destruction of america

[thisismatt]

6 minutes ago, jbirds510 said:

Yeah well in less than 50 years well all be dead and robots will rule the world. Go work on your cars guys. 

 

I might technically still be alive I'm 50 years...God forbid

[Dguy210]

45 minutes ago, jbirds510 said:

Yeah well in less than 50 years well all be dead and robots will rule the world. Go work on your cars guys. 

Well if the robots are made by Apple or Microsoft I say we got a good 3 months of them ruling until the first update comes along and they all go to shit.

[Mattndew76]

5 minutes ago, Dguy210 said:

Well if the robots are made by Apple or Microsoft I say we got a good 3 months of them ruling until the first update comes along and they all go to shit.

 

Battery intentionally bricked.

[a.d._510_n_ok]

 

26-year-old arrested in connection with Sacramento mass shooting, police chief says

 

https://www.kcra.com/article/sacramento-shooting-arrest-downtown-k-street-police/39629724

[paradime]

1 hour ago, jbirds510 said:

Yeah lol folding pocket knives for defense..probably get better results from a dirt clod. 
 

 

You do realized they make pocket knives with locking blades now, right? Beside, it's next to impossible to carve an apple with a dirt clod. Trust me, I've tried.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited April 5, 2022 by paradime

[Jesse C.]

1 hour ago, jbirds510 said:

Yeah well in less than 50 years well all be dead and robots will rule the world. Go work on your cars guys. 

 

Not without a fight! 

 

[datzenmike]

I grew up in the Cold War and in 50 years we'd all be dead and cockroaches would rule the world.

[paradime]

4 hours ago, datzenmike said:

 

I've met a few people that ended up eventually showing their religious side. Gives me the creeps having someone that has given up his common sense, logic and free will so close.... course it could just be Satan riding on my back and channeling through me. 

 

 

It's funny how psychology uses the term Magical Thinking to describe someone who believes in invisible powers, mythical creature are real, and that someone or something has control of their lives. Then the same psychologists tell them religion can play a large part in their healing process. Mixed messages, or passive aggressive table turning, you decide. Why can't a person have as much faith in their own personal religion? Maybe we should start medicating people in organized religious and see how that goes...

[datzenmike]

I wouldn't belong to any organized religion that would have me for a member.

[thisismatt]

Mike...

 

 

[jbirds510]

7 minutes ago, datzenmike said:

I grew up in the Cold War and in 50 years we'd all be dead and cockroaches would rule the world.

Yeah well i grew up a little later in the “forever war” and we still haven’t ruled out the cockroaches. No doubt AI will have no interest 😂
 

[frankendat]

On 4/2/2022 at 7:56 PM, paradime said:

Oh good lord, more gender issues?

 

Okay,  as a red blooded heteronormative adult who struggled to live and let live out here on the mean streets of Bay Area CA, I'll admit I'm getting pretty F'n tired of being stereotyped as the fabled toxic male by ignorant misinformed hyper PC all woke up and utterly closed minded Gen XYZ warriors who want me to sit quiet so they can use me as a punching bag, Although I understand their animosity, I take deviant pleasure in twisting them into cute little balloon animals with their own gaseous logic. In all fairness though, I've done the same thing to hyper PC "patriotic conservative" warriors who expect me to be their punching bag. The extreme R n L waste valuable time and energy pointlessly intrenched in idiot-no-logical warfare that goes nowhere.

 

Come on guys, none of the confused self-absorbed gender agnostic perverts you're worrying about are going to reproduce, so have faith in Darwin's survival of the fittest, and learn to live and let die. 

 

 

 

Shit damn I need a proof reader

 

Since all members of my family have opted out of breeding, I have no dog in this fight. Unfortunately or fortunately, in the USA parents are given deference to twist the minds of their offspring as they see fit. But, I am annoyed with the acceptance, of both political parties and many of my peers, that repetition of a theory or proposition is demonstrative of veracity. I mention it here (and am sure have mentioned it here on prior occasion), because even in polite conversation, opposing repetitive truth, leads to attack and demonization. Science has yet to demonstrate the ability to predict ANY preference, aside from biological imperatives. And biological imperatives could be the best argument. As of now, there are no indicators which decisively raise or lower the odds, of one preference over another, (some indicators might, but nothing worth betting on). But, in attempt at being my own devil's advocate, what if the increase of preferences divergent from procreation are deep rooted in DNA. Human beings are an "intelligent" species that refuses to adjust or limit breeding, in recognition of dwindling resources. In the natural world the less intelligent an organism the more prolific that organism, but as an organism gains intelligence, procreation adjusts. Consciously, humans defy that rule. What if below the conscious, below the subconscious, written into the dna is a shift away from procreation, in response to over population? How might that shift manifest? The "male of the United States" is the most recent successful procreator, and appears to be following the model of opulence and debauchery,leading to the downfall of the preceding dominant procreators, the Romans. I am not enough of a historian to know if the circumstances surrounding Genghis Khan involved non procreation sex, but according to Discover Magazine, Khan had so much procreative sex that 1 of every 200 people (in 2003) were his direct descendants. That's a man compensating for something.

[paradime]

4 hours ago, frankendat said:

Since all members of my family have opted out of breeding, I have no dog in this fight. Unfortunately or fortunately, in the USA parents are given deference to twist the minds of their offspring as they see fit. But, I am annoyed with the acceptance, of both political parties and many of my peers, that repetition of a theory or proposition is demonstrative of veracity. I mention it here (and am sure have mentioned it here on prior occasion), because even in polite conversation, opposing repetitive truth, leads to attack and demonization. Science has yet to demonstrate the ability to predict ANY preference, aside from biological imperatives. And biological imperatives could be the best argument. As of now, there are no indicators which decisively raise or lower the odds, of one preference over another, (some indicators might, but nothing worth betting on). But, in attempt at being my own devil's advocate, what if the increase of preferences divergent from procreation are deep rooted in DNA. Human beings are an "intelligent" species that refuses to adjust or limit breeding, in recognition of dwindling resources. In the natural world the less intelligent an organism the more prolific that organism, but as an organism gains intelligence, procreation adjusts. Consciously, humans defy that rule. What if below the conscious, below the subconscious, written into the dna is a shift away from procreation, in response to over population? How might that shift manifest? The "male of the United States" is the most recent successful procreator, and appears to be following the model of opulence and debauchery,leading to the downfall of the preceding dominant procreators, the Romans. I am not enough of a historian to know if the circumstances surrounding Genghis Khan involved non procreation sex, but according to Discover Magazine, Khan had so much procreative sex that 1 of every 200 people (in 2003) were his direct descendants. That's a man compensating for something.

 

Interesting take on our collective unconscious possibly being scripted towards amorality in order to self regulate human overpopulation. Thanks for expanding on this.

 

Dguy210 is our resident biologist around here, maybe he can speak to the reproductive trends for passing on less of the dominant population's DNA part. 

 

Sexual ambiguity, homosexual non-procreative sex, and man child sexual perversion has been a constant throughout time and around the world. Although rarely acknowledged, our American heteronormative man on top get it over with quick sexual norms have their roots in good old fashion crazy ass witch burning mind f**k Puritanism. Many pilgrims came here trying to get away from what they saw as the amoral humanistic cultural renaissance. It changed European consciousness and threatened their pure dark age souls.

 

400 years later, we think our baby boom shag fest during the 60s-80s was rock'n. Dude, it was Sunday school tame compared to Ancient Egypt, Greece, Rome, or what Marco Polo saw on his extended Kublai Khan vacations in the 13th century. In the grand scheme of things, we're still viewing all this gender fluidity stuff from a pretty darn prudish perspective. I'm not suggesting America should cross Dguy's line in the sand and go full NAMBLA, but it would appear the more a society tries to strictly enforce a narrow form of morality, the more deviant and amoral that society becomes. I see it as kind of like Newton's third law: For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. The only logical response I have for all these attention seeking self-indulgent gender benders is to live and let die. Once these kids grow up and actually realize what their parens did to them, I'm going to make a fortune in my private practice. 

 

[jbirds510]

Nothing new under the sun..not even the new normal is so new. Politics is just a tool for division. And recent subjects are less about changing society as much as distract them from the changes that we ALL fund left right right center straight and alternative.
 

https://youtu.be/mlNfDBAPIYQ

 

This is 12 years old. Good for a laugh.

[Jesse C.]

17 hours ago, paradime said:

 

It's funny how psychology uses the term Magical Thinking to describe someone who believes in invisible powers, mythical creature are real, and that someone or something has control of their lives. Then the same psychologists tell them religion can play a large part in their healing process. Mixed messages, or passive aggressive table turning, you decide. Why can't a person have as much faith in their own personal religion? Maybe we should start medicating people in organized religious and see how that goes...

 

Honestly, I think most religious types are already self medicating. 

 

[a.d._510_n_ok]

'Why now?': Durbin skeptical about timing of Hawley child sex offenders bill 

 

Sen. Dick Durbin on Tuesday objected to Sen. Josh Hawley's proposed legislation seeking tougher sentences for child pornography offenders, asking, "Why now?" as senators prepare for a confirmation vote later this week over Supreme Court nominee Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson.

 

"I know why. He said as much," Durbin said. "This senator has suggested over the course of the last two weeks and hearings before the Senate Judiciary Committee that somehow this judge ... aspiring to the Supreme Court is out of the mainstream when it comes to sentencing in child pornography cases."

 

Durbin's sharp response came after Hawley, a Republican senator from Missouri, requested unanimous consent over his PROTECT Act of 2022, legislation he introduced last week to set five-year mandatory minimum sentences for child pornography offenders. The legislation was modeled after a similar bill that passed 84-0 in 2003. 

 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/why-now-durbin-skeptical-about-timing-of-hawley-child-sex-offenders-bill

[datzenmike]

1 hour ago, Jesse C. said:

 

Honestly, I think most religious types are already self medicating. 

 

 

 

God is beyond measure in wanton malice, and matchless in his irony.

[iceman510]

13 hours ago, paradime said:

Once these kids grow up and actually realize what their parents did to them, I'm going to make a fortune in my private practice.

 

 

And how will you actually help any of them?

[frankendat]

13 hours ago, paradime said:

 

Interesting take on our collective unconscious possibly being scripted towards amorality in order to self regulate human overpopulation. Thanks for expanding on this.

 

Dguy210 is our resident biologist around here, maybe he can speak to the reproductive trends for passing on less of the dominant population's DNA part. 

 

Sexual ambiguity, homosexual non-procreative sex, and man child sexual perversion has been a constant throughout time and around the world. Although rarely acknowledged, our American heteronormative man on top get it over with quick sexual norms have their roots in good old fashion crazy ass witch burning mind f**k Puritanism. Many pilgrims came here trying to get away from what they saw as the amoral humanistic cultural renaissance. It changed European consciousness and threatened their pure dark age souls.

 

400 years later, we think our baby boom shag fest during the 60s-80s was rock'n. Dude, it was Sunday school tame compared to Ancient Egypt, Greece, Rome, or what Marco Polo saw on his extended Kublai Khan vacations in the 13th century. In the grand scheme of things, we're still viewing all this gender fluidity stuff from a pretty darn prudish perspective. I'm not suggesting America should cross Dguy's line in the sand and go full NAMBLA, but it would appear the more a society tries to strictly enforce a narrow form of morality, the more deviant and amoral that society becomes. I see it as kind of like Newton's third law: For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. The only logical response I have for all these attention seeking self-indulgent gender benders is to live and let die. Once these kids grow up and actually realize what their parens did to them, I'm going to make a fortune in my private practice. 

 

As anecdotal to your "Newton" comparison, church youth groups and church summer camp provided opportunity for my first experience with hard alcohol, the loss of my virginity and my first experience with drugs. So, as a supportive environment for personal growth, yay church!  

[frankendat]

9 minutes ago, iceman510 said:

 

And how will you actually help any of them?

When a thick body, big shoulder, square jawed woman, who is unable to be a mother and has battled acceptance (both self and societal) discovers that her parents cut off her cock, when she was a toddler, because she liked to dance and loved The Wizard of OZ, at the very least she'll need someone to lend an ear.

[Dguy210]

14 hours ago, paradime said:

 

Interesting take on our collective unconscious possibly being scripted towards amorality in order to self regulate human overpopulation. Thanks for expanding on this.

 

Dguy210 is our resident biologist around here, maybe he can speak to the reproductive trends for passing on less of the dominant population's DNA part. 

 

Sexual ambiguity, homosexual non-procreative sex, and man child sexual perversion has been a constant throughout time and around the world. Although rarely acknowledged, our American heteronormative man on top get it over with quick sexual norms have their roots in good old fashion crazy ass witch burning mind f**k Puritanism. Many pilgrims came here trying to get away from what they saw as the amoral humanistic cultural renaissance. It changed European consciousness and threatened their pure dark age souls.

 

400 years later, we think our baby boom shag fest during the 60s-80s was rock'n. Dude, it was Sunday school tame compared to Ancient Egypt, Greece, Rome, or what Marco Polo saw on his extended Kublai Khan vacations in the 13th century. In the grand scheme of things, we're still viewing all this gender fluidity stuff from a pretty darn prudish perspective. I'm not suggesting America should cross Dguy's line in the sand and go full NAMBLA, but it would appear the more a society tries to strictly enforce a narrow form of morality, the more deviant and amoral that society becomes. I see it as kind of like Newton's third law: For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. The only logical response I have for all these attention seeking self-indulgent gender benders is to live and let die. Once these kids grow up and actually realize what their parens did to them, I'm going to make a fortune in my private practice. 

 

 

 

Increasing standards of living lead to reduced numbers of offspring as those offspring have a higher chance of surviving to reproductive age. The switch from R to more K-like strategies allowing for better resource utilization. Humans are sort of weird already for a bunch of biological reasons, one being our long (relative to other mammals) adolescence. From what I've read on looking into more primitive societies once the kids hit about 5ish or so they do actually start being a net boon in resource gathering though (from memory, I believe it was looking at mostly Amazonian tribes where jungle resource gathering may vary from other areas).

 

I won't disagree that what is considered "normal" with regards to age of consent, sexuality, etc... is very much a product of culture. But I would state that is for the MINORITY aspects of that culture. Biologically, humans are very much driven to semi-monogamous/sequentially monogamous pair bonding.

 

So yes, many ancient cultures had a whole range things going on, "third genders", sexual practices with minors etc.. but that was not the AVERAGE MAJORITY practice for any large civilization (I'm sure there is a at least one outlier, and not the Mongols this time, or some very small or isolated tribal community). The MAJORITY practice for most of human society has been some form of male/female pair bonding in a somewhat closed relationship. Humans however biologically, ARE driven by multiple male partners competing for the same female during reproduction (evolutionarily I mean, example: the shape of human penis and it's size compared to body size).    

 

To sum up: while there has always been outliers on the bell curve for any of these aspects the center has always been male/female pair bonding due to very strong biological drives. 

 

"but it would appear the more a society tries to strictly enforce a narrow form of morality, the more deviant and amoral that society becomes."

 

I'm not sure I agree with that statement, but I'm not sure if it is actually testable either for a whole bunch of reasons. My opinion on it is: The more "crazy/perverse/etc..." you get as you deviate from that central peak is may really driven by the increase in population size seen with civilization (minimal number of participants likely or other size dependent effects). I'd make a reference to the Rat Utopia experiments, but they are overplayed and in my mind not as directly comparable to humans as some people would like. In short, if in a small village you are the "weird creepy dude" you probably just keep it quiet or don't come back from the woods one day when you piss off the wrong person.

[datzenmike]

Carried further, if you are the 'weird creepy dude' in a large megalopolis then you will not be as noticeable because people tend to mind their own business, more permissive and they have probably seen several like you around and have become more desensitized to your weirdness. Large population centers are not what we evolved for. Smaller groups won't put up with 'creepy guy' and would weed him out. 

[paradime]

2 hours ago, iceman510 said:

 

And how will you actually help any of them?

 

It was an anecdotal statement making a joke about the growing number of sexually displaced adolescents today.

 

I'm a Client Centered Psychodynamic therapist, so my roll is to be the Friday to the client's Dr. Livingston. I assist them in discovering who they really are, and why they hate their parents. Unresolved issues stemming from making the transition from child to adult are often the root cause of anxiety, and depression disorders.

 

For millennia, societies have helped adolescents join the community of adults via some type of initiation process, usually involving mystical/spiritual knowledge, practical hunting/gathering knowledge, and exploration of self identity. To our detriment, modern societies basically enable kids in figuring it out for themselves. Today, parents hold fewer and fewer boundaries than the previous generation who are overcompensating for their own Mommy Daddy issues. It's a vicious tornado of dysfunction, and these days it's the rare parent who breaks the cycle.

Edited April 6, 2022 by paradime

[thisismatt]

24 minutes ago, paradime said:

 

It was an anecdotal statement making a joke about the growing number of sexually displaced adolescents today.

 

I'm a Client Centered Psychodynamic therapist, so my roll is to be the Friday to the client's Dr. Livingston. I assist them in discovering who they really are, and why they hate their parents. Unresolved issues stemming from making the transition from child to adult are often the root cause of anxiety, and depression disorders.

 

For millennia, societies have helped adolescents join the community of adults via some type of initiation process, usually involving mystical/spiritual knowledge, practical hunting/gathering knowledge, and exploration of self identity. To our detriment, modern societies basically enable kids in figuring it out for themselves. Today, parents hold fewer and fewer boundaries than the previous generation who are overcompensating for their own Mommy Daddy issues. It's a vicious tornado of dysfunction, and these days it's the rare parent who breaks the cycle.

 

When can I start my sessions?

[frankendat]

1 hour ago, thisismatt said:

 

When can I start my sessions?

Start? I am worried about the about the bill.