Draker Posted February 19, 2016 Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 Apple has committed no crime so the FEDs cannot compel the company to hack their own software. The court can issue a warrant against the phone itself but not against Apple. Great point! Link to comment
Draker Posted February 19, 2016 Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 John McAfee is going to crack the phone for the FBI. http://www.businessinsider.com/john-mcafee-ill-decrypt-san-bernardino-phone-for-free-2016-2 Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 Quite the contrary.No-one gets to ignore a warrant issued with probable cause by a court of law. It just isn't going to happen.ANd what constitutional right does this violate? Obama effect.....Fuck the constitution :sick: Apple has committed no crime so the FEDs cannot compel the company to hack their own software. The court can issue a warrant against the phone itself but not against Apple. +100 Trump is calling for a boycott of Apple products until they unlock the phone. Could be a political move to show strength, but certainly not a move I agree with. He's going too far on this one.. When are the other clowns running against him going to ask him if he ever even read the constitution....he's an asshat. 1 Link to comment
q-tip Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 Should boycott Apple products just because theyre Apple products.... 5 Link to comment
Draker Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 Should boycott Apple products just because theyre Apple products.... They look too good next to my starbucks cup and flannel shirt.. and thick framed glasses. 4 Link to comment
Mattndew76 Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 They look too good next to my starbucks cup and flannel shirt.. and thick framed glasses. and Docs, with rolled up denim pants. 2 Link to comment
q-tip Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 Don't forget you condescending ironic attitude 1 Link to comment
maltese Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 Should boycott Apple products just because theyre Apple products.... Been doing this all along. 2 Link to comment
q-tip Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 Been doing this all along. You an me both... 1 Link to comment
VFR800 Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 The court can issue a warrant against the phone itself but not against Apple. On one handset,yes. Howver,I was wondering about how could the govt compel Apple to make a way to allow backdoor entry on ALL handsets or tech of theirs. Would seem outside of the law in itself. 1 Link to comment
maltese Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 All this talk about backdoor entry... :devil: Link to comment
Ratwagon1600 Posted February 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 John McAfee is going to crack the phone for the FBI. http://www.businessinsider.com/john-mcafee-ill-decrypt-san-bernardino-phone-for-free-2016-2 Um, dude, I posted this about a page ago. Do you owe bewbs? Link to comment
VFR800 Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/02/18/anti-gay-ted-cruz-accidentally-features-lesbian-adult-star-in-campaign-ad/?utm_source=ET&utm_medium=ETFB&utm_campaign=portal&utm_content=inf_10_60_2&tse_id=INF_9a201500da094561925c948209ba9cad "The campaign said they hired the porn star because they thought she could make Ted Cruz easier to swallow." -- jay leno Link to comment
ratpatrol66 Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 You just fucked up that plan but there aren't any terrorists here, just trolls. Seriously I think its a ploy? Link to comment
tr8er Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 It might be marketing for Apple. I'd believe that. 2 Link to comment
Mattndew76 Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 Little bit of misdirection to save face? 1 Link to comment
Rhino13 Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 John McAfee is going to crack the phone for the FBI. http://www.businessinsider.com/john-mcafee-ill-decrypt-san-bernardino-phone-for-free-2016-2 I think it's a front to cover the fact that the FBI can hack anything they want, whenever they want. They've proven that you can hack an iphones microphone and camera with the phone turned off. As long as they don't use the info they're in the clear to hack anyone say any time, John McAfee showed up in the right place at the right time for them to say "oh yeah he's going to hack it for us, he owns that shitty overpriced antivirus software that blocks all your porn so we figured he'd be a safe choice." All media is bullshit covers for a lie. 2 Link to comment
datzenmike Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 Who the fuck knows??? I doubt the 'powers that be' really would allow an unbreakable encryption device to exist that they couldn't access. Get real... they monitor all, I mean ALL, electronics that go through satellites, always have, always will. Is your phone private? Mostly, and not easy or worth hacking unless you are important enough to warrant 'looking into.' Is it easy?, hell no! The loss of a small amount of privacy is a small price to pay for some security. Think about it... If that phone had good intel on it that could be mined the 'others' would be covering their tracks right now and in the future. By maintaining the illusion that the encryption is still unbreakable would allow security forces an edge over 'them'. Just like the code breakers in WW II solving the breakable Enigma machine. So this charade will play itself out and fail. Citizens will thump their chests and proclaim a victory for 'liberty' and against oppressive/intrusive government. Apple's shares go up... blah blah blah.... and we go on. While this quote may be Ben's... and it's cute and all, but .... it's hundreds of years out of date. We're talking encryption/Privacy on communication devices here not Liberty. The telegraph wasn't invented until after Ben. If you want privacy you'll just have to share it with those that will use it to hurt you too. Link to comment
Burabuda Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 ^ to add to that, it's known in the tech circles that most of the new technology implemented by private corporations was first developed in the public sector. yes, with your taxpayer dollars in other words Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 No Mike, it's plain invasion of privacy if all they have to do to open your phone is punch a few codes from their super computers without a court order.....oh and here's a bonus.....the rest of the hacking crews around the world will too be able to access your phone.....I mean....we all know how safe those government puters are.......or you forgot that?, want some perv turning on your phone cam and mic while you're getting frisky with your wifey and have that video go on some porn site???? It's simple, open a back door for government to acces....so will the hackers that break in to government puters every day.... Link to comment
datzenmike Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 Read again. I said they probably already have access and are being disingenuous by bringing in the FBI to make it look unbreakable to the forces of evil. So your privacy is already a myth and you don't even know it... but feel free to believe it as part of your security blanket. I don't have a phone, never have, probably never will, don't care. Only thing that is private is your own thoughts...... I think. If... IF there is a totally ultimate, privacy encryption, and it exists on phones, then it works for evil doers against you as well. How's that feel? That's the ultimate invasion of privacy. 1 Link to comment
Draker Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 You have to understand what they actually want Apple to do. The device is encrypted.. Even with the most super-ist super computer in the world, you won't break that encryption. Sorry, not happening. A much easier attack vector is to simply guess the pin to unlock the phone. The problem is, if you enter the pin too many times, the phone is locked out, or wiped. By design of course... What the FBI would like them to do, is change the iOS to disable this functionality and allow them to brute force the user pin for the device and unlock the phone that way. This is done by writing a firmware update for the specific phone and applying. All updates have to be signed by Apple or it will be rejected by the phone. Apple is the only one with this key, and they are the only one that can publish code for these devices. By design.. 2 Link to comment
Draker Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 To Mike's point, the data passing through the device to the internet, and all call logs, and voice traffic, GPS location... yeah not as private as you are lead to believe. But that's data that leave the phone and monitored elsewhere. 1 Link to comment
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