denmarkboy Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 Rear axle is upside down. This put the ring gear on the other side of the pinion gear in the rear axle. It also might be possible that the "pumpkin" was bolted to the rear axle upside down. They bolted the the pumpkin in upside down. Pics coming . 3 Quote Link to comment
Lockleaf Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 This seems like the most ridiculously cruel and awesome practical joke you could play on a person 2 Quote Link to comment
denmarkboy Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 So here is the correct way . And this is how hogie's diff is installed . 2 Quote Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 That's hilarious :lol: Easy fix!!! 2 Quote Link to comment
HOGIE Posted May 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 This seems like the most ridiculously cruel and awesome practical joke you could play on a person Ridiculous. Yes. When hobo mentioned it earlier I disregarded it thinking it was ridiculous and who the fuck would put the gears in upside down. I was thinking the tranny internals were all fucked up and I almost had the tranny out before I even looked close 1 Quote Link to comment
izzo Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 Be sure and lube the insides of the adjusters up GOOD. So they don't freeze up again. Take the star out, and lube it REALLY good inside with this stuff. It will not seize up again. We use this at my work, and it's amazing stuff. Trust me on this. Also use it to lube the friction points on drum shoes, and disc brakes (for the slide pins and such) For the rear differential. When you install it, aren't you supposed to set it up? so it has the correct backlash and such? May check into that so you don't burn the rear end up. 3 Quote Link to comment
HOGIE Posted May 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 So here is the correct way . And this is how hogie's diff is installed . Just to be clear, I didn't put those in like that Lol 3 Quote Link to comment
hobospyder Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 Ridiculous. Yes. When hobo mentioned it earlier I disregarded it thinking it was ridiculous and who the fuck would put the gears in upside down. I was thinking the tranny internals were all fucked up and I almost had the tranny out before I even looked close I was saying it to prevent you finding out after the tranny was out 2 Quote Link to comment
hobospyder Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 Was thinking with the forklift drive train po may have done something weird. Only explanation I could think of for forward gears going reverse and reverse going forward. 2 Quote Link to comment
Draker Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 I wonder if the electric motor spun the wrong direction.. so they just flipped the pumpkin. 4 Quote Link to comment
HOGIE Posted May 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 I wonder if the electric motor spun the wrong direction.. so they just flipped the pumpkin. The guy I bought the truck from wasn't the electric motor PO. I did get contact info for the guy but never tried to get ahold of him. Sure wish had by now. Might have gotten heads up on this little situation. Not a big deal though, just a little more wrenching on my truck. Good times 4 Quote Link to comment
HOGIE Posted May 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 Tonight I got the transmission, starter, clutch slave reinstalled that got pulled last night, that didn't need to be removed ugh Once that was back together I removed the rear bleeders and loosened the backing plate nuts, then slide out the axles. Removed nuts holding rear end gears in place and pulled the gears. Cleaned up the seal surface, axle house and reinstalled gears, right side up of course, bolted up axles, filled rear end gear oil, reinstalled driveline and topped off the tranny. Al jumped in the truck and ran it through the gears while it was up on stands. Everything moves in the right direction. Should've took a vid Gears on the bench Ring gear stamp. 4.37's Empty housing to prove it happened Blurry shot of housing with gears reinstalled 3 Quote Link to comment
]2eDeYe Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 So here is the correct way . And this is how hogie's diff is installed . That is actually some pretty cool tech. To do a spring over just flip the axle over and reinstall the diff right side up. Bam 6" lift. :D 3 Quote Link to comment
raggmann Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 J2eDeYe, The only issue with that would be your wheel cylinders/bleed screws would be facing down so you'd have a bitch of a time bleeding air out of the lines and the park brake cables would be entering at the top of the backing plates. You'd be better off keeping the axle in it's stock configuration and welding new spring perches on top of the axle which would allow you to clock the diff for proper pinion angle. 1 Quote Link to comment
denmarkboy Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 J2eDeYe, The only issue with that would be your wheel cylinders/bleed screws would be facing down so you'd have a bitch of a time bleeding air out of the lines and the park brake cables would be entering at the top of the backing plates. You'd be better off keeping the axle in it's stock configuration and welding new spring perches on top of the axle which would allow you to clock the diff for proper pinion angle. I think you can just pull the axles and diff , flip the empty housing only and re install gears an axles . brakes would still be up right . The weird parts would be a drain plug on the top . ( easy to fill at least ) And I wonder if it would get enough gear oil to the pinion bearing . 3 Quote Link to comment
raggmann Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 True, if you'd clock the whole backing plate ass'y 180 degrees after flipping the diff then it'd all line up If it were me tho I'd just weld new perches on the axle tubes 2 Quote Link to comment
hobospyder Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 That is actually some pretty cool tech. To do a spring over just flip the axle over and reinstall the diff right side up. Bam 6" lift. :D this came up in a different thread and is truly the only reason I thought of it 3 Quote Link to comment
pablo Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 can you still read your paint code sticker? is it 558? 1 Quote Link to comment
Eagle_Adam Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 That's fucking crazy as hell 3 Quote Link to comment
HOGIE Posted May 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 can you still read your paint code sticker? is it 558? Not sure. Where is the sticker located, I'll check and see. But that's what this fella told me color is "dragon green" 558 1 Quote Link to comment
flatcat19 Posted May 21, 2016 Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 Mine is 558. If yours is too then yours has some serious fade. Way different. I do like your color though. 1 Quote Link to comment
HOGIE Posted May 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 Mine is 558. If yours is too then yours has some serious fade. Way different. I do like your color though. Yes faded. Needs a buff This is what it looked like when I first got it After a wash it looks like this. Should stay more or less this shade when buffed 4 Quote Link to comment
flatcat19 Posted May 21, 2016 Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 Yeah. 558. Damn that's a clean truck. Tomorrow is 5/21/2016. Driving by then? 2 Quote Link to comment
HOGIE Posted May 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 Couple none essential project for the truck going on. Getting back to the heater box rebuild. And piecing together a bench seat Almost all the parts are ready for reassembly. Just missing one important piece Painted the outside of te box. Tomorrow paint the inside and reassemble once it's dry Three bench seats that will become one. Lower cushion from tan (620 right), back rest from blue (620 left) and tracks from marroon (521 center). And Caesar too 3 Quote Link to comment
HOGIE Posted May 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 Yeah. 558. Damn that's a clean truck. Tomorrow is 5/21/2016. Driving by then? If I drive it around with only the down pipe. Exhaust won't be in tomorrow but besides that yes. Need to scrap together seat^^^ 2 Quote Link to comment
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