KoHeartsGPA Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 It will get reduced to maybe 10 years and most likely house arrest....err....mansion arrest. 2 Link to comment
q-tip Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 He's a human piece of garbage for sure. 2 Link to comment
datzenmike Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 Remember he's getting time for screwing rich people out of getting richer, not for jacking prices on lifesaving medications up 700%. Remember OJ. Got away with double murder but got the book thrown at him for later lesser offenses. Fuck them both. 3 Link to comment
racerx Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 Didn't he raised the cost of the drug by 5,000 %? 1 Link to comment
q-tip Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 Didn't he raised the cost of the drug by 5,000 %? What ever it was it was a lot and it was perfectly legal to do so thus he didn't commit a crime and could not be punished for it thru the justice system. That was my point, it wasn't criminal until he messed with rich people's money then it's off to trial with you. 1 Link to comment
tr8er Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 What of the Wu Tang Album... 1 Link to comment
john510 Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 What ever it was it was a lot and it was perfectly legal to do so thus he didn't commit a crime and could not be punished for it thru the justice system. That was my point, it wasn't criminal until he messed with rich people's money then it's off to trial with you. Convicted of fraud because he took money from one of his own companies to repay investors.I read some of his investors actually made good money with him.The guy's a real piece of shit. 2 Link to comment
q-tip Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 You can't fix stupid. 1 Link to comment
paradime Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 Isn't that rational saying if the uninsured get sick their life should be terminated? If not, than isn't the "freedom" not to have insurance the same as forcing everyone else to pay for their healthcare? So in essence this is saying everyone should have the freedom to get single payer healthcare by opting out of healthcare. Kind of like passive aggressive socialism. Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 Before the ACA if you didn't have insurance and you ended up in the hospital, Medicaid would cover, nobody got declined, the only thing our system was lacking is basic care for people that couldn't afford insurance, I only paid $160 a month, the government came in and and fucked that up with the promise of getting "everyone" coverage, that was also a lie, and now insurance is ridiculously high and people that do qualify for ACA coverage are happy until they have to go get treatment for an illness and find out their deductable is thru the roof and cannot afford that, so in reality the only people that benefited from the ACA are the government (by collecting fines from people like me) and insurance companies (profiting from the influx of people getting signed up) My point is, government once again broke something in order to "fix it", it's what they do, break shit and offer a solution that will fail so it can be "fixed" as well, it is vicious cycle, very profitable at that, the bottom line and I guess my point under half of cup of coffee is, the elites aren't in the business of helping anyone unless they can profit, face it guys, we lost what our founding fathers gave us and we aren't going to get it back any time soon, that's my POV, my personal opinion. 2 Link to comment
paradime Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 Blatant white fear juxtaposition of these issues. So is this saying we should bread like rabbits and ignore the impact it has on the environment? The Industrial Revolution changed the relationship between humans and their environment. Even if we put global warming aside, in the passed 100 years the world population has quintupled, our natural resources have been decimated 40% of the Amazon rain forest, and over 70% of old growth forest in North America, oceans are 30% more acidic, and due to disease and industrial scale fishing, global fish populations are estimated at 30% of what it used to be a century ago. If we can't find sustainable solutions for uncontrolled population growth and it's OBVIOUS impact on the environment, our ecosystem on Earth is fucking toast. This shouldn't be ignored as a liberal cause just because we're comfortable eating processed foods in an air conditioned room. We are living in a technological revolution that could solve these problems right fucking NOW. Why don't we... we fear change. Link to comment
paradime Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 Before the ACA if you didn't have insurance and you ended up in the hospital, Medicaid would cover, nobody got declined, the only thing our system was lacking is basic care for people that couldn't afford insurance, I only paid $160 a month, the government came in and and fucked that up with the promise of getting "everyone" coverage, that was also a lie, and now insurance is ridiculously high and people that do qualify for ACA coverage are happy until they have to go get treatment for an illness and find out their deductable is thru the roof and cannot afford that, so in reality the only people that benefited from the ACA are the government (by collecting fines from people like me) and insurance companies (profiting from the influx of people getting signed up) My point is, government once again broke something in order to "fix it", it's what they do, break shit and offer a solution that will fail so it can be "fixed" as well, it is vicious cycle, very profitable at that, the bottom line and I guess my point under half of cup of coffee is, the elites aren't in the business of helping anyone unless they can profit, face it guys, we lost what our founding fathers gave us and we aren't going to get it back any time soon, that's my POV, my personal opinion. I hear you KO, the for profit healthcare system is rigged to make as much profit off of sick people as possible, but our healthcare system was broken long before the ACA. And yes Obama sure as hell didn't fix anything. From my late teens to my early 30s I was uninsured and just got lucky I didn't need it. With tens of millions uninsured though, it fucks the people who are paying for it. The insurance industry has forced general practice Dr.s onto a client visit treadmill that limits them to 13.5 minute face time per patient. Insurance is playing both sides of the field charging an ass load for shitty healthcare coverage and malpractice insurance for doctors who are limited to 13 minutes to examine and diagnose then need to charge more for assembly line care to cover those massive insurance premiums. These kinds of profiteering vicious loops are used to artificially inflate the costs/profits of healthcare. Next thing you know we're paying through the nose for a shit product that EVERYONE needs eventually. 1 Link to comment
a.d._510_n_ok Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 Trump Immigration Crackdown Leads to Higher Construction Wages President Donald Trump’s crackdown on illegal immigration is already having a positive impact on American workers through increased wages in the construction industry. In a new report by Fox News, Texas construction companies admitted that Trump’s increased enforcement of immigration was forcing them to pay higher wages to U.S. construction workers. Fox News reported: “Half of the workers in construction in Texas are undocumented,” [stan Marek, CEO of Marek Construction] said. “We do hear that there are a lot of undocumented workers that are leaving the state, going to other states that don’t have the anti-immigrant sentiment and many of them are going back to Mexico.” Ted Wilson with Residential Strategies, Inc. has run the numbers. “We’ve seen direct construction costs climb by over 30 percent,” Wilson said, “and a lot of that is directly attributed to what builders are having to pay their subs and trades in wages.” Meaning, with so few workers out there, construction companies have had to pay more to attract them, which adds to the cost of a home. The big business lobby and CEOs have long criticized Trump’s immigration crackdown, primarily because their businesses have a direct interest in keeping the pipeline of low-skilled foreign workers coming to the U.S. to drive down the cost of American wages. http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/08/06/trump-immigration-crackdown-leads-higher-construction-wages/ 1 Link to comment
paradime Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 Because new reports by Fox News and Breitbart aren't bias. Love the gif ani though. :thumbup: 2 Link to comment
paradime Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 On the bicentennial of our great nation I was entering junior high school and looked like I stepped off the set of the Brady Bunch. America will never be that great again. 2 Link to comment
john510 Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 I hear you KO, the for profit healthcare system is rigged to make as much profit off of sick people as possible, but our healthcare system was broken long before the ACA. And yes Obama sure as hell didn't fix anything. From my late teens to my early 30s I was uninsured and just got lucky I didn't need it. With tens of millions uninsured though, it fucks the people who are paying for it. The insurance industry has forced general practice Dr.s onto a client visit treadmill that limits them to 13.5 minute face time per patient. Insurance is playing both sides of the field charging an ass load for shitty healthcare coverage and malpractice insurance for doctors who are limited to 13 minutes to examine and diagnose then need to charge more for assembly line care to cover those massive insurance premiums. These kinds of profiteering vicious loops are used to artificially inflate the costs/profits of healthcare. Next thing you know we're paying through the nose for a shit product that EVERYONE needs eventually. Hold on there,the health insurance industry makes the money off of the healthy ones.My boss pays 900 a month for health insurance,his treatments for Myasthenia Gravis are 4 to 5 grand a month,at least.My payment a month is about 250 and i rarely use my health insurance.They make money off of me not him. 1 Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 Hold on there,the health insurance industry makes the money off of the healthy ones.My boss pays 900 a month for health insurance,his treatments for Myasthenia Gravis are 4 to 5 grand a month,at least.My payment a month is about 250 and i rarely use my health insurance.They make money off of me not him. Like Paradime said, they play all sides, poor, rich, government and anyone in between, the poor pay via shit care and their health being put at risk for poorly done treatment, check ups, etc....like an assembly line, push them through. 1 Link to comment
john510 Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 I'm referring to where profit comes from.A health insurer can't make a profit off of somebody that gets treatments that far outweigh the patient's premiums.Simple math. 2 Link to comment
racerx Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 Then they make more money with their stocks. 1 Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 I'm not against people making money, I am against people making money at the expense of people's well being. 2 Link to comment
datzenmike Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 Hold on there,the health insurance industry makes the money off of the healthy ones.My boss pays 900 a month for health insurance,his treatments for Myasthenia Gravis are 4 to 5 grand a month,at least.My payment a month is about 250 and i rarely use my health insurance.They make money off of me not him. Hold on there a minute.... Insurance only works if the well pay into it to cover the sick when it happens. Your boss pays $900 and it costs $4,000 a month. Where do you think the other $3,100 comes from? Right, what you and 12 other healthy people pay into it. Somewhere in there some profit is included. Link to comment
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