PH8A Fram filter

[racerx]

Heard that a PH8A fram filter, which is the same for my 65 mustang, can be used for my 71 Datsun 510, is this true?

[Bleach]

yes, PH8A is the proper sized Fram filter for the L-series engine. Works on the 620, and all the Z-cars with inline six.

 

that is, if you want to use the Fram brand filters. Are you sure about that?

[banzai510(hainz)]

yes they fit But I would avoid Fram filters.

[Farmer Joe]

please dont put a fram on it. at least get a supertech brand, or like a me, a motorcraft FL1A.

 

once again, friends dont let friends use fram!

[racerx]

Okay so they will fit but what's wrong with FRAM filters, I've never had any problems with them and have had lots of cars.

[Farmer Joe]

Okay so they will fit but what's wrong with FRAM filters, I've never had any problems with them and have had lots of cars.

 

do a google search for "fram failure pics" and the first thing thatll come up is a picture of a fram filter that was cut open to reveal the collapsed element inside. frams have cardboard internals that are very prone to failing.

[racerx]

What filter do you guys recommend? I do have one for Motorcraft but saving that one for the Mustang.

[Farmer Joe]

id just go for the motorcraft. i just picked one up for like 3 bux at walmart.

[benzo]

a thread was started by DTP on Fram filter issues and I just started to try out the napa gold filter and so far it is ok. can't notice anything from fram unless I was able to cut open but seeing cut out pics of filters shows the napa is a nicer made filter. try the napa filter or maybe Wix. not sure on motorcraft on hos well made they are.

[MAG58]

I use the wix equivalent to the PH8A, which is the 51515 (iirc). I can get them at the parts store for within a quarter of the fram filter, and its a pretty good filter.

[Skib]

I use Nappa Gold filters on everything.

 

most filters are fine, Fram is just garbage. :rolleyes:

[racerx]

Did some research and because of globalization and buy outs/mergers, I will assume that's one of the reasons why we are having QA/QC issue. Fram use to be good.

 

http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilters/reference.html#champion

[hang_510]

I've never had any problems with them and have had lots of cars.

never is a long time... not a long as it took for quality to be transfered out.

 

 

ive personally not had issues either, but i havent used one for many years either.

[denveratsun]

Here is the deal....filters are critical. You decide how much your engine is worth to you. Seen Fram filters detonate/implode/explode/seperate with my own eyes...4or5 different times. These are not "random" events. DO NOT RUN FRAM FILTERS

 

Check this link for a great run-down on lab-test,repeatable filter disections and QC issues.

 

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://people.msoe.edu/~yoderw/oilfilterstudy/images/filter-fram1.gif&imgrefurl=http://people.msoe.edu/~yoderw/oilfilterstudy/oilfilterstudy.html&usg=__e2U3f15SBU0vX7hziGaqspOcTzM=&h=195&w=240&sz=33&hl=en&start=42&itbs=1&tbnid=6MKVf8qoVLbioM:&tbnh=89&tbnw=110&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dfram%2Bfilter%2Bfailure%26start%3D21%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D21%26tbs%3Disch:1

[racerx]

Thanks for the input that's some good reading...even an STP is better than Fram..

[thisismatt]

<Beyonce>If you hate it then you shoulda put a Fram on it</Beyonce>

[datzenmike]

As Doug said: "The Fram filter is only good enough for putting on when you paint your block."

[chiquapen]

forget the fram!!! go with wix!!! :thumbup:

[510six]

please dont put a fram on it. at least get a supertech brand, or like a me, a motorcraft FL1A.

 

once again, friends dont let friends use fram!

 

 

+1 on the Motorcraft FL1A.

[Bleach]

Selling your car? Better get Macco and a Fram! :D

[HRH]

1515 Napa Gold, 40% off at your participating NAPA store this month!!! (Really)

[521Dave]

Fram was very good untill they were bought out a couple years back. Basically All paper type filters are crap, they all have a pressure relief valve that bypasses the filter alltogether and are pointless. If you really want a true oil filter get a cleanable one. There are a couple manufacturers out there that make them BTW true race cars and teams use them. Not what the "sponser" wants you to know.

Kool?!

[I'm BLUE]

1515 Napa Gold, 40% off at your participating NAPA store this month!!! (Really)

 

Good Tip !!! ggggeeeeeesssseee, I'll have to check that , although I live in oregon :D

[420n620]

1515 Napa Gold, 40% off at your participating NAPA store this month!!! (Really)

and you also get a NAPA racing hat with your purchase, the Fers forgot to give me mine, I spend like 45$ and no hat, basterds

[DanielC]

Just another voice telling you to go to walmart, and get some Motorcraft FL1-A oil filters for your Mustang and your Datsun.