Icehouse Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 I'd like to start with a favorite quote "Privilege is invisible to those who have it." You need to look up which presidents used the executive orders the most! I'm all for improving the medical $ystem. I don't see why a $3 ace bandage is $25 at the hospital, maybe we could work on bringing the costs down instead more taxes that just increase the cost of everything. Remove the middle man (insurance or government) and prices will go down. Other than costs, driven by lawsuits and government interference, our medical care is some of the best in the world. You are talking about removing the incentive to make the money in the first place. Tax me 90% and I am out, there is no reason for me to even try to make a million. That's what I'm saying! A bandage should be $3! It's like UPS vs. FedX. FedX cost way more and does a shit job getting packages delivered. Every country that has single paying pays much much less than we do. Best by what metric? Money equals care? Maybe. Canadians live longer, pay less.. As for taking away incentive. If you only work because one day you will make a million dollars a year I have some really bad news for you... The people who need incentive are the poor and anyone who is trying to make their way back to civilized society such as X drug addicts. A system that doesn't allow for these types of people to re enter society is going to have a tough time. I don't see how anyone can work and /or have a family and not have the safety net of medical coverage.... and then get bent for me suggesting your government should provide it 'free'. What? you don't deserve it? Cut your arm off but don't sew it on because socialism? Private medical insurance is profit driven. Government insurance (in theory) would be less. Preach it Mike! It's crazy how people and religious people escpeically buy into the right wing propaganda. 1 Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Take off the blindfold, brother! Link to comment
Icehouse Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 I don't agree with a lot of things Trump says, but we needed an outsider to shake things up, it be great if Democrats had one as well, I do respect Sanders for being straightforward and honest about his views, Hillary on the other hand.....fucking criminal running for president :sick: I'm glad we don't have a Trump! Not that I'm much of a democrat. Bernie is hands down the best person for the job and it's looking pretty good for him! I understand you guys don't like Hillary but I'm missing how she is a criminal. Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 People have been put in jail for way less than what Hillary has done with the email and private server debacle.....if you fail too see that....you're truly blindfolded. Link to comment
Icehouse Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Really? You know when she did that it was allowed right? It wasn't a good choice she made but it wasn't against the law unless its classified information. Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Congrats on your super dooper blindfold....must be nice to no see much... Link to comment
Icehouse Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 blindfold? I don't even like her. If Bernie doesn't win the primary I'm going to write him in before I vote for her. I like facts though. Find me a fact. Link to comment
Rick-rat Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Perjury is a crime Jeff, Sillary lies every time her lips move 1 Link to comment
fritzdixxon Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Here's a fact. You are fucked no matter who wins! The pupet dosen't matter when its the same people pulling the strings. 7 Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/hillary-clinton-emails-contained-info-above-top-secret-ig-n499886 Link to comment
Icehouse Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Here's a fact. You are fucked no matter who wins! The pupet dosen't matter when its the same people pulling the strings. not bernie!!! 1 Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 I bet you said the same thing about Obama too.....sad that there's so many people like you that don't get it. Link to comment
paradime Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 GPA, Okay man, we get it, your a conservative in the people's republic of Eugene, and maybe it's a tough place to be a republican, but damn Dude. Drop the "You libtard blind folk just don't get it" shit. Put weight behind it, and back your point up with some facts and intelligent thoughts of your own. I can watch FNC and get that sad dart throwing crap all day long. Let go of your Rep-resentment and speak your peace. < intended, so don't correct my spelling and try to make me look stoopid. :lol: Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 News flash.... I'm not a conservative. I'm not a liberal. Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Is it too much for you to handle, Paradime?, surely you can't be caught up in the establishment mentality that every American should be either Republican or Democrat...or are you caught up in that propaganda?, if you are you got suckered in and joined the heard of sheep, if you haven't figured it out yet....that's what the ultimate goal is.....if the establishment can achieve turning masses into sheep they would become unstoppable, what they don't want is free thinkers, people that don't buy into neither political mindsets.....THAT is what they fear.....as I stated before......both parties are corrupted to the core.....both parties shit on our constitution. It is what it is. Link to comment
paradime Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Not too much to handle, just think throwing those kind of one sided insults is counter productive. 2 Link to comment
Mattndew76 Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 blindfold? I don't even like her. If Bernie doesn't win the primary I'm going to write him in before I vote for her. I like facts though. Find me a fact. 1) Executive Order 13526 and 18 U.S.C Sec. 793(f) of the federal code make it unlawful to send of store classified information on personal email 2) Section 1236.22 of the 2009 National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) requirements 3)18 U.S. Code § 793 – Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information 4)18 U.S. Code § 798 – Disclosure of classified information (allowing staff who had no clearance to see sensitive documents) 5)U.S. Code § 1924 – Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material 6) 18 U.S. Code § 2071(b) — Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally 7) 18 U.S. Code § 641 – Public money, property or records 8) 18 U.S. Code § 1505 – Obstruction of proceedings before departments, agencies, and committees 9) 18 U.S. Code § 1519 — Destruction, alteration, or falsification of records in federal investigations 10) 18 U.S. Code § 1031 — Fraud against the United States 11) 18 U.S. Code § 1343 – Fraud by wire, radio or television 12) 18 U.S. Code § 1346 — Definition of “scheme or artifice to defraud” 13) 18 U.S. Code § 371 – Conspiracy to defraud the United States 14) 18 U.S. Code § 371 – Conspiracy to commit a federal offense 15) Secure Embassy Construction and Counterterrorism Act of 1999 (SECCA), 22 USC § 4865 2(B)(ii). She broke and violated several of these. Most of these are under investigation by the FBI. Its really how much political power does she really have that will keep the DOJ from prosecuting her. I don't like her either. Its a good consensus we can go with :D I don't dislike Bernie either. He needs a realistic financial adviser for his campaign though. That might sway more moderate center rights. 2 Link to comment
TENDRIL Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 and those who wont be puppet-ed, will be killed ....... its fucked 3 Link to comment
Mattndew76 Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 1.125 million votes Its a close race between The Bern and the Donzig http://drudgereport.com/nosp.htm Link to comment
TENDRIL Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 so here lies the problem, there is something like 300 million legal gun owning Americans right now, and lets just go with maybe 1-2000 of them need to be offed to reboot most of our three branches. I would say they could all be offed within a week with less than 5k people pulling the triggers and I am pretty sure there are far more than 5k Americans willing to fight for their country back. this statement is hypothetical of course and for entertainment and discussion purposes only 2 Link to comment
uberkevin Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Never mind the head line. http://www.allenbwest.com/2016/01/breaking-fox-news-just-revealed-most-damning-info-yet-about-hillary-clinton/ Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Question is.... If she wins it all and two years down the road she's found guilty......what happens?, does she get a pass for being a Clinton?, Does her VP become president? One thing is certain.....voters fucked up yet again. That's the question that needs to be made. Link to comment
uberkevin Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 She not going to fucking win! Nor the fucking nut job sanders.. Really they are all bat shit fucking crazy, thinking they can actually do something with out being just like the person they dispise.. Obama.. Furthermore I did look up Executive order.. I also found that the name for the action done had been changed.. Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Sanders will only win the Iowa caucuses and maybe couple more in and around the Northeast, Hillary has the rest pretty much wrapped up. Link to comment
tr8er Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 so here lies the problem, there is something like 300 million legal gun owning Americans right now, and lets just go with maybe 1-2000 of them need to be offed to reboot most of our three branches. I would say they could all be offed within a week with less than 5k people pulling the triggers and I am pretty sure there are far more than 5k Americans willing to fight for their country back. this statement is hypothetical of course and for entertainment and discussion purposes only You'd have more than a couple thousand recognizing "fight for their country back" as "domestic terrorists". Their guns would be just as loud. As well, the military would fuck that shit up real quick. You want to change your governing body, two routes are effective. 1. Run for office and start legislating. 2. Move. Pulling triggers is a privilage not to be honored by abuse. Save that for when it's needed. Disappointment in the petty shit we are affected by is no reason for that shit. We are free to leave. Caged rats kill Link to comment
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