KoHeartsGPA Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 All these guns and bullets? These?, Really? Link to comment
tr8er Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 How??? Big pharma is about sales... Well. One solution would be to implement single payer, removing the private price negotiation of meds from insurance companies. Also removing monetary incentives for doctors prescribing specific drugs, and incentivizing doctors to heal patients instead of paying them for sick patients by removing commissioned drug sales and patient visits. But that's a terrible idea because Pharma and Insurance lobbyists have built the right wing marching orders on that topic. KO, I do hope you come full circle on that some day. Glad we can agree on symptom #1, Pharma. Link to comment
racerx Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 Just read Repub. Carlos Curbelo introduced a ban of Bump stock for semi autos, Paul Ryan is also agreeing and even NRA said that should be looked at. 1 Link to comment
john510 Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 Don't forget about Nice. What exactly are guns build for? Edit: I see your answer. Where does skeet shooting, the Olympics, plinking, fall in that definition? Obviously guns are used for sporting also.I should go back and edit my post to include that.Have you ever seen a sporting competition using assault style weapons ? please excuse me for using the term "assault style" No, guns and bullets aren't a drug, nice try though. If he was on these drugs do you suppose he obtained them legally ? almost a nice try. What do you want to do about this, John?, Give us a solution. I've stated before,there is no solution ! new laws will be skirted somehow with creativity from gun makers/builders.That's already happened.I just don't think it's necessary for the average law abiding citizen to need such weapons.You're not going to prevent tyranny from the government with it.Somehow some way this guy should have been a red flag with all the stuff he purchased recently even though he broke no laws.What would be your solution ? all you seem to have is "cuz right to bare arms" and "fuck big pharma" I think the gun crowd is its own worst enemy because of the attitude they present.Fortunately this incident got the NRA's attention,they seem concerned that this is quite a problem. Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 Well. One solution would be to implement single payer, removing the private price negotiation of meds from insurance companies. Also removing monetary incentives for doctors prescribing specific drugs, and incentivizing doctors to heal patients instead of paying them for sick patients by removing commissioned drug sales and patient visits. But that's a terrible idea because Pharma and Insurance lobbyists have built the right wing marching orders on that topic. KO, I do hope you come full circle on that some day. Glad we can agree on symptom #1, Pharma. If you think Democrats are clean from big pharma and insurance money you're ignorant or stupid, it's been pointed out before, and single payer won't fix anything, ask anyone that comes or lives in a single payer system, except Mike, he's sold on socialism. 1 Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 Obviously guns are used for sporting also.I should go back and edit my post to include that.Have you ever seen a sporting competition using assault style weapons ? please excuse me for using the term "assault style" If he was on these drugs do you suppose he obtained them legally ? almost a nice try. I've stated before,there is no solution ! new laws will be skirted somehow with creativity from gun makers/builders.That's already happened.I just don't think it's necessary for the average law abiding citizen to need such weapons.You're not going to prevent tyranny from the government with it.Somehow some way this guy should have been a red flag with all the stuff he purchased recently even though he broke no laws.What would be your solution ? all you seem to have is "cuz right to bare arms" and "fuck big pharma" I think the gun crowd is its own worst enemy because of the attitude they present.Fortunately this incident got the NRA's attention,they seem concerned that this is quite a problem. Again, guns aren't shooting up people, people are shooting up people, and if this is your line of thinking why not ban guns outright? Fact is pistols are used on 90% of gun related homicides in the USA, be honest and just say you're against gun ownership, if I want to own a tank and the law allows me to, well then I have the right to own one if I can afford it, like I said before, laws don't stop criminals, period. 1 Link to comment
john510 Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 Again, guns aren't shooting up people, people are shooting up people, and if this is your line of thinking why not ban guns outright? Fact is pistols are used on 90% of gun related homicides in the USA, be honest and just say you're against gun ownership, if I want to own a tank and the law allows me to, well then I have the right to own one if I can afford it, like I said before, laws don't stop criminals, period. I'm not against gun ownership at all ! understand that please.There's also no comparing homicide by pistol with what happened the other day.Could a pistol or even a shotgun have done that so quickly ?Why is it everybody uses the "guns don't shoot themselves argument" ? weak.I guess you could say psychopaths without a gun don't kill people either. I would like to see some of these aftermarket parts that convert a gun to something it wasn't supposed to do be banned from being produced legally.Make it a major felony to have possession of these parts.I know,i know,criminals don't obey the law.This nut job wasn't a criminal last week,look what happened.The 2nd amendment is 26 words and written when the population was less than 4 million when they shot crap for guns.Things are a little different now. Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 How many times do I have to repeat "bad people don't follow any fucking laws" how do you regulate that, John? 3 Link to comment
john510 Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 How many times do I have to repeat "bad people don't follow any fucking laws" how do you regulate that, John? Your stating the incredibly obvious,thank you though.You could start by making it harder to obtain bad things.You really miss Para don't you ? i'll fill in for awhile. 1 Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 Your stating the incredibly obvious,thank you though.You could start by making it harder to obtain bad things.You really miss Para don't you ? i'll fill in for awhile. And how the fuck you do that, tells us John, you're close enough to LA, drive up there and make some contacts in South Central, they'll hook you up with any military grade weapon you can afford, and tell us how you can stop that, last I checked, the gangs don't give two fucks about any law. Link to comment
racerx Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 I dont think the government is not going to take away peoples guns. They will eventually limit cartridges and bump stock. As i said earlier, repubs., ryan and nra are in unison to look into the matter while legislation is in process of banning the bump stock. What happened in Vegas is horrific and w out the bump stock, more than likely that nut job could have killed or injured less people. Which means less people losing their love ones. 1 Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 I dont think the government is not going to take away peoples guns. They will eventually limit cartridges and bump stock. As i said earlier, repubs., ryan and nra are in unison to look into the matter while legislation is in process of banning the bump stock. What happened in Vegas is horrific and w out the bump stock, more than likely that nut job could have killed or injured less people. Which means less people losing their love ones. Ya, and it only will apply to law abiding citizens, in the name of fear mongering. Link to comment
john510 Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 And how the fuck you do that, tells us John, you're close enough to LA, drive up there and make some contacts in South Central, they'll hook you up with any military grade weapon you can afford, and tell us how you can stop that, last I checked, the gangs don't give two fucks about any law. A start would be to stop manufacturing them,i'm talking about military style weapons.Not shotguns,pistols,hunting rifles etc.South Central ? i'm a white guy and probably wouldn't make it out alive if i went there.We're beating a dead horse here. Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 A start would be to stop manufacturing them,i'm talking about military style weapons.Not shotguns,pistols,hunting rifles etc.South Central ? i'm a white guy and probably wouldn't make it out alive if i went there.We're beating a dead horse here. No, you're beating a dead horse, stopping the manufacturers from....LOL wow dude, you're way off, there are enough guns already all over the world to make 0 dent by shutting down production. Link to comment
Mattndew76 Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 A start would be to stop manufacturing them,i'm talking about military style weapons.Not shotguns,pistols,hunting rifles etc.South Central ? i'm a white guy and probably wouldn't make it out alive if i went there.We're beating a dead horse here. Please explain what military style is. Link to comment
Mattndew76 Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 Nothing sold through dealer shops or sporting good stores sell anything military. Military style weapons are strictly sold through government contract and highly highly scrutinized. A catalog of data is attached to every weapon and even the waste metal is cataloged. Civilians buy civilian weapons. Wether it be with a wood stock or polymer. I suggest you become familiar with firearms John and read the article I posted earlier. 3 Link to comment
racerx Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 Ya, and it only will apply to law abiding citizens, in the name of fear mongering....not fear mongering, 58 or 59 people died, hundreds wounded, live lost, maybe others will lose limbs or lost an eye, lost love ones, lost a father or mother or both, maybe a brother an uncle or aunt, fear mongering is psychological manipulation, the shooting did take place and something has to be done. 1 Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 Hey let's make more legislation that in the end will only hurt law abiding citizens, meanwhile in the real world.... Questions? Link to comment
john510 Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 No, you're beating a dead horse, stopping the manufacturers from....LOL wow dude, you're way off, there are enough guns already all over the world to make 0 dent by shutting down production. I agree that there are plenty already.I said "we're" beating a dead horse,not you. Please explain what military style is. You know damn well what that means. Link to comment
Mattndew76 Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 You know damn well what that means. I might, but please feel free to explain 1 Link to comment
racerx Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 What about doggy style, pls explain. 1 Link to comment
john510 Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 Hey let's make more legislation that in the end will only hurt law abiding citizens, meanwhile in the real world.... Questions? I'll wack the horse again,if gun owners are such great "law abiding citizens" (i think most are) why would you need to build a weapon that can't be tracked down ? why not just legally purchase it ? that video doesn't help you prove your point.Those accessories are exactly what i was talking about that shouldn't be manufactured. Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 I'll wack the horse again,if gun owners are such great "law abiding citizens" (i think most are) why would you need to build a weapon that can't be tracked down ? why not just legally purchase it ? that video doesn't help you prove your point. Not only proved my point, it displays how ignorant you are to reality, fuck me... Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 Do you want me to s p e l l out the point, John? Link to comment
john510 Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 Not only proved my point, it displays how ignorant you are to reality, fuck me... What's next ? tell me to fuck my own face ? Link to comment
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