Draker Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 Also why wait 2 months to sound the alarm... 3 Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 Everyone and their grandmas wanted Comey out, now it's a "scandal" in the left POV :no: 2 Link to comment
Mattndew76 Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 Also why wait 2 months to sound the alarm... exactly. Even if there is a memo the House still doesn't have legal grounds to impeach. No crime was committed. A ton of people want to say this is like Nixon. Well then they have no idea why nixon was impeached. It wasn't because he fired FBI directors. He was impeached over false testimony about his involvement with the DNC breaking and entering. He was impeached for Obstruction (Wouldnt turn over WH tapes), Abuse of power (Ordering a DNC break in.), and contempt (Telling a lie under oath.) 4 Link to comment
tr8er Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 He doesn't need to directly break any law to be impeached. Not that I am calling for this action based on the grounds we face. But if they pull it off, I hope they are ready to impeach Pence. His religious self righteousness scares the hell out of me. I always thought that was a great defensive move of Trumps to but him as his would be predecessor. "The problem is that the grounds for impeachment specified in the Constitution at Art. II Sec. 4, "Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors", is not limited to criminal offenses against which there are laws. The phrase "high crimes and misdemeanors", as explained by Ann Coulter in her recent book entitled High Crimes and Misdemeanors, is a term of art that includes many offenses that are not criminally or civilly actionable but are, nevertheless, grounds for impeachment and removal from office. Many of those grounds survive today only in the Uniform Code of Military Justice, and include such things as dereliction of duty, moral turpitude, and conduct unbecoming which can adversely affect good order and discipline and bring discredit to the person, his office, his organization, and his country." -Jon Roland, Constitution Society 2 Link to comment
Mattndew76 Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 He doesn't need to directly break any law to be impeached. Not that I am calling for this action based on the grounds we face. But if they pull it off, I hope they are ready to impeach Pence. His religious self righteousness scares the hell out of me. I always thought that was a great defensive move of Trumps to but him as his would be predecessor. "The problem is that the grounds for impeachment specified in the Constitution at Art. II Sec. 4, "Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors", is not limited to criminal offenses against which there are laws. The phrase "high crimes and misdemeanors", as explained by Ann Coulter in her recent book entitled High Crimes and Misdemeanors, is a term of art that includes many offenses that are not criminally or civilly actionable but are, nevertheless, grounds for impeachment and removal from office. Many of those grounds survive today only in the Uniform Code of Military Justice, and include such things as dereliction of duty, moral turpitude, and conduct unbecoming which can adversely affect good order and discipline and bring discredit to the person, his office, his organization, and his country." -Jon Roland, Constitution Society I would find it hard for a 2/3 majority to conclude on any of those. The backlash already would spell doom for them politically. Trump derives power from his base, and both the senate and the house fear this. Regardless of what the mainstream says. Trump is far more popular then they want to admit. (Want to Believe) 4 Link to comment
tr8er Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 I would find it hard for a 2/3 majority to conclude on any of those. The backlash already would spell doom for them politically. Trump derives power from his base, and both the senate and the house fear this. Regardless of what the mainstream says. Trump is far more popular then they want to admit. (Want to Believe) Agreed 1 Link to comment
a.d._510_n_ok Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 He doesn't need to directly break any law to be impeached. To paraphrase an old legal axiom, "You can impeach a ham sandwich". Now, getting a conviction that's an entirely different subject. Honestly, for the left to be screaming for impeachment this early in the game and over literally nothing smacks of desperation and appeasement of the more radical leftist base. The democrat/media complex is at this moment a five year old kid kicking and screaming in the floor of the breakfast cereal aisle because Mommy made him put back the Cookie Crisp in favor of Raisin Bran. It's loud and obnoxious but not much will come of it in the long run. Think about this: whenever you hear about a leak from the deep state ask yourself how many people knew that bit of information. If it's really secret then it's a small group of people who knew it. The leaking certainly hurts Trump but the leaker is opening himself up for discovery as well. Also, factor in the possibility that Trump may be "confiding" in suspects to see if the information only they could know is leaked. Link to comment
125 CSL Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 The funny,..not so funny part is it is all accusations. No evidence. Even after going on a year of looking for anything. 2 Link to comment
Draker Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 Reminder he was under oath when he said this. 3 Link to comment
Mattndew76 Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 The funny,..not so funny part is it is all accusations. No evidence. Even after going on a year of looking for anything. In today's info age it doesn't matter if it's factual or that anything really happened at all. Suggestion of something is all it takes to condemn anyone or hamstring them politically. Not enough people are vigilant with the information they need to develop an objective opinion. Since everything is convenient then information should be the same. Feed me Seymore 4 Link to comment
Mattndew76 Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 Reminder he was under oath when he said this. Not credible since it happened before he was fired. ;) Dems have no history unless they say so. 4 Link to comment
Draker Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 Except for the conversation in question reportedly took place in February when Mike Flynn was still a thing. Still not enough for the left. 1 Link to comment
Rhapakatui Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 But, I thought Comey got fired for being unfair to Hillary... Link to comment
tr8er Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 I would find it hard for a 2/3 majority to conclude on any of those. The backlash already would spell doom for them politically. Trump derives power from his base, and both the senate and the house fear this. Regardless of what the mainstream says. Trump is far more popular then they want to admit. (Want to Believe) I expect after midterm elections we will see the numbers needed to impeach. If there is a movement to do so at that point in the war. But all in, while I expect he is more popular than reported, I do believe he has the lowest approval rating of any president in recent history. Clinton dipped way low after getting head though. So he may get above that. I don't expect he will break past 50% approval unless he starts a war. And that he may... 1 Link to comment
racerx Posted May 18, 2017 Report Share Posted May 18, 2017 Lets see what Robert Mueller...getting my popcorn ready. 3 Link to comment
racerx Posted May 18, 2017 Report Share Posted May 18, 2017 Meant lets see what Robert Mueller does or find..... Link to comment
VFR800 Posted May 18, 2017 Report Share Posted May 18, 2017 Just be careful, I heard her brother is some sort of special forces bad ass. He will fuck you in the arse, hard! 1 Link to comment
Draker Posted May 18, 2017 Report Share Posted May 18, 2017 Meant lets see what Robert Mueller does or find..... Best of luck. 1 Link to comment
Draker Posted May 18, 2017 Report Share Posted May 18, 2017 Can anyone tell me why Mueller might not be the best person to investigate anything to do with Russia? 2 Link to comment
john510 Posted May 18, 2017 Report Share Posted May 18, 2017 He's not a Liberal and his findings will be biased ? 2 Link to comment
tr8er Posted May 18, 2017 Report Share Posted May 18, 2017 He's got a good history investigating cyber crime, and led the FBI. I think he's a logical choice. Do tell. 1 Link to comment
racerx Posted May 18, 2017 Report Share Posted May 18, 2017 Like I said...get your popcorn ready, this will b very interesting what Mueller does. Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted May 18, 2017 Report Share Posted May 18, 2017 Like I said...get your popcorn ready, this will b very interesting what Mueller does. Nothing that will please the blood thirsty blinded by hate leftists... 3 Link to comment
Draker Posted May 18, 2017 Report Share Posted May 18, 2017 Mueller himself has some interesting ties to Russia. Including hand delivering highly enriched uranium to them. 2 Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted May 18, 2017 Report Share Posted May 18, 2017 I bet that's why he was chosen, the trolling continues....lol 2 Link to comment
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