datzenmike Posted May 8, 2020 Report Share Posted May 8, 2020 Get a long one so your hand falls of the steering wheel onto it. You know you have it right when you can shift all gears without moving your shoulder from the seat back. I've never understood why people shorten their shifters and then have to look down and grope for it or lean forward to shift it. Shortening the throw doesn't make it any faster it makes it stiffer because you loose some mechanical leverage with a shorter stick. You can also bend the shifter in a vice with a piece of pipe over the end to customize it. I drove a Boss 429 Mustang once and I swear the shift pattern was higher at the front 1 and 3 and lower for 2 and 4 like it was on a slope. 1 Quote Link to comment
d.p Posted May 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2020 (edited) I love me some Boss 429s. Someday maybe I will own one. Edit: Which 71B would have a long shifter? Anyone that came out of a truck I assume? Edited May 8, 2020 by d.p 1 Quote Link to comment
Crashtd420 Posted May 8, 2020 Report Share Posted May 8, 2020 Hey dp I think this is the boot is was talking about last night.... Keeps shit out of the shifter hole https://www.ebay.com/itm/162652567764 1 Quote Link to comment
d.p Posted May 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2020 (edited) I seen that on zcardepot as well. Trying to get a list of everything I need to buy, so far I have: Trans rebuild kit (gasket + seals) Trans talishaft oil plug Reverse switch Clutch fork rubber boot Shifter bushing kit Shift boot seal 620 Trans mount + Redeyes trans mount qt of ATF Trans to block bolts, anyone know size and pitch of those? Shifter + shift knob Anything else? Edited May 8, 2020 by d.p Quote Link to comment
Crashtd420 Posted May 8, 2020 Report Share Posted May 8, 2020 Or this... comes with shifter bushings too.. https://www.ebay.com/itm/313075813772 1 Quote Link to comment
d.p Posted May 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Crashtd420 said: Or this... comes with shifter bushings too.. https://www.ebay.com/itm/313075813772 Cool I saw on another z site replacing those plastic bushings with bronze ones, think its worth it? https://www.thezstore.com/page/TZS/PROD/classic22c02/20-1071 Edited May 8, 2020 by d.p 1 Quote Link to comment
Crashtd420 Posted May 8, 2020 Report Share Posted May 8, 2020 Just now, d.p said: Cool I saw on another z site replacing those plastic bushings with copper ones, think its worth it? https://www.thezstore.com/page/TZS/PROD/classic22c02/20-1071 I expect it would take a while for the nylon ones to wear out but for the extra $10 why not... 1 Quote Link to comment
Crashtd420 Posted May 8, 2020 Report Share Posted May 8, 2020 (edited) Oh and the tail shaft oil plug, I'm pretty sure you can use an engine core plug.... did you get any extra when you did the motor? I could be wrong but I think that was the size you need.... Also I dont think I saw a rebuild kit that was just the seals and cover gasket... just order them seperate.. hopefully one of the places your ordering from has them... Edited May 8, 2020 by Crashtd420 1 Quote Link to comment
d.p Posted May 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2020 Yeah I do but this is just a tail shaft plug so I could plug the trans when uninstalling/reinstalling ($5). Been ordering a lot of stuff from zcardepot lateley has they seem to have a good selection. Well them and Riley at Lynchburg but that mfer can be really hard to get a hold of. https://zcardepot.com/products/transmission-removal-tailshaft-oil-plug?variant=19282717474929 https://zcardepot.com/products/transmission-rebuild-repair-kit-240z-260z-280z-zx?variant=19278647754865 1 Quote Link to comment
d.p Posted May 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2020 (edited) Edit: Can someone tell me what transmission this is? Is it an FSW71B? Or is it a FS5C71B? Edited May 8, 2020 by d.p 1 Quote Link to comment
Crashtd420 Posted May 8, 2020 Report Share Posted May 8, 2020 17 minutes ago, d.p said: Yeah I do but this is just a tail shaft plug so I could plug the trans when uninstalling/reinstalling ($5). Been ordering a lot of stuff from zcardepot lateley has they seem to have a good selection. Well them and Riley at Lynchburg but that mfer can be really hard to get a hold of. https://zcardepot.com/products/transmission-removal-tailshaft-oil-plug?variant=19282717474929 https://zcardepot.com/products/transmission-rebuild-repair-kit-240z-260z-280z-zx?variant=19278647754865 Well I'm wrong those are definitely the 3 you need.... And that plug is to keep oil from spilling out when the driveshaft is removed.... I thought you need a plug for the input shaft part of the driveshaft.... I know Mike has talked about that before..... 1 Quote Link to comment
d.p Posted May 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Crashtd420 said: Well I'm wrong those are definitely the 3 you need.... And that plug is to keep oil from spilling out when the driveshaft is removed.... I thought you need a plug for the input shaft part of the driveshaft.... I know Mike has talked about that before..... Yeah I know what its for and I have a core plug to plug my 521 driveeshaft when I cut/swap it over. 1 Quote Link to comment
Crashtd420 Posted May 8, 2020 Report Share Posted May 8, 2020 1 minute ago, d.p said: Yeah I know what its for and I have a core plug to plug my 521 driveeshaft when I cut/swap it over. Oh I guess 5 bucks why not.... 1 Quote Link to comment
d.p Posted May 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2020 Would this work with my trans? At this point I just want something so I can check to see if it even goes into every gear without spending a grip. Would be a plus that whatever I do buy would work in the long run as well. Seller says "4 Or 5 Speed 620 510 520" but it looks like a 71B shifter from how it mounts. 1 Quote Link to comment
d.p Posted May 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2020 Or this one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/S35-Speed-Shift-Handle-Datsun-280Z-Shift-Handle-5-speed-240Z-260Z-280Z/114216524975?hash=item1a97d5dcaf%3Ag%3Apu8AAOSwJp1etP2S&LH_ItemCondition=4 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted May 8, 2020 Report Share Posted May 8, 2020 Yes either will do. All 71B 4 and 5 speed shifters are the same on the 620. A plug to seal the transmission while removing or putting back???? Just leave drain plug out and let drain over night and put back in empty, then refill. How the fuck you going to pull the driveshaft out then put the plug in without wearing all the oil. Just drain it first. 1 Quote Link to comment
d.p Posted May 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2020 Is one of those longer than the other ? Top looks longer. 1 Quote Link to comment
wayno Posted May 8, 2020 Report Share Posted May 8, 2020 The lower one is tilted back farther, at least what it looks like to me, or tilted forward farther depending on how you install it. 1 Quote Link to comment
d.p Posted May 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2020 (edited) Top one is 15” bottom one 12”. Top 89$ bottom $39 so I bought the top one. I figure if I am going to get ATF for the new trans I will change it on my 4 speed. What brand or weight and how much do I need? Gl4 8090? Edited May 9, 2020 by d.p Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted May 9, 2020 Report Share Posted May 9, 2020 ATF is only for rinsing it out. A qt will do. When you drain it, give it a look for anything like metal. Install the transmission. I use a few feet of garden hose with a dollar store kitchen funnel in the end. Slide it down from the engine compartment into the fill hole and pour the oil in. When it over flows it's full. Do not try to overfill, it will only blow out the plastic vent. Use GL-4 oil 80w90. Do not use GL-5 differential oil. Transmission oil must be compatible with copper and copper alloy as in the synchronizer rings. I'm using GM Delco Friction Modified Synchromesh Transmission oil, the same used in the new Camaro and the Corvette. It's semi synthetic thinner and slippery. With the same effort the transmission up shifts faster. It now down shifts without any grinding. If you've driven a standard you'll have noticed that the first few shifts when cold and certaainly in the winter are stiff. The Delco oil eliminates this completely. The only down side is it can leak or become wet around the rear seal so any time I take the transmission out I put a new one in. Two liters was about $40 CDN. I would use the cheaper oil to get running and switch it out later in the summer if all's well. 2. Slide it down and into the fill hole on the side. Quote Link to comment
d.p Posted May 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2020 Is this what you use? ACDelco 10-4014 Friction Modified Synchromesh Manual Transmission Fluid - 32 oz https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0026JK8FK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_GtSTEb8D96E9Q Quote Link to comment
thisismatt Posted May 9, 2020 Report Share Posted May 9, 2020 https://www.redlineoil.com/mt-85-75w85-gl-4-gear-oil Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted May 9, 2020 Report Share Posted May 9, 2020 I expect that royal purple and any other color semi synthetic plus the Delco friction modified (which is orange/yellow) are all from the same supplier with only a different color additive added. I think Shell makes the stock base oil, I can't remember. Quote Link to comment
mainer311 Posted May 9, 2020 Report Share Posted May 9, 2020 You can always just get the GL-4 manual trans fluid from the dealer. I’ve tried Amsoil and Redline. They don’t really make any difference in these old transmissions. Quote Link to comment
d.p Posted May 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2020 My dumbass ordered some NAPA and it ended up being gl5. Nissan dealer sell gl4? Shit is hard to come by in store. N Quote Link to comment
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