Cuz Merica

[john510]

Raised in LA and SD areas SoCal, moved to Oregon in April of 2k.

So your'e one of those Cali people fucking up Oregon ?  B) You city slicker.

[KoHeartsGPA]

So your'e one of those Cali people fucking up Oregon ? B) You city slicker.

LOL burn!

 

When i don't have anything major going on with my datto, i love going to the hills prospecting for gold, i love the outdoors :thumbup:

[Jesse C.]

I have only been to Oregon once, it was up to Eugene, it was really nice and I would like to visit again, but, I am a California/San Diegan and this is home. 

 

I don't blame folks for leaving and I wish them luck 

[john510]

I have only been to Oregon once, it was up to Eugene, it was really nice and I would like to visit again, but, I am a California/San Diegan and this is home. 

 

I don't blame folks for leaving and I wish them luck 

Oregon is beautiful,more Californians should go there.San Diego is home for me to,i can't imagine living somewhere else.

[tr8er]

Oregon is beautiful,more Californians should go there.San Diego is home for me to,i can't imagine living somewhere else.

San Diego is a great place

[datsunfreak]

I have only been to Oregon once, it was up to Eugene

 

Been there six times, been all over the state, and would move there tomorrow if my wife would let me.  ^_^

[datzenmike]

Yes, but still, prison time for words? 

 

So if I kill a gay person and I like gay people I'll get a shorter prison sentence than someone who kills a gay person because he hates gay people? 

 

I'm certainly not pro-hate speech by any means, but I'm not sure you should spend more time in jail for what you were thinking when you committed the crime. The person you killed is just as dead. 

 

This almost smacks of extra jail time for hurting someone's feelings, no? 

 

Unfortunately, the whole freedom of speech thing here in the US cuts both ways...

 

First it was hate propaganda against an identifiable group, not kids in the school yard calling someone a poo poo head. This 'propaganda' would be promoting hatred in others and punishable with up to 5 years in prison..

 

If you kill someone strictly because you hate them (say they are gay) you would be putting propaganda into practice and demonstrating and inciting others to do the same.

 

It not thinking hate, it's spreading it through propaganda or acts that incite others to do likewise. If you want to personally hate some group, go ahead but keep it to yourself and I wouldn't act on it either.

 

It's not just hurting someone's feelings. That's much too simplified. Think of hate crimes and hate propaganda as infringing on your human rights. 

 

"We hold these truths to be self evident that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."

[Draker]

Beware of jill steins recount. Targeting only swing states. They didn't rig it enough the first go around.. now they paid to take another shot at it.

 

Watch this one closely folks.

[Draker]

Funds were raised within 24 hours. One person reports it was growing at almost a constant rate of 160,000 an hour. Even through the late night hours. Almost exactly 160k an hour.

[tr8er]

Recounts are loads of fun.

[VFR800]

Recounts are loads of fun.

 

 

 

 

:rofl:  :rofl:

[VFR800]

"We hold these truths to be self evident that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."

 

 

Would've been more believable if they'd have held that standard up for native americans and the african slaves.

 

Guess the prevailing view at the time of those words being written that it was more of a figurative thing than a totally literal thing.

[a.d._510_n_ok]

[240zness]

First thanksgiving.. pretty sure history shows was a one time truce.

 

Shit was real f***** up back then

[240zness]

Little context VTR :)

 

 

Thanksgiving Proclamation

 

Issued by President George Washington, at the request of Congress, on October 3, 1789

 

By the President of the United States of America, a Proclamation.

 

Whereas it is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey His will, to be grateful for His benefits, and humbly to implore His protection and favor; and—Whereas both Houses of Congress have, by their joint committee, requested me “to recommend to the people of the United States a day of public thanksgiving and prayer, to be observed by acknowledging with grateful hearts the many and signal favors of Almighty God, especially by affording them an opportunity peaceably to establish a form of government for their safety and happiness:”

 

Now, therefore, I do recommend and assign Thursday, the 26th day of November next, to be devoted by the people of these States to the service of that great and glorious Being who is the beneficent author of all the good that was, that is, or that will be; that we may then all unite in rendering unto Him our sincere and humble thanks for His kind care and protection of the people of this country previous to their becoming a nation; for the signal and manifold mercies and the favor, able interpositions of His providence in the course and conclusion of the late war; for the great degree of tranquillity, union, and plenty which we have since enjoyed; for the peaceable and rational manner in which we have been enabled to establish constitutions of government for our safety and happiness, and particularly the national one now lately instituted; for the civil and religious liberty with which we are blessed, and the means we have of acquiring and diffusing useful knowledge; and, in general, for all the great and various favors which He has been pleased to confer upon us.

 

And also that we may then unite in most humbly offering our prayers and supplications to the great Lord and Ruler of Nations, and beseech Him to pardon our national and other trangressions; to enable us all, whether in public or private stations, to perform our several and relative duties properly and punctually; to render our National Government a blessing to all the people by constantly being a Government of wise, just, and constitutional laws, discreetly and faithfully executed and obeyed; to protect and guide all sovereigns and nations (especially such as have shown kindness to us), and to bless them with good governments, peace, and concord; to promote the knowledge and practice of true religion and virtue, and the increase of science among them and us; and, generally, to grant unto all mankind such a degree of temporal prosperity as He alone knows to be best.

 

Given under my hand at the City of New York the third day of October in the year of our Lord 1789.

 

Go. Washington

[VFR800]

^ 

 

Is this in relation to "all men created equal" thing? 

[240zness]

Yeah, too much?

[VFR800]

Well I don't see the connection of it to "all men created equal" who were then not treated equal or afforded  equal rights.

 

Thanksgiving is cause the native americans were kind (read dumb) enough to help the British religious nuts survive the winter in the North American Continent.

[RatVonDude]

Never really understood nor beleaved the Sioux or mohawk relation to stuffing your face with germ bags. Think its made up.

[240zness]

 

 

 

:rofl:  :rofl:

[KoHeartsGPA]

Funds were raised within 24 hours. One person reports it was growing at almost a constant rate of 160,000 an hour. Even through the late night hours. Almost exactly 160k an hour.

This has Soros written all over it...

[datzenmike]

This has Clinton Foundation written all over it...

[MikeRL411]

Well I don't see the connection of it to "all men created equal" who were then not treated equal or afforded  equal rights.

 

Thanksgiving is cause the native americans were kind (read dumb) enough to help the British religious nuts survive the winter in the North American Continent.

 

JUST REMEMBER!  Wheb the "Pilgrims" met Quantos, he spoke English!  Did your history teachers tell you that?  Because he was kidnaped as a child by English fishers and returned to England.  [Yes. there were Engllsh trespassers on the New England coast before the so called "Pilgrmins"]. Let's not speculate on his [Quanfo's] subsequent upgribringing, 'nufh to say he was glad to go "home" to what was left of his tribe.  I would speculate that the Native New Enland Native American reunion was a hell of a lot more enjoyable that the everight straighty laced Puritan Ethose of the original Pilgrim settelers! Or the "Reform Round Heads" of the Cromwell era! 

 

Or do I reveal the orsce of my objection or my ethiniicinty? "Sliant Gael!"

 

[VFR800]

Still doesn't connect anything to the original point of my quote about "all men being created equal" and the subsequent lack of actually doing so by the USA.

[a.d._510_n_ok]

it took 90 years but fidelito is now a good communist :)

 

 

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/26/americas/fidel-castro-obit/index.html