paradime Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Shit's gett'n real in Oregon.http://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2016/01/176622/150-armed-men-seize-us-federal-building-in-oregon-stand-against-government/ I totally get why Oregon might be pissed, but what's up with this guy Ammon Bundy from Nevada? How is it his business to come from his State to lead a protest against the Fed's jurisdiction over Federal land in the State of Oregon? If he's protecting State's sovereignty, shouldn't he let Oregon militia drive this bus? I may be ignorant, but I don't see Oregon folk as followers. Am I missing something here. Quote Link to comment
tr8er Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Engineering is a way of predicting results. The backbone of all engineering is recording real world results. Often those results are failures. Recording history. This is the fundamental element that drove our species to the monstrosity we are today. Quote Link to comment
paradime Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 WTF? Put down the electronics and move back into caves? Without recording history, we would still be hitting each other over the head with clubs. Come to think of it, we are still hitting each other over the head with clubs, because we interpret history to meet our own selfish needs. That's what fucks everything up. Damned if you do, damned if you do something different. Holy shit, I feel myself becoming a nihilist. Quote Link to comment
maltese Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Whoa, whoa, whoa! This is Ratsun. You can't be using big words like nihilist. Now I have to Google it's definition. 2 Quote Link to comment
tr8er Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 We ARE selfish beings. The problem arose when we gained the ability to affect on a macro scale. We should be eating, fucking, playing. Actually, we should be extinct. But we are not so.... Datsun. (Willard?) 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Post 679 (can't quote at work) The enemy of my enemy is my friend. The only thing needed for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Also you are not from Oregon... so.... 1 Quote Link to comment
paradime Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Shit's gett'n real in Oregon. http://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2016/01/176622/150-armed-men-seize-us-federal-building-in-oregon-stand-against-government/ I totally get why Oregon might be pissed, but what's up with this guy Ammon Bundy from Nevada? How is it his business to come from his State to lead a protest against the Fed's jurisdiction over Federal land in the State of Oregon? If he's protecting State's sovereignty, shouldn't he let Oregon militia drive this bus? I may be ignorant, but I don't see Oregon folk as followers. Am I missing something here. Post 679 (can't quote at work) The enemy of my enemy is my friend. The only thing needed for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Also you are not from Oregon... so.... You missed my point completely... so .... How in the hell did you get that I was saying "do nothing"? I'm saying let Oregon rise up and speak for themselves. You want a quote? Freedom from tyranny is thinking for yourself, not choosing another form of tyranny to replace it. And no, I'm not speaking for them, I'm sharing an observation. But now that you mention it, I am closer to Oregon than you, or Bundy... so.... Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Lets see... California is minding it's own business by telling Nevada to mind it's own business because Oregon is incapable of taking care of it's own business? Quote Link to comment
MicroMachinery Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 But now that you mention it, I am closer to Oregon than you, or Bundy... so.... 2 Quote Link to comment
paradime Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Lets see... California is minding it's own business by telling Nevada to mind it's own business because Oregon is incapable of taking care of it's own business? Arguing with you is like trying to put sox on an octopus. As I'm trying to get information about this Nevada guy taking front stage in Oregon, you're stuffing words in my mouth like a Fox News hit man. RELAX, I'm not telling anyone to do anything Mike. For once, can you PLEASE let someone who knows something about this shed some light on what's up? 1 Quote Link to comment
Mattndew76 Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/01/03/full-story-on-whats-going-on-in-oregon-militia-take-over-malheur-national-wildlife-refuge-in-protest-to-hammond-family-persecution/ 1 Quote Link to comment
Mattndew76 Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Read the story on the link i just posted and you can get some of the back history of what the stand off is about. So far mainstream has painted the issue as a radical extremism. Read up and be your own judge. I support what these people are doing for the family involved. 4 Quote Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 I see this as more of the same...fucking government being dictators instead of democracy, good for the brave men standing for their rights, I hope it gains traction and more people join them in the fight against our dictators in the federal government. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Holy fuck Matt we're on the same side of the fence?????? 2 Quote Link to comment
Mattndew76 Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Its not uncommon to be of the same opinion at times and differ on others. 2 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 So who is this quote to be applied too? The people standing up for their rights or the government? You want a quote? Freedom from tyranny is thinking for yourself, not choosing another form of tyranny to replace it. The Hammond family needs a friend and have found it in the Cliven Bundy family who have stood up against evil. So this is even more relevant.... The enemy of my enemy is my friend. The only thing needed for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Here is a really old one... Elected government should fear it's people, people should not fear their elected government. 1 Quote Link to comment
Mattndew76 Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 These people will be painted with the biggest shit smear brush the TV can muster. I feel sad for the outcome.......I pessimize that this will end badly, and be used for a political rally cry against the people of like minds. Pessimize is not a real word......yet. Quote Link to comment
john510 Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Holy shit what a trainwreck this has become. Quote Link to comment
Rhapakatui Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Arguing with you is like trying to put sox on an octopus. As I'm trying to get information about this Nevada guy taking front stage in Oregon, you're stuffing words in my mouth like a Fox News hit man. RELAX, I'm not telling anyone to do anything Mike. For once, can you PLEASE let someone who knows something about this shed some light on what's up? New signature. Thanks! 1 Quote Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 These people will be painted with the biggest shit smear brush the TV can muster. I feel sad for the outcome.......I pessimize that this will end badly, and be used for a political rally cry against the people of like minds. Pessimize is not a real word......yet. Because the media has become for the government and not the people. 2 Quote Link to comment
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