racerx Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 Huh? Never meant to demonize, stating facts. If not statistics and if you have travelled a lot, you will see how we consume much more than others. Back in the 80s, I travelled throughout Europe and Germany was already not using plastic bags, in Asian countries, where i also travelled, they used and recycle everything. I also observed that each state in the USA, people are are different, like I was stationed in Maine and people consumed less than Californians. Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 I stated facts too, I also find it hard to believe that 300m people consume more than 1.3b that's hard to believe, where does that "fact" come from?, What is the source?, Is it from the same people who made up the global warming scam? Link to comment
racerx Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 /\...yep, hard to believe. 1 Link to comment
tr8er Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 oh and by the way, did you two know that Americans are the most responsible stewards of this planet?, Ya throw that into your "statistics" SMH What? Really? That really didn't look like satire. U.S. Citizens, Corporations, Government, nor other entities, are NOT the most responsible stewards of the planet. We are not even close to negating our impact. Where the hell are you gleening this information? 1 Link to comment
racerx Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 So if Americans, are the most responsible stewards in the planet, what happened at Flint, camp Lejeune, or the ponds and creeks by my house. They are all contaminated. And lots of land in Silicon Valley has been tested and proven to have high levels of contaminants...no I'm no bleeding heart liberal or from fake news or fake stats. Link to comment
bananahamuck Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 My cousin said there's alot of cheap properties in Picher Oklahoma,, thinking of moving the family there. Was considering Miami Oklahoma but the bright yellow streams are a kind of a turnoff for the wife. :rofl: . 1 Link to comment
DaBlist Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 KoHearts you ship me your 510 and RaceX you ship me your 65 Fastback and we'll all forget any of this happened Link to comment
paradime Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 KoHearts you ship me your 510 and RaceX you ship me your 65 Fastback and we'll all forget any of this happened That's the fact jack. Link to comment
racerx Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 I can ship u a hotwheel version. Actually, I m planning on selling my 65 fb mustang in the near future. Don't need anymore. 1 Link to comment
DaBlist Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 I m planning on selling my 65 fb mustang in the near future. Don't need anymore. If I can talk my daughter into dropping out of college I'll get back to you 2 Link to comment
racerx Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 Good luck with that one. My son will eventually go and that's part of the reason why I'm selling it. Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 So if Americans, are the most responsible stewards in the planet, what happened at Flint, camp Lejeune, or the ponds and creeks by my house. They are all contaminated. And lots of land in Silicon Valley has been tested and proven to have high levels of contaminants...no I'm no bleeding heart liberal or from fake news or fake stats. Now compare that to every other country and what they don't do to minimize the impact of developing, and I am correct to say America does more to protect the environment than everyone else. 1 Link to comment
john510 Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 Now compare that to every other country and what they don't do to minimize the impact of developing, and I am correct to say America does more to protect the environment than everyone else. I somewhat agree with you but.... I work construction,one of the builders claims and advertises "we've gone green" They create open space preserves by leveling and regrading open space and then re-planting.WTF is that shit ? you didn't create anything,you destroyed it first.People buy it up.I do think this country for what it produces does a pretty good job of being clean but you won't ever get a treehugger to believe it. 1 Link to comment
racerx Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 /\, people buy into it because it feels good and they don't go beyond what is advertised. Tokenism. 2 Link to comment
Rhapakatui Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 I stated facts too, I also find it hard to believe that 300m people consume more than 1.3b that's hard to believe, where does that "fact" come from?, What is the source?, Is it from the same people who made up the global warming scam? Show me your numbers. If you're stating facts, then it's easy enough to show us a set of numbers. Maybe an amount of money spent on preservation of forests per capita, or a chart listing what countries produce the most pollution divided by what they spend on cleanup. If it's a scam, point me in the direction of the money trail. Who's gaining? Who's losing? What about the negatives of clean energy? I'd use NOAA as a source. They have hard numbers on temperatures and atmosphere composition going back decades. Link to comment
racerx Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 KO, u asked me to compare America with the rest of the world as far as its ability to protect the environment, where should I get the summary and data? Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 Show me your numbers. If you're stating facts, then it's easy enough to show us a set of numbers. Maybe an amount of money spent on preservation of forests per capita, or a chart listing what countries produce the most pollution divided by what they spend on cleanup. If it's a scam, point me in the direction of the money trail. Who's gaining? Who's losing? What about the negatives of clean energy? I'd use NOAA as a source. They have hard numbers on temperatures and atmosphere composition going back decades. Numbers are easily manipulated to get the results you want, if Al Gore was right then today NY would be 20 feet under sea water and all the polar ice wouldn't exist, him and his buddies manipulated the NOAA data to get the computer simulation results to push their agenda and now you're going to trust the NOAA??? LOL!, It was all a scam to enrich the elites who prey on our fears for profit, all of them live in 10k square foot mansions and fly around in private jets laughing at us while plotting their next scam....like climate change and the bullshit liesmaking you believe that somehow you can reverse the planet's natural process, that's mighty godly if you ask me, it's the planet's natural cycle, you cannot stop it, everything will change, the planet is fine like George Carlin said, we are fucked up! Link to comment
thisismatt Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 but the bright yellow streams are a kind of a turnoff for the wife. :rofl: . That's not what she said... 2 Link to comment
Rhapakatui Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 Numbers are easily manipulated to get the results you want, if Al Gore was right then today NY would be 20 feet under sea water and all the polar ice wouldn't exist, him and his buddies manipulated the NOAA data to get the computer simulation results to push their agenda and now you're going to trust the NOAA??? LOL!, It was all a scam to enrich the elites who prey on our fears for profit, all of them live in 10k square foot mansions and fly around in private jets laughing at us while plotting their next scam....like climate change and the bullshit liesmaking you believe that somehow you can reverse the planet's natural process, that's mighty godly if you ask me, it's the planet's natural cycle, you cannot stop it, everything will change, the planet is fine like George Carlin said, we are fucked up! Then manipulate them for me. You know the path to truth better than anyone. Teach me. Link to comment
racerx Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 /\....KO, we can at least agree that numbers can be manipulated to serve ones purpose as you stated. So point me to an article that is unbiased that demonstrate that America is doing a pretty good job, as compared to the rest of the world, of protecting the environment. Link to comment
240zness Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 NOAA employees now have to sign non disclosure.. so you know 2 Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 /\....KO, we can at least agree that numbers can be manipulated to serve ones purpose as you stated. So point me to an article that is unbiased that demonstrate that America is doing a pretty good job, as compared to the rest of the world, of protecting the environment. Why should I waste my time with that?, I've been to 3rd world countries and all over the US from coast to coast, I reported what I saw and see with my own eyes, not what some article has to say. Link to comment
racerx Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 Cuz u did say make a comparison,right? And how did u find out about Al Gore's house, you read it, yes? Link to comment
paradime Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 Don't argue Racer, KO is the world authority on subjective reality. 2 Link to comment
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