datzenmike Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 Mr. normal. Then in a short time he devolved into a madman. Hard to predict this. News stations still making a meal out of nothing. Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 I thought you didn't watch news, Mike, which is it? Link to comment
240zness Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 You two are fucked up. You could probably find out everything about him in 20 minutes on line. So I haven't seen the 'news' today but is there any more information about the shooter? and if there is none, are you guys going to assume there was some conspiracy covering his tracks? Lack of motive means he definitely had help covering it up??? Man I know how it sounds , but we all thought things were simple at one point. None of the evidence of cover up ever makes you entertain the idea? Tough to do when seemingly everything is not fully explained I understand. Put yourself in some tinfoil shoes Link to comment
john510 Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 Number of guns does not equate to higher or lower threat to society.. neither does amount of ammo. Those are not metrics that equate to level of crazy.. people collect things. People have hobbies. Except in this case (and others) where if the shooter didn't have all he wanted to have could he have killed 58 people with a pistol and six bullets ? Link to comment
john510 Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 Man I know how it sounds , but we all thought things were simple at one point. None of the evidence of cover up ever makes you entertain the idea? Tough to do when seemingly everything is not fully explained I understand. Put yourself in some tinfoil shoes What evidence of cover up ? it's only been a couple of days. 1 Link to comment
racerx Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 At this point, we don't know. We are just speculating. Link to comment
datzenmike Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 I thought you didn't watch news, Mike, which is it? I catch some news about 10 min (or less) a day. Today it was less than 3 min as you could see they were just going to go on and on and on about it with nothing new. New developments! But they weren't really developments at all, more like bait and switch. If only he had been a cult member.... Said I don't watch TV. Meaning anything else programed. Maybe once a year I work out of town and sit in a hotel room in the evening. There's nothing but cable TV. If lucky there's a movie but I can't believe the absolute shit that others must watch. I don't miss it one bit. I hear more news here although you have to wade through the hip deep shit and run it through a fine filter as well. 1 Link to comment
240zness Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 What evidence of cover up ? it's only been a couple of days. General Not to comment on Sunday, although I was in early. I'm not following closely, just watching how things work Link to comment
Draker Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 Except in this case (and others) where if the shooter didn't have all he wanted to have could he have killed 58 people with a pistol and six bullets ? No, but he could with a truck. Should we limit the size of vehicles? Or the number of vehicles? Is a person with 50 vehicles not mentally fit? Again, it's not a metric that defines a person's mental state. 1 Link to comment
tr8er Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 Benzo's. Once again the killer was on Benzos. Every fucking recent whack job killer has been on this newer class of anxiety meds. I'm done questioning it. I've known personally friends on this drug turn fucking nuts angry killer mode. Even took his own life as a result. Run the fucking headline. Fuck pharma! 4 Link to comment
240zness Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 Grassy knoll? Magic bullet? Link to comment
Draker Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 Benzo's. Once again the killer was on Benzos. Every fucking recent whack job killer has been on this newer class of anxiety meds. I'm done questioning it. I've known personally friends on this drug turn fucking nuts angry killer mode. Even took his own life as a result. Run the fucking headline. Fuck pharma! Still waiting for the psychotic motive. Link to comment
datzenmike Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 Benzo's. Once again the killer was on Benzos. Every fucking recent whack job killer has been on this newer class of anxiety meds. I'm done questioning it. I've known personally friends on this drug turn fucking nuts angry killer mode. Even took his own life as a result. Run the fucking headline. Fuck pharma! People with a mental disorder go 'round the bend' and you think that's strange? They might all be smokers or right handed or live at addresses with even numbers too.. 1 Link to comment
racerx Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 No, but he could with a truck. Should we limit the size of vehicles? Or the number of vehicles? Is a person with 50 vehicles not mentally fit? Again, it's not a metric that defines a person's mental state. ...so a person that hoards things does not have a mental issue. 1 Link to comment
tr8er Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 People with a mental disorder go 'round the bend' and you think that's strange? They might all be smokers or right handed or live at addresses with even numbers too.. Mike, I advise you to read even a tiny amount on this class of drug benzodiazepines. They even list agressive behavior and suicide. If you've not known anyone who has taken or abused this class of drug, then I wouldn't expect you to believe me. I bet 125 CSL would have something to say on them as well (works in medicine). These drugs have a very long half life in the system and accumulate quickly as your tolerance keeps swelling. A relatively normal guy pulling shit like this 4 months after starting his prescription just makes a fuck ton of sense after seeing what I've seen. 1 Link to comment
racerx Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 Benzo's. Once again the killer was on Benzos. Every fucking recent whack job killer has been on this newer class of anxiety meds. I'm done questioning it. I've known personally friends on this drug turn fucking nuts angry killer mode. Even took his own life as a result. Run the fucking headline. Fuck pharma!...you have a source for this info. Or speculation. Link to comment
Draker Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 ...so a person that hoards things does not have a mental issue. Now you're reaching. 1 Link to comment
datzenmike Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 Mike, I advise you to read even a tiny amount on this class of drug benzodiazepines. They even list agressive behavior and suicide. If you've not known anyone who has taken or abused this class of drug, then I wouldn't expect you to believe me. I bet 125 CSL would have something to say on them as well (works in medicine). These drugs have a very long half life in the system and accumulate quickly as your tolerance keeps swelling. A relatively normal guy pulling shit like this 4 months after starting his prescription just makes a fuck ton of sense after seeing what I've seen. You said every recent whack case was using them. I don't know, so how do you know this? Link to comment
tr8er Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 ...you have a source for this info. Or speculation.Quick google search. Not a reach nor speculation. https://www.livescience.com/51030-benzodiazepines-pain-relievers-homicide-risk.html 1 Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 Benzo's. Once again the killer was on Benzos. Every fucking recent whack job killer has been on this newer class of anxiety meds. I'm done questioning it. I've known personally friends on this drug turn fucking nuts angry killer mode. Even took his own life as a result. Run the fucking headline. Fuck pharma! So....again it goes full circle, fuck you big pharma!!!, I hope every last soul that was affected by this travesty takes a good look at this and goes after those responsible, no matter what party every one responsible for this drug hitting the market has to pay, fuck them all! Link to comment
racerx Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 Quick google search. Not a reach nor speculation. https://www.livescience.com/51030-benzodiazepines-pain-relievers-homicide-risk.html ...you have proof that Paddock was on this med. And then drove him nuts? Your link describes the medicine. Link to comment
tr8er Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/the-strip/las-vegas-strip-shooter-prescribed-anti-anxiety-drug-in-june/ Fox ran it too. I guess that could possibly turn up false but it doesn't look like fabrication right off. Link to comment
bananahamuck Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 I think you're reaching,,, look at tattoo on the guys neck ,,, he's probably been "off" for a while. 2 Link to comment
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