mainer311 Posted March 28, 2021 Report Share Posted March 28, 2021 (edited) Also, it appears your truck has a lot of positive camber. That’s going to make it drive a bit squirrelly. Edited March 28, 2021 by mainer311 2 Quote Link to comment
Crashtd420 Posted March 28, 2021 Report Share Posted March 28, 2021 46 minutes ago, mainer311 said: Also, it appears your truck has a lot of positive camber. That’s going to make it drive a bit squirrelly. I guess it's good he wants to lower the front some.... Won't lowering bring the top in correcting any positive camber.... 2 Quote Link to comment
mainer311 Posted March 28, 2021 Report Share Posted March 28, 2021 20 minutes ago, Crashtd420 said: I guess it's good he wants to lower the front some.... Won't lowering bring the top in correcting any positive camber.... I guess. I’m not sure how the suspension arms are setup in these. If the upper links are shorter than the lower, it’ll work in his favor. 2 Quote Link to comment
Zonargx Posted March 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2021 Thanks guy but I’m gonna install the whole suspension on it possibly tomorrow or Tuesday. That’s why I don’t want to lower it right now too incase it still to hight and have to adjust height again thanks @mainer311 for noticing it I look at the picture again and it does seem to have some positive cancer . What would be great zeroing it or adding a bit of negative camber on it ? 1 Quote Link to comment
mainer311 Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 A touch of negative helps cornering. If you want decent tire wear, just get it close to 0. 1 Quote Link to comment
Charlie69 Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 18 hours ago, Crashtd420 said: I guess it's good he wants to lower the front some.... Won't lowering bring the top in correcting any positive camber.... Does this truck have worn king pin bushings? Quote Link to comment
banzai510(hainz) Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 49 minutes ago, Charlie69 said: Does this truck have worn king pin bushings? They all do!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you get the stock rims and then lower it the camber might come out better and wont hit the tire. as those rims dont do the truck justice. also I had too much camber on my truck and the upper bushings were worn out(A arms I think thats what they are) Inside the truck were those upper a arm links are behind the fender there are U shaped washers. that are adjustable. However I would not fuck with them if possible. But at least look at them if soembody put just simple round washers then you know somebody played with this before. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment
banzai510(hainz) Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 (edited) 15 hours ago, Zonargx said: Thanks guy but I’m gonna install the whole suspension on it possibly tomorrow You you mean by this????? this is a nice truck hope you dont ruin it Edited March 29, 2021 by banzai510(hainz) 1 1 Quote Link to comment
Zonargx Posted March 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 Ok I’ll post some pick of the upper control arms tomorrow I didn’t take some of them well Ans the driver side does not have any washer to give it any camber the right side does have a set of regular rounded washers one of u but they might just be u ones have t paid much attention 1 Quote Link to comment
Zonargx Posted March 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 (edited) So the hight went up about 1 1/2 and what seems like a lot of positive camber now and.I have to drop the truck about two inches in the front Edited March 30, 2021 by Zonargx 2 Quote Link to comment
Zonargx Posted March 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 14 hours ago, banzai510(hainz) said: You you mean by this????? this is a nice truck hope you dont ruin it I meant to say I was going to do the suspension on my truck mostly all the bushings Stabilizer bushings the ones for the front rod that’s connected to the lower control arm and front of the frame and some kyb shocks. Oh and not to mention @mklotz70 upper control arm bushings. That’s it motors mounts to but that’s not to important of a discussion I guess. 2 Quote Link to comment
Zonargx Posted March 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 (edited) Will lowering the truck compensate for that positive camber? I don’t want to drop it more than 2 inches I don’t want to drop it lower than the tires I want it to have a bit of space. Pretty much to how it was when I first posted the pictures of the wheels just installed. Pictures don’t do really show much but it looks like a Baja type of truck high at the front and low at the end Edited March 30, 2021 by Zonargx 1 Quote Link to comment
mrbigtanker Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 3 hours ago, Zonargx said: Will lowering the truck compensate for that positive camber? I don’t want to drop it more than 2 inches I don’t want to drop it lower than the tires I want it to have a bit of space. Pretty much to how it was when I first posted the pictures of the wheels just installed. Pictures don’t do really show much but it looks like a Baja type of truck high at the front and low at the end No it will not do anything for camber. Take those wheels off and throw them away in my opinion. Those fronts sticking out look JDM. lol 1 Quote Link to comment
Zonargx Posted March 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 (edited) I guess I can just go pandem so it covers it up Edited March 30, 2021 by Zonargx 1 Quote Link to comment
mainer311 Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 (edited) It looks fine. Put a mark on the torsion bars where they slide into the lower control arms. Jack the truck up, pull the torsion bars out, and re-index the torsion bars by 2 splines. To get the front level, you can fine tune the amount the lock nuts are threaded on the other end. You can do all this when you put the upper control arm bushings in. Edited March 30, 2021 by mainer311 1 Quote Link to comment
Crashtd420 Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 6 hours ago, Zonargx said: That’s it motors mounts to but that’s not to important of a discussion I guess. Watch out with the motor mounts... The ones generally listed are not correct.... I'm not sure what was really figured out to be a correct replacement.. I used what the parts store gave me and remade the metal bracket..... 1 Quote Link to comment
banzai510(hainz) Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, Zonargx said: @mklotz70 upper control arm bushings I been trying to a get a set of those also. but never in stock man that truck look like mine when I got it 20yrs ago. Looks awesome!!!!!!!!!! Man get rid of those wheels!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it ruining the looks of this classic Edited March 30, 2021 by banzai510(hainz) 2 Quote Link to comment
mainer311 Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 Take everyone's opinion here with a grain of salt. The wheels look fine. 3 Quote Link to comment
banzai510(hainz) Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 18 minutes ago, mainer311 said: Take everyone's opinion here with a grain of salt. The wheels look fine. If he had thinner wheels all this would not be a issue as you just lower it then see the camber ect.... All he is doing fixing one proplem then indroducing another lower it to fix camber but then fuck up his fender when you hits a huge pothole rip the tire, slam into a guard rail and another 521 parts truck will be listed in the Want Ads. Ok Im going overboard but you what I mean. Its a Datsun thing. I had a Mexican neihboor who had a Ford Aspire(Daewoo I think it really was.) It was smashed in front and back like a Acordian. He said he was going to fix it cause it still had new tires and didnt want them to go to waist!!!! WTF 1 Quote Link to comment
Zonargx Posted March 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 @banzai510(hainz) I’m not gonna ruin it I don’t ven want my fenders lower than my tires just about enough to be able to to have a good clearance like 3 inches from fender to tires 1 Quote Link to comment
mainer311 Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 @banzai510(hainz)He’s not lowering it to fix camber. I just mentioned that his was off. He was lowering it anyway, and then we got on the topic of suspension geometry. FFS. 2 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 Camber is only perfect near factory ride height. Upper and lower control arms are different lengths so camber always changes above or below factory ride height. Adding adjustment shims moves rim towards negative camber or less positive. Add same amount front and rear to preserve the caster setting. Any camber change will change the toe setting. 3 Quote Link to comment
Zonargx Posted March 31, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 (edited) @datzenmikeadd same amount for rear? If I put shims to take the positive camber off how do I give it the same to the rear? I have never messed with car in this way were I lower and adjust heights I have always been a huge fan of stock look up until now haha.the actually look to me that they are more of zero camber only the fronts have that ugly positive camber ill post pics of the front drop tomorrow Edited March 31, 2021 by Zonargx 1 Quote Link to comment
mainer311 Posted March 31, 2021 Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 It’s a solid rear axle. You can’t adjust it. 1 Quote Link to comment
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