.

in 2008 barrel was 120$ and gas for like 4.50?  don't you think it would be 3 times more at that ratio?????

 

 

 

Edited September 17, 2020 by banzai510(hainz)

[datzenmike]

Military out of Iraq and Afghanistan but increase the military?? How does this work? I already said you need wars to keep the military to keep them sharp like using your tools so they don't rust. You can't have a good military if they sit at home. 

 

No one is going to stand for having a 'chip' implanted. That's worse than taking a gun away from a Texan. Besides most purchases are debit cards now anyway.

[banzai510(hainz)]

3 minutes ago, datzenmike said:

Military out of Iraq and Afghanistan but increase the military?? How does this work?

There was a COLD war , I think that came out OK.

Im not for military spending(tell Nato to make up the difference) but Obama let it run down to give out Food stamps and welfare programs that intrap people for life. Gererational dependence.

EXAMPLE

The Germans in the last 4 months of WW2 was still 10times better that the German Army Now and its a disgrace they let it get that bad. We cant count on them getting out of a wet paper bag. So why even be in Nato.They are a RIch country and should have at least 1000 tanks ready to go but have maybe 200. How far is that going to last that's even if they work, BNut they good at exporting them cause they want the money

Edited September 17, 2020 by banzai510(hainz)

[john510]

14 hours ago, BrothersGarage said:

I didn't miss the middle east peace treaty, I literally asked WHAT ELSE other than that? 

By "Fixing" our trade agreement with China - you mean consumers paying more for goods? 

A tax cut that you never benefited from? 

I believe Trump is too chummy with Putin because he uses a Russian translator instead of the USs and refuses to release the records of his calls with Putin and instead releases altered transcripts. He has also asked that Russia attend the G7 summit.... Not because the 'media' tells me to. I don't think it would better if they were at odds, but the things I mentioned SHOULDN'T BE OVERLOOKED. 

"Rocket man" has been quiet because his ass is in a coma and his sister is taking over. 

It doesn't matter IF the 3rd world countries are shitty - THE FUCKING PRESIDENT SHOULD'NT BE CALLING THEM THAT. He's a public servant that should have a very high decorum.

The only thing about the Impeachment that was a joke is how it was how AG Barr covered it up. How many people were given charges because of it?
Also: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/18/us/politics/senate-intelligence-russian-interference-report.html

"You liberals" hope you're not addressing me. I may have some liberal views but I do not claim to be one. If anything I would align myself with progressives. 

The party divide you can thank the president for, he should be unifying us. 

"He doesn't do thing to warrant criticism" - Except for all the things I listed in my previous comment that you're ignoring....And using campaign funds to pay off a Pornstar. But OK dude. 👍

He doesn't "sugar coat anything" except I never brought that up and like that's a good thing? Again - decorum on the world stage is important. Someone should take his phone away or change his Twitter password at the VERY least. 

 

You're not sure about the hidden transcripts?  K... here's a super simple google search for you to begin to educate yourself on them: 
https://www.axios.com/white-house-trump-transcripts-putin-saudi-royals-e40ebfb2-f37f-41c2-b7c8-bf7990ee9704.html
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/sep/30/trump-putin-conversations-transcripts-russian-permission

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/07/trump-putin-press-conference-transcript/565385/
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/29/politics/trump-phone-calls-national-security-concerns/index.html

Again, like I said US media IS shit, which is why you need to look for unbiased sources such as those that are outside the US

EDIT: I am just going to jump in here and clarify to say Obama getting the Noble Peace Prize was a fucking joke. 

I will gladly pay a little more for anything if it ISN'T made in China.They manufacture junk and we all know it.Have you really noticed a cost increase on anything since Trump changed the trade deal ? I can't say i have.Besides that us Americans should support American manufacturing over China's manufacturing.You don't need to claim you're a liberal,it's quite obvious in your posting.Is there really a difference between liberal and progressive ? Doesn't seem like it to me.

[datzenmike]

No one buys quality anymore. They buy based on price... cheaper the better. Patio furniture is replaced every 2 years!!!! wtf??? Plastic chairs everywhere. Crap from China. People won't change though you might if you have the money

 

NATO: and tanks are obsolete. Fight with autonomous drones.

[banzai510(hainz)]

Barack H. Obama, the 44th President of the United States, had been in power for less than eight months when he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009. Among the reasons it gave, the Nobel Committee lauded Obama for his "extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples

 

really means sell the US out!!!!!!

 

As for China tariffs????

Don't buy Chinese and you wont pay the Tariff.  If at all since really it was already marked up at 500-1000% ABOVE COST. Wait till AFTER X mas it will be VERY VERY CHEAP .

wHY GIVE THEM MORE MONEY TO BUILD UP THEIR MILTARY IF THEY ARE SUCH A PEACEFUL NATION.Trump has the ball sto sell F16 to china. I hope that is coming like them seeling stuff to Taiwan. This irritates China. Vietnam hates Chine they are bullys and still have that warlord mentality.

 

NATO: and tanks are obsolete. Fight with autonomous drones.MIKEYOUR WINNER that's WHAT TRUMP HAS BEEN SAYING ALL ALONG. NATO IS OBSOLETE

 

China is fishing off the Gulapigos wiping out the fish reserves and nobody says anything. Fuck them and put 100% tariffs on their goods.

Just open up their markets everything will be OK. As their are more rich people in China than the population of the US so their is not reason we cant sell more goods to them.

Edited September 17, 2020 by banzai510(hainz)

[john510]

2 minutes ago, datzenmike said:

No one buys quality anymore. They buy based on price... cheaper the better. Patio furniture is replaced every 2 years!!!! wtf??? Plastic chairs everywhere. Crap from China. People won't change though you might if you have the money

 

NATO: and tanks are obsolete. Fight with autonomous drones.

Agreed.The patio furniture is a great example.Even something like a lawn chair.I have an old lawn chair,probably 40+ years old.my friend is always laughing at it when i bring it camping.Telling me buy a new one.Screw that.I have kitchen utensils that were my grandmothers.Some of this stuff has to be 60 or 70 years old.It's all in great shape.My grandparents always bought quality,high end stuff.In the long run it turns out to be cheaper.

[banzai510(hainz)]

Chinese stuff has gotten CHEAPER

 

Its Called DUMPING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  low wage and slave labor to make products subsidized by the COMMUNIST govt and dump on our shores to bankrupt Companies in the US and around the world to take market share

[Jesse C.]

17 hours ago, BrothersGarage said:

 

Can you give me some examples of him getting shit done besides what he got nominated for a nobel prize for? Because I've seen a lot of him fucking stuff up like all the trade wars, saluting north korean dictators, being best friends with Putin (and ignoring the bounties placed on US soldiers), trying to buy Greenland, calling other countries shitholes,  wants to withdraw from the WHO during a pandemic, ect. He has made us a laughing stock on the world stage. 

What was rammed down your throat in 8 years of the Obama era? Universal heathcare and?

Trump is doing his own job of doing shit to get himself removed - hence the impeachment. Referring to dead soldiers losers and suckers. Aligning himself with shitheels like Steve Bannon,. Devos in charge of US Education, DeJoy as Postmaster General. Using the Justice department to shield himself from rape allegations from before he was a president. Fighting to withhold his taxes all the way up to the supreme court. Failed in disclosing and divesting from his global conflicts of interest. Hiding data on climate change on the EPA website. Hiding of transcripts of communications between him and Putin. Hiding of transcripts of communications between him an MBS. Forcing all Covid reporting to go though his admin rather than the CDC.(and all the regulatory capture that's happened.)

Yes people are stupid for being overly critical of him on stupid shit - but he has also done a ton shit to warrant criticism and it's stupid to dismiss all that because some snowflake doesn't like that he said "grabbem by the pussy" .  

 

As James Carville once said, "It's the Economy, Stupid!" 

 

Prior to this Pandemic bullshit, the lowest Unemployment in year, the lowest unemployment in the black, hispanic and asian communities, Manufacturing was up, small business was booming with tax breaks, Obamacare Individual Mandate is gone, more secure border, protection of our 2A rights, more help for our Vets and so on....

 

You truly live in Left Bias media bubble as you seem to spout the same shit every lefty does. Just pointing out stupid shit over and over. And  no, he never referred to soldiers as losers! He has done more for them than any previous President! And the world never liked us to begin with! They only liked us when we gave them shit or apologized, like Obama did! His apology tour was one of the most embarrassing things a U.S. President has ever done! Made us look weak and he did make us weak! China ran us over and Biden used them for more money! Trust me, China is praying that Biden wins!! Hell, even the Terrorist that Trump took out are praying for a Democrat in the White House! 

 

Stop the Trump Derangement Syndrome