paradime Posted December 8, 2023 Report Share Posted December 8, 2023 Immigration and border security. Quote Link to comment
frankendat Posted December 8, 2023 Report Share Posted December 8, 2023 59 minutes ago, paradime said: Immigration and border security. Was that in response to Kennedy? Do you have some information on his position, aside from his propaganda website? Quote Link to comment
john510 Posted December 8, 2023 Report Share Posted December 8, 2023 23 hours ago, datzenmike said: I gave up way sooner. . I should have 1 Quote Link to comment
john510 Posted December 8, 2023 Report Share Posted December 8, 2023 13 hours ago, frankendat said: https://www.kennedy24.com/ Has this guy already been accessed by the Ratsun party? He talks a good game (figuratively) My reservations: He is running independent, but is basically a Democrat that claims he will leave guns alone. This appeals to socially liberal conservatives who are looking for an excuse to leave the shitshow that is the Republican party. NRA Republicans are a substantial percentage of Republican voters. If Kennedy runs and wins, Democrats rejoice and a famous Democrat family commands the Whitehouse. If Kennedy runs and weakens the NRA voter base, allowing Biden to win again, Democrats rejoice, as they stay in command. I would rather he was the Democrat candidate and not an independent or was championing an divisive issue in the Democratic party. (Is there a divisive issue in the Democratic party on par with NRA) Kennedy being in the mix probably helps Trump not Biden. He isn't going to win, no chance. 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted December 8, 2023 Report Share Posted December 8, 2023 17 hours ago, paradime said: You gave up way to soon, so tell your friend to watch it. 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted December 8, 2023 Report Share Posted December 8, 2023 Tucker Carson.... wow. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. If he ever called me I would hang up too. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted December 8, 2023 Report Share Posted December 8, 2023 51 minutes ago, john510 said: Kennedy being in the mix probably helps Trump not Biden. He isn't going to win, no chance. Having a third (or more) vote option also siphons votes away from the other two watering down or even preventing a win. Quote Link to comment
frankendat Posted December 8, 2023 Report Share Posted December 8, 2023 2 hours ago, john510 said: Kennedy being in the mix probably helps Trump not Biden. He isn't going to win, no chance. Thinking independents have no chance in our system or do you think his platform sucks? (Both might be true) Quote Link to comment
Duncan Posted December 8, 2023 Report Share Posted December 8, 2023 I didn't even know this was a law. People really have no clue about who they elect. I'm surprised this article was even allowed on Yahoo. https://www.yahoo.com/autos/california-state-senator-tries-changing-210000874.html Quote Link to comment
yenpit Posted December 8, 2023 Report Share Posted December 8, 2023 On 12/7/2023 at 6:15 AM, john510 said: I want 7:48 minutes of my life back.Is this guy supposed to be funny ? For those with TDS, yes, he is funny! 😁😂 Quote Link to comment
frankendat Posted December 8, 2023 Report Share Posted December 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Duncan said: I didn't even know this was a law. People really have no clue about who they elect. I'm surprised this article was even allowed on Yahoo. https://www.yahoo.com/autos/california-state-senator-tries-changing-210000874.html I didn't know that either and I don't trust Yahoo, so I looked up the law. IT'S TRUE! 1 Quote Link to comment
paradime Posted December 8, 2023 Report Share Posted December 8, 2023 13 hours ago, frankendat said: Was that in response to Kennedy? Do you have some information on his position, aside from his propaganda website? RFK jr is a politician running for president, so empty promises and propaganda are par for the course. He know's Immigration is a divisive issue because most of the country wants stronger him er border security. Once again, Dems are not responding to the concerns of the people. It's low hanging fruit, and Jr is playing that card for all its worth. John is absolutely right about this helping Trump, and that's why Biden is playing up that he deported 3.5 times more people then Trump, and suddenly changed his spots with hollow rhetoric about building more walls (in some areas). Different scenario, same BS. Competition and profit margins for products "Made In The USA" are dependent on cheep labor, and that's why nothing has changed. 2 Quote Link to comment
john510 Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 8 hours ago, frankendat said: Thinking independents have no chance in our system or do you think his platform sucks? (Both might be true) Independents never have had a good chance. His platform seems ok for the most part. He's not on my "no way in hell" list. Listening to him is tough because of his voice. 2 Quote Link to comment
john510 Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 10 hours ago, datzenmike said: Having a third (or more) vote option also siphons votes away from the other two watering down or even preventing a win. True but how many Republican supporters would choose Kennedy over Trump vs. how many Democrats would choose Kennedy over Biden ? 1 Quote Link to comment
john510 Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 1 hour ago, paradime said: RFK jr is a politician running for president, so empty promises and propaganda are par for the course. He know's Immigration is a divisive issue because most of the country wants stronger him er border security. Once again, Dems are not responding to the concerns of the people. It's low hanging fruit, and Jr is playing that card for all its worth. John is absolutely right about this helping Trump, and that's why Biden is playing up that he deported 3.5 times more people then Trump, and suddenly changed his spots with hollow rhetoric about building more walls (in some areas). Different scenario, same BS. Competition and profit margins for products "Made In The USA" are dependent on cheep labor, and that's why nothing has changed. Is Biden really claiming he's deported 3.5 times as many as Trump ? If true is it because Biden has let 10X as many into the country illegally ? 2 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 11 minutes ago, john510 said: Listening to him is tough because of his voice. I'm with Indy. I keep my eyes closed and don't ever look... 2 Quote Link to comment
Dav Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 If there are three or four presidential candidates, and none of the three or four receives enough electoral college votes to win, what happens? The House votes - one vote per state. 1 Quote Link to comment
frankendat Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 3 hours ago, john510 said: Independents never have had a good chance. His platform seems ok for the most part. He's not on my "no way in hell" list. Listening to him is tough because of his voice. According to Joe Rogan, it was a vaccine that screwed up his voice. 1 Quote Link to comment
thisismatt Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 43 minutes ago, frankendat said: According to Joe Rogan, it was a vaccine that screwed up his voice. What? no 2 Quote Link to comment
ratpatrol66 Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 1 hour ago, frankendat said: According to Joe Rogan, it was a vaccine that screwed up his voice. No it was because choking on dicks. 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 That's better! 1 Quote Link to comment
john510 Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 12 hours ago, frankendat said: 12 hours ago, frankendat said: According to Joe Rogan, it was a vaccine that screwed up his voice. No. He has Spasmodic Dysphonia a rare condition that affects the vocal chords. 2 Quote Link to comment
paradime Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 18 hours ago, john510 said: Is Biden really claiming he's deported 3.5 times as many as Trump ? If true is it because Biden has let 10X as many into the country illegally ? Biden is a politician running for reelection, so empty promises and BS rhetoric are par for the course. If Trump is leading in the polls, is that because he's the only one telling the truth? 3 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 Paradime is this a better description of critical thinking we tried to discuss? 1 Quote Link to comment
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