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America's showing it’s true colors

Florida District Secretary Kelly referred to survivors of last week's school shooting as “actors that travel to various crisis when they happen,”

Trump used the horrific incident to accuse the FBI of failing the students because they’re too busy investigating him.

Florida Gov. Scott is calling for FBI director Ray (who admitted the agency’s failure) to resign after Florida state social workers, licensed psychotherapists, local school officials, city, county, and state police all failed yet never owned their mistakes.

Democrats are playing their own political blame game to divert attention away from their own spineless impotent leadership. WTF did the Obama admin accomplish in his 8 years? Now they’re literally crying because Republicans aren’t doing anything.

Trump is floating rumors he’s willing to sign gun control laws ranging from strengthening laws in place, streamlining FBI background checks for handguns and assault rifles (oh the irony), razing the age to own an assault rifle to 21, all the way to banning AR-15s all together. All about as likely as the Orange Prince of Chaos draining the swamp. And so here we are again… and again and again.

Some people say it makes no sense for the Gov not to do something, others say its all about the simple capitalist goal of corporate profit, for some the debate has devolved into closed circular logic interpreting the 2nd Amendment wording “being necessary to the security of a free state” as meaning to defend themselves against their own government trying to enforce the “well regulated” part.

When the 2nd was written, unlike all of Europe, our country didn’t have a standing military, so our civilians were the first line of defense against invasion from very active European forces to our North and South. Once we had an army, did we fail to adjust the 2nd before it was too late, or was there still legitimate reason for “the people to keep and bear arms” as a defense?

If we can use history to inform us on our relationship with guns, can it also inform us on our Governments inaction in regulating it?

Everyone can see the gun violence in America and the negative image of our government doing little to nothing to stop it. Here is a cynical question, is our government so willing to let this carnage go on because they still feel our countries passion for guns is a viable defense/detourant from invasion. Eg. Mass shootings are acceptable collateral damage for having this last line of defense?

Personally, I’m not willing to accept 315 people a day dying from gun shot as justifiable in defense against fear. When you consider our military has a base budget of $523 billion, an overseas operations budget of $58.8 billion, an Intel budget of $70.7 billion, US Dept of Justice $29 billion, DHS $40 billion, and untold money on state and local law enforcement, After all that, why the hell anybody here still needs a gun to “protect” themselves seems ridiculous.

I know people like myself own guns because they’re cool, but if I’m honest, I got them because I have the impression my family isn’t safe, but why? Is it because there are so many guns out there?

 

 

A while ago I came to a realization. You want to feel safe, stop watching the sex and blood pornography we call news.

 

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A lot (read too many) of yanks believe that even nutters and crazies should only have their 2nd amendment right taken away AFTER they've killed sufficient #'s to warrant it. 

 

Can hope that the sense you speak of is adopted and not resisted as being an egregious violation of 2nd amendment right.

 

 

 

I noticed during the discussion with Don,the male teen who apparently was @ that FL school misquoted about Australia's gun laws.

 

1 - our last mass shooting did not occur at a school 

 

2 - it was not in 1999.

 

Hoping that the lack of accuracy threre on that is not indicative of the rest of USA on what happened here regarding laws/firearms and mass shootings. 

Cut him a little slack,he was only 3 years off.So after you guys passed your new gun law how many mass murders have occured ? 

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And he could quite possibly get some % from the other side.

 

True,could do that too. 

 

Don is enough of a maverick to go with that which the non-mainstream and is the populist thing if he thinks it will mean he's winning.

 

 

 

Cut him a little slack,he was only 3 years off.So after you guys passed your new gun law how many mass murders have occured ? 

 

 

It was the "school"  part that made me shake my head the most.

 

Anywho,since the 1996 Port Arthur (a former penal colony that is visited by tourists) Massacre and the subsequent gun buy back and bans/restrictions -    no mass shootings have occurred.

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Just in a possible mass shooting by another 17 year old thwarted by a security guard in la la land. Over a stupid disagreement with a teacher about head phones. The security guard overheard the nut job talking about killing and took initiative to report to the authorities, unlike the FBI earlier on with Cruz.

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In Aus there have been a number of shootings since the 1996 firearms buyback. These have generally been between omcg's and other criminal elements and have resulted in numerous injuries and some single person fatalities. There have been no mass casualty events since 1996.

 

N.b. Ive said it before, the sheer scale of firearms in Murica makes an Aussie style buyback/amnesty unworkable.

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A while ago I came to a realization. You want to feel safe, stop watching the sex and blood pornography we call news.

 

 

 

I watch less than 10- minutes a day and no other TV whatever. News is entertainment in small amounts and Fentanyl just slightly over this amount. It's a little over 5 years now and yes I feel ..... better. The world is fucked up and it can just pass me by, I don't care. You know something? I mine more entertainment out of what's going on in the world as 'reported' in Cuz.     

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This is priceless. The leader of the free world and the self confessed very intelligent man needs talking points that a five year old would use.

 

http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/trumps-personal-notes-remind-him-to-say-i-hear-you-during-a-listening-session-with-survivors-of-a-mass-shooting/news-story/8c6546a8a52136f56c0f318328fdea6c

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BS. The militia IS the people, so read it again and it says the people should be able to bear arms in order to fulfill their role/obligation and definition as the militia. Not much sense having an unarmed militia. So bearing arms and the right to, is for militia purposes no mention of personal defense but national defense.

 

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a military force that is raised from the civil population to supplement a regular army in an emergency.

a military force that engages in rebel or terrorist activities, typically in opposition to a regular army.

all able-bodied civilians eligible by law for military service.

 

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BS. The militia IS the people, so read it again and it says the people should be able to bear arms in order to fulfill their role/obligation and definition as the militia. Not much sense having an unarmed militia. So bearing arms and the right to, is for militia purposes no mention of personal defense but national defense.mi·li·tia

məˈliSHə/

noun

noun: militia; plural noun: militiasa military force that is raised from the civil population to supplement a regular army in an emergency.

a military force that engages in rebel or terrorist activities, typically in opposition to a regular army.

all able-bodied civilians eligible by law for military service.

Origin

late 16th century: from Latin, literally ‘military service,’ from miles, milit- ‘soldier.’

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Sorry mike, the scotus has spoken. The people are the militia, no further interpretation necessary.
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America's showing it’s true colors

 

Florida District Secretary Kelly referred to survivors of last week's school shooting as “actors that travel to various crisis when they happen,”

 

Trump used the horrific incident to accuse the FBI of failing the students because they’re too busy investigating him.

 

Florida Gov. Scott is calling for FBI director Ray (who admitted the agency’s failure) to resign after Florida state social workers, licensed psychotherapists, local school officials, city, county, and state police all failed yet never owned their mistakes.

 

Democrats are playing their own political blame game to divert attention away from their own spineless impotent leadership. WTF did the Obama admin accomplish in his 8 years? Now they’re literally crying because Republicans aren’t doing anything.

 

Trump is floating rumors he’s willing to sign gun control laws ranging from strengthening laws in place, streamlining FBI background checks for handguns and assault rifles (oh the irony), razing the age to own an assault rifle to 21, all the way to banning AR-15s all together. All about as likely as the Orange Prince of Chaos draining the swamp. And so here we are again… and again and again.

 

Some people say it makes no sense for the Gov not to do something, others say its all about the simple capitalist goal of corporate profit, for some the debate has devolved into closed circular logic interpreting the 2nd Amendment wording “being necessary to the security of a free state” as meaning to defend themselves against their own government trying to enforce the “well regulated” part.

 

When the 2nd was written, unlike all of Europe, our country didn’t have a standing military, so our civilians were the first line of defense against invasion from very active European forces to our North and South. Once we had an army, did we fail to adjust the 2nd before it was too late, or was there still legitimate reason for “the people to keep and bear arms” as a defense?

 

If we can use history to inform us on our relationship with guns, can it also inform us on our Governments inaction in regulating it?

 

Everyone can see the gun violence in America and the negative image of our government doing little to nothing to stop it. Here is a cynical question, is our government so willing to let this carnage go on because they still feel our countries passion for guns is a viable defense/detourant from invasion. Eg. Mass shootings are acceptable collateral damage for having this last line of defense?

 

Personally, I’m not willing to accept 315 people a day dying from gun shot as justifiable in defense against fear. When you consider our military has a base budget of $523 billion, an overseas operations budget of $58.8 billion, an Intel budget of $70.7 billion, US Dept of Justice $29 billion, DHS $40 billion, and untold money on state and local law enforcement, After all that, why the hell anybody here still needs a gun to “protect” themselves seems ridiculous.

 

I know people like myself own guns because they’re cool, but if I’m honest, I got them because I have the impression my family isn’t safe, but why? Is it because there are so many guns out there?

 

 

A while ago I came to a realization. You want to feel safe, stop watching the sex and blood pornography we call news.

 

 

 

Yet, you care nothing that 215 people die per day in the US of excessive alcohol consumption, plus the other immeasurable negative impacts of alcohol on every other facet of life.

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