Cuz Merica

[flyerdan]

Freighter crew be damned, what concerns me is how a naval vessel could allow something the size of a fucking city block sneak up and smite it like that.  Supposedly we spend billions of dollars a year on sophisticated electronics and training to prevent incidents just like this, as well as more covert things like torpedoes and missiles.  Doesn't bode well when it comes time to sidle up to the bargaining table when budget time rolls around.

[125 CSL]

They show the path of travel for the container ship, it makes a 90 degree turn right into the Fitz.

The container ship could actively be looking to run into any Navy ship away where at any time,...even if all of the electronics are out on the navy ship,...the Navy ship is at fault in the collision. One simple reason. Every day 24 hours a day men(and I guess now women) are on watch.

Now add in the many layers of electronics, a bridge with at least 180 degree viewing field, men on watch outside on the deck, and you still put your ship in the path of a container ship. 

[racerx]

I think we r relying too much on technology. Back in the days, you would have shipmen, w binoculars, watching out in the distance.

[bananahamuck]

That didn't work so great for the Titanic though.

[bananahamuck]

CANADA .. More than Mounties and Maple Syrup

 

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/06/22/canadian-sniper-sets-world-record-with-2-1-mile-pickoff-isis-fighter.html

 

And once again AMERICAN technology comes through,,  even in the hands of a canadian... 

 

 

 

You're welcome world

 

 

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[q-tip]

From what I heard they were travelling in the same direction and the container ship turned directly into the Navy vessel. Kind of like driving on the freeway and the guy two lanes over makes turn right into you.

[datzenmike]

The container ship could actively be looking to run into any Navy ship away where at any time,...even if all of the electronics are out on the navy ship,...the Navy ship is at fault in the collision. One simple reason. Every day 24 hours a day men(and I guess now women) are on watch.

Now add in the many layers of electronics, a bridge with at least 180 degree viewing field, men on watch outside on the deck, and you still put your ship in the path of a container ship. 

 

It was 1 AM. I'm guessing it was black out. Pretty sure the container ship was the one maneuvering erratically at the time not the war ship.  

[a.d._510_n_ok]

'nother day, 'nother dem death threat:

 

Nebraska Dem official ousted for saying he’s wished Rep. Scalise dead

 

The Nebraska Democratic Party ousted an official Thursday after a recording surfaced of him saying he wished House Majority Whip Steve Scalise had died in the Alexandria, Virginia, shooting that left him critically wounded.

 

Phil Montag, a volunteer co-chairman of the party’s technology committee, unloaded a series of expletives in describing his disdain for Rep. Scalise, who is still recovering from an attempted assassination of Republican members of Congress at a June 14 baseball practice.

 

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/23/phil-montag-nebraska-dem-official-ousted-for-sayin/

[125 CSL]

It was 1 AM. I'm guessing it was black out. Pretty sure the container ship was the one maneuvering erratically at the time not the war ship.  

The time or the movement of the container ship really almost matter not at all. The Officers and enlisted have the ability and duty to keep out of a collision.

 

image after contact.

 

* 29,060 gross tons.

* Built in 2008.

* Deadweight of 39,565 tons.

* 222.6 meters long.

 

http://heavy.com/news/2017/06/acx-crystal-uss-fitzgerald-tracking-owner-flag-schedule-container-ship-photo/

 

Watch the video notice all the container ship traffic. Add in all of the other ships without tracking beacon in the waters around Japan.

[125 CSL]

'nother day, 'nother dem death threat:

 

Nebraska Dem official ousted for saying he’s wished Rep. Scalise dead

 

The Nebraska Democratic Party ousted an official Thursday after a recording surfaced of him saying he wished House Majority Whip Steve Scalise had died in the Alexandria, Virginia, shooting that left him critically wounded.

 

Phil Montag, a volunteer co-chairman of the party’s technology committee, unloaded a series of expletives in describing his disdain for Rep. Scalise, who is still recovering from an attempted assassination of Republican members of Congress at a June 14 baseball practice.

 

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/23/phil-montag-nebraska-dem-official-ousted-for-sayin/

waiting to see if any fall out from this

[datzenmike]

The time or the movement of the container ship really almost matter not at all. The Officers and enlisted have the ability and duty to keep out of a collision.

 

image after contact.

 

* 29,060 gross tons.

* Built in 2008.

* Deadweight of 39,565 tons.

* 222.6 meters long.

 

http://heavy.com/news/2017/06/acx-crystal-uss-fitzgerald-tracking-owner-flag-schedule-container-ship-photo/

 

Watch the video notice all the container ship traffic. Add in all of the other ships without tracking beacon in the waters around Japan.

 

 

Seems to me all other ships are going somewhere while the ship in question is wandering all over the place. Ships that are on a course are going to be easier to predict and avoid than one wandering aimlessly/eratically.

 

Yes it should have been able to avoid but visually at 1AM? unlikely.

[john510]

That container ship had serious autopilot issues or somebody wasn't paying attention.Or both.Those course changes are weird.That video doesn't show the actual collision ?

[heywier427]

Yea ^  Waste of 4 god damn minutes!

[125 CSL]

Seems to me all other ships are going somewhere while the ship in question is wandering all over the place. Ships that are on a course are going to be easier to predict and avoid than one wandering aimlessly/eratically.

 

Yes it should have been able to avoid but visually at 1AM? unlikely.

1 am, 1 pm, 3 am, 4 pm, the time matters not, If you have never been aboard a Navy ship it is a hive of activity all the time. Part of the reason people are on watch 24/7. At any time the Captain could call a man overboard drill, or for that matter a real man overboard. The men on watch are there to notice everything going on around the ship. Even if the electronics did not catch the ship, which I in no way believe the men on watch would have. Break down in communication? Officer did not believe the communication? Officer was to slow to act on the communication?

[datzenmike]

Hey.... Kennedy ran his boat under a Japanese destroyer in the dark. I imagine they had lookouts.

[racerx]

Maybe the Japanese destroyer ran the small pt boat on purpose.

[datzenmike]

Who can know really. They were running close to full speed while the PT was idling along. I imagine the chance was offered and taken advantage of.

[a.d._510_n_ok]

Hey.... Kennedy ran his boat under a Japanese destroyer in the dark. I imagine they had lookouts.

well, not exactly. JFK was a decent dude who told the crew not to worry about standing guard that night. The name of the Japanese ship that struck them wasn't known until after WW2 because the Japanese had no clue they had hit anything so nothing was recorded in anyone's log. After the war ended the Japanese logs were reviewed and eventually dates and coordinates fingered the culprit. BTW, JFK wouldn't have been in a combat theatre but for his inability to control his libido. His father, Joe,Sr., was ambassador to England at the time and a powerful political figure who kept the young man in D.C. out of harm's way right up until the FBI offered daddy proof that JFK was diddling a married woman who was believed to be a German spy. When daddy saw the pics he figured shipping Jack off to war ought to uncouple the pair.

 

Daddy Joe wanted to be ambassador to England so bad he could taste it but was largely disliked by everyone, especially FDR, the man who could give him the job. FDR and someone decided that if Joe would come into the Oval Office and drop trou he could have the job. Joe was summoned and FDR (fibbing) told him that if he really wanted the job he would need to inspect Joe's legs because the Brits often wore short pants and FDR didn't want some weird anomaly on Joe's person to offend them and cause an international incident. Joe yanked his pants down so quickly that FDR was taken aback and, laughing, said, "Well, Joe, I guess you really want it - it's yours!".

 

FDR would regret giving him the job because Joe Sr, just like JFK and Joe, Jr (who was the one daddy wanted to run for President) all had a bad habit of publicly praising Hitler and the Third Reich.

[a.d._510_n_ok]

Dems give politically connected judge six-figure gig she’s too obese to do

 

City Judge Elizabeth Shollenberger — who suffers from a digestive disorder and morbid obesity, among other ailments — was unable to climb the three steps to her courtroom bench, even with the help of a specially installed railing, sources said.

 

“She came to the interview with an oxygen tank. She’s very fragile,” Elliott told The Post.

 

“She would come in and we would see the diarrhea running down her leg and to the floor,” one court worker said. “She would soil the chair and then ask for a new one.”

 

“She would just say, ‘There is a mess over there. I think someone should clean it up,’ ” the source said.

 

http://nypost.com/2017/06/22/dems-give-politically-connected-judge-six-figure-gig-shes-too-obese-to-do/

[KoHeartsGPA]

I've seen studies where Chinese dusty makes it around the earth twice , then lands on the Sierras.

Snow melts faster when brown

True, your governor blows.

[KoHeartsGPA]

For what it's worth

 

https://watchers.news/2011/05/20/confirmed-epa-rigged-radnet-japan-nuclear-radiation-monitoring-equipment-to-report-lower-levels-of-fukushima-fallout/

Government lied again, go figure. SMH

[a.d._510_n_ok]

[thisismatt]

Dems give politically connected judge six-figure gig she’s too obese to do

 

City Judge Elizabeth Shollenberger — who suffers from a digestive disorder and morbid obesity, among other ailments — was unable to climb the three steps to her courtroom bench, even with the help of a specially installed railing, sources said.

 

“She came to the interview with an oxygen tank. She’s very fragile,” Elliott told The Post.

 

“She would come in and we would see the diarrhea running down her leg and to the floor,” one court worker said. “She would soil the chair and then ask for a new one.”

 

“She would just say, ‘There is a mess over there. I think someone should clean it up,’ ” the source said.

 

http://nypost.com/2017/06/22/dems-give-politically-connected-judge-six-figure-gig-shes-too-obese-to-do/

Can't do the job? Check.

Diarrhea running down the leg? Check.

Completely delusional/psychopathic? Check.

 

Sounds like she makes the liberal cut!

 

There are some things money can't buy. For everything else there's political favors.

[a.d._510_n_ok]

Bernie and Jane Sanders, under FBI investigation for bank fraud, hire lawyers

Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., and his wife, Jane Sanders have hired prominent defense attorneys amid an FBI investigation into a loan Jane Sanders obtained to expand Burlington College while she was its president, CBS News confirms.

 

Politico Magazine first reported the Sanders had hired lawyers to defend them in the probe. Sanders' top adviser Jeff Weaver told CBS News the couple has sought legal protection over federal agents' allegations from a January 2016 complaint accusing then-President of Burlington College, Ms. Sanders, of distorting donor levels in a 2010 loan application for $10 million from People's United Bank to purchase 33 acres of land for the institution.

 

According to Politico, prosecutors might also be looking into allegations that Sen. Sanders' office inappropriately urged the bank to approve the loan.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/bernie-and-jane-sanders-under-fbi-investigation-for-bank-fraud-hire-lawyers/

[a.d._510_n_ok]

Diarrhea running down the leg?

Maybe that's actually what Chris was feeling...