Cuz Merica

[Dguy210]

Well tomorrow the 19th should be interesting. I wonder if we are going to get another shit show in Portland again. 

[KoHeartsGPA]

You bet your ass!

[Draker]

Gonna need some salt to thaw all those frozen liberal tears.

[Ratwagon1600]

Whats going on?

 

RW needs an update please.

 

Monosyllabic words and one sentence is fine :)

[datzenmike]

Technically true. And I can't stand Hillary for other reasons, but the email scandal was relatively minor and was common amongst virtually ally politicians in her class. The private server part was a crafted bullshit news piece because it didn't actually matter what server she was on. Classified docs can't be sent on a .gov server either. So she was in fact thrown under the bus on that issue. At blame, sure. But in no way more guilty of corrupt negotiating. That shit is everywhere.

 

Maybe (as I said earlier) this will change how politicians act. Nothing is safe on line.

[KoHeartsGPA]

Gonna need some salt to thaw all those frozen liberal tears.

I'd be happy to wipe their face on the interstate......for free :)

[datzenmike]

#snowflakesmatter

[VFR800]

Look..... I just went through hell to get my transgendered homosexual blended inter racial wedding cake and now you're telling me that you won't bring me propane because of my choice of president....?

 

A phone message at Turner LP Gas Service says they should find someone else to deliver their gas.

 

On the coldest day of the season, a Skowhegan-area propane dealer has a pointed message for would-be customers.

 

“If you voted for Donald Trump for President, I will no longer be delivering your gas, please find someone else,” is the message left for customers that call Turner LP Gas Service, on Canaan Road in Skowhegan.

 

The message goes on to say that the cost of gas remains $110 a bottle, payment on delivery. A voicemail message left at Turner LP Gas Service was not returned.

 

http://www.pressherald.com/2016/12/16/skowhegan-area-propane-dealer-says-no-trump-voters/

 

 

How stupid. . . . 

[Dguy210]

Whats going on?

 

RW needs an update please.

 

Monosyllabic words and one sentence is fine :)

 

In 'Murica the people indirectly elect the president.

Electors do the actual voting for President on Dec 19th.

States with lots of people get more Electors.

Who the Electors vote for president is based on who got the most votes within a state.

This is done to make sure all the states have a voice in the election just not the places with lots of people.

 

So tomorrow it all becomes final for who is President of the United States.

The losing political party has been trying to get the Electors to vote for the candidate who lost and have been agitating the supporters of the losing political party.

 

However, tomorrow their last little bit of hope will be squashed and they will likely lose their collective shit.  Portland has a large concentration of these people.

[a.d._510_n_ok]

just a reminder: the votes are unofficially counted tomorrow. January 6, 2017 is the official count date with Congress counting under Joe Biden's supervision.

[Jesse C.]

Something pretty major is going down tomorrow so you better just brace yourselves! 

 

 

 

 

 

I turn 49

 

(Drops the Mic)

[Ratwagon1600]

In 'Murica the people indirectly elect the president.

Electors do the actual voting for President on Dec 19th.

States with lots of people get more Electors.

Who the Electors vote for president is based on who got the most votes within a state.

This is done to make sure all the states have a voice in the election just not the places with lots of people.

 

So tomorrow it all becomes final for who is President of the United States.

The losing political party has been trying to get the Electors to vote for the candidate who lost and have been agitating the supporters of the losing political party.

 

However, tomorrow their last little bit of hope will be squashed and they will likely lose their collective shit.  Portland has a large concentration of these people.

Cool, thanks for the response!

 

Ill get a bag of popcorn and a sixpack of brews for the ensuing shitstorm I guess is gunna happen.

[wayno]

If you look up electors you will find info about them, they are picked by congress to do the job that they pledged to do, but at the end of the info about them it is said that no elector has ever been prosecuted for not voting for who they pledged to vote for in the history of the electoral college, this means that electors have voted for a candidate that did not win in their state and never were held accountable.

 

If this were to happen tomorrow, and they gave Hilary the win, I would get all your money out of the banks/stock markets ASAP, as I believe that this system will collapse and the government will not cover your bank accounts.

I also believe that rioting like this country has never seen in a century will take place if they give it to Hilary, as the people will know that their vote don't count.

[Jesse C.]

Almost every bridge in California is going to look like this tomorrow after the count. 

 

[240zness]

^ popcorn and beea in Australia even if wayno is right

 

Dropping more than the mic Jesse , happy birthday

[KoHeartsGPA]

Happy birthday, Jesse!

[MikeRL411]

If you look up electors you will find info about them, they are picked by congress to do the job that they pledged to do, but at the end of the info about them it is said that no elector has ever been prosecuted for not voting for who they pledged to vote for in the history of the electoral college, this means that electors have voted for a candidate that did not win in their state and never were held accountable.

 

If this were to happen tomorrow, and they gave Hilary the win, I would get all your money out of the banks/stock markets ASAP, as I believe that this system will collapse and the government will not cover your bank accounts.

I also believe that rioting like this country has never seen in a century will take place if they give it to Hilary, as the people will know that their vote don't count.

 

Hey Wayno! In case you don't remember, Electors are chosen by the voters in their specific states, not by Congress! Now go reread the US Constition!

[datzenmike]

If you look up electors you will find info about them, they are picked by congress to do the job that they pledged to do, but at the end of the info about them it is said that no elector has ever been prosecuted for not voting for who they pledged to vote for in the history of the electoral college, this means that electors have voted for a candidate that did not win in their state and never were held accountable.

 

If this were to happen tomorrow, and they gave Hilary the win, I would get all your money out of the banks/stock markets ASAP, as I believe that this system will collapse and the government will not cover your bank accounts.

I also believe that rioting like this country has never seen in a century will take place if they give it to Hilary, as the people will know that their vote don't count.

 

I'm sure the electors know this too.

 

 

I hope the electors know this too....

[a.d._510_n_ok]

Almost every bridge in California is going to look like this tomorrow after the count. 

 

[tr8er]

If you look up electors you will find info about them, they are picked by congress to do the job that they pledged to do, but at the end of the info about them it is said that no elector has ever been prosecuted for not voting for who they pledged to vote for in the history of the electoral college, this means that electors have voted for a candidate that did not win in their state and never were held accountable.

 

If this were to happen tomorrow, and they gave Hilary the win, I would get all your money out of the banks/stock markets ASAP, as I believe that this system will collapse and the government will not cover your bank accounts.

I also believe that rioting like this country has never seen in a century will take place if they give it to Hilary, as the people will know that their vote don't count.

What exactly is their job if they are supposed to just follow their states vote? If that were the case, they would be out a job. Their role is to defy the vote if necessary. That simply is their job. They have a couple of options though. Follow the common vote. Vote for another. It would be highly unlikely for them to vote Hillary though. If neither Trump nor Hillary get enough votes, the House will choose one of the three highest vote count candidates. Thus Republican defectors would choose one other to give house a good conservative choice. Then, in Jan. They would vote for prez amongst those three. There is an extremely low chance of this, but it would not bring on the Apocolypse.

[flyerdan]

To make things even more interesting, a quick peek at the top of the Drudge Report shows a slain Russian ambassador in Turkey.  For those with a modicum knowledge of history, this strongly resembles a 1914 precursor to the great war, the war to end all wars, which, without a detailed count, occured some thirty wars ago.

[a.d._510_n_ok]

[VFR800]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/19/russian-ambassador-to-turkey-wounded-in-ankara-shooting-attack

[wayno]

Hey Wayno! In case you don't remember, Electors are chosen by the voters in their specific states, not by Congress! Now go reread the US Constition!

 

I will give you that, they are not chosen by congress like I thought I read, at least I cannot find the page where I thought I read that, but they are not elected by vote of the people in my state either, as I don't call voting for a president as voting for an elector, especially when they don't have to cast their electoral vote for who won the popular vote in their area.

 

It says that no elector has ever been held accountable/been prosecuted for not voting the way they pledged in the history of the electoral college, but so far none of these faithless electors have ever changed the results of an election either, so far...............

 

About the Electors

What are the qualifications to be an Elector?

The U.S. Constitution contains very few provisions relating to the qualifications of Electors. Article II, section 1, clause 2 provides that no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector. As a historical matter, the 14th Amendment provides that state officials who have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the United States or given aid and comfort to its enemies are disqualified from serving as Electors. This prohibition relates to the post-Civil War era.

The National Association of Secretaries of State (NASS) has compiled a brief summary of state laws about the various procedures, which vary from state to state, for selecting slates of potential electors and for conducting the meeting of the electors. The document, Summary: State Laws Regarding Presidential Electors, can be downloaded from the NASS website.

Each state's Certificates of Ascertainment confirms the names of its appointed electors. A state's certification of its electors is generally sufficient to establish the qualifications of electors.

Who selects the Electors?

Choosing each state's Electors is a two-part process. First, the political parties in each state choose slates of potential Electors sometime before the general election. Second, on Election Day, the voters in each state select their state's Electors by casting their ballots for President.

The first part of the process is controlled by the political parties in each state and varies from state to state. Generally, the parties either nominate slates of potential Electors at their state party conventions or they chose them by a vote of the party's central committee. This happens in each state for each party by whatever rules the state party and (sometimes) the national party have for the process. This first part of the process results in each Presidential candidate having their own unique slate of potential Electors.

Political parties often choose Electors for the slate to recognize their service and dedication to that political party. They may be state elected officials, state party leaders, or people in the state who have a personal or political affiliation with their party's Presidential candidate. (For specific information about how slates of potential Electors are chosen, contact the political parties in each state.)

The second part of the process happens on Election Day. When the voters in each state cast votes for the Presidential candidate of their choice they are voting to select their state's Electors. The potential Electors' names may or may not appear on the ballot below the name of the Presidential candidates, depending on election procedures and ballot formats in each state.

The winning Presidential candidate's slate of potential Electors are appointed as the state's Electors—except in Nebraska and Maine, which have proportional distribution of the Electors. In Nebraska and Maine, the state winner receives two Electors and the winner of each congressional district (who may be the same as the overall winner or a different candidate) receives one Elector. This system permits the Electors from Nebraska and Maine to be awarded to more than one candidate.

Are there restrictions on who the Electors can vote for?

There is no Constitutional provision or Federal law that requires Electors to vote according to the results of the popular vote in their states. Some states, however, require Electors to cast their votes according to the popular vote. These pledges fall into two categories—Electors bound by state law and those bound by pledges to political parties.

The U.S. Supreme Court has held that the Constitution does not require that Electors be completely free to act as they choose and therefore, political parties may extract pledges from electors to vote for the parties' nominees. Some state laws provide that so-called "faithless Electors" may be subject to fines or may be disqualified for casting an invalid vote and be replaced by a substitute elector. The Supreme Court has not specifically ruled on the question of whether pledges and penalties for failure to vote as pledged may be enforced under the Constitution. No Elector has ever been prosecuted for failing to vote as pledged.

Today, it is rare for Electors to disregard the popular vote by casting their electoral vote for someone other than their party's candidate. Electors generally hold a leadership position in their party or were chosen to recognize years of loyal service to the party. Throughout our history as a nation, more than 99 percent of Electors have voted as pledged.

[Draker]

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