datzenmike Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 You forgot I talk like a CNN announcer. I'm not talking down to anyone. Trying to make sense of it all but seems more and more like this is simply not accessible to reason. It's hard to reason with a car nut also. Try telling a Chevy guy about how fast your Ford is. Or how bad a Corvair is. 1 Link to comment
mainer311 Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 But I mean, Corvairs are bad. Link to comment
DRIVEN Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 Fords and Corvairs are bad. But I'd never tell you you can't own one. 3 Link to comment
240zness Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 Arguing about guns, is like arguing about whether or not god exists. Neither side never understands the other side, and both parties leave right where they started. Cognitive Dissonance.. so much proof of source energy, and a clear history of gun law creep (ratchet effect). Gun control laws are going to constantly increase hurtles and decrease options for citizens who sign up to responsibly bare arms. Where does that take us..?? Link to comment
datzenmike Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 DRIVEN.... except that the one coming towards around the corner is out of control. Link to comment
DRIVEN Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 Sounds like a bad driver to me. Link to comment
datzenmike Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 No it really was the car design. Link to comment
DRIVEN Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 You win. Ban everything. Anyone wanna buy a 510 wagon? 1 Link to comment
racerx Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 Arguing about guns, is like arguing about whether or not god exists. Neither side never understands the other side, and both parties leave right where they started.....or more entrenched with their beliefs. People will always impart their opinions but you can't change another's opinion because that requires one to re evaluate their beliefs and this requires change and most people will not. Link to comment
datzenmike Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 ... and why we have 1163 pages in Cuz. Try as you might you are not going to change anything, but you have to try. Link to comment
racerx Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 Once in awhile people change their beliefs usually when something dramatic happens in their life. Other than that people will not, especially here in the USA, most value their individual rights. You can't blame them because they have been brought up with the idea that self preservation or individualism is the way to go. 2 Link to comment
Mattndew76 Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 I love my rifles and I love my car. Both of those things support my family. Fuck anyone who wants to take that away. 2 Link to comment
Mattndew76 Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 This is what happens when new "Regulation" or Gun grabbers suggest "Common Sense" gun laws need to be added. Nothing is added aside from more text. The RIGHT to something as it was is only taken away. That is a net loss for anyone within the law as it had existed. sub·tractsəbˈtrakt/Submitverbverb: subtract; 3rd person present: subtracts; past tense: subtracted; past participle: subtracted; gerund or present participle: subtractingtake away (a number or amount) from another to calculate the difference."subtract 43 from 60"synonyms: take away/off, deduct, debit, dock; Moreantonyms: addtake away (something) from something else so as to decrease the size, number, or amount."programs were added and subtracted as called for" 1 Link to comment
tr8er Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 But Mike didn't write that. The cake analogy is very fitting for what "gun control" does. No tr8r the cake does not get rebuilt. see the crumbs were wiped off of gun controls fat face back onto the plate when the "assault weapon" ban was allowed to expire. Other than that no gun control law has been reduced or overturned. The bottom line is gun control is is called for when criminals break the law and it is thought that the only way to stop criminals is out right ban for all. I've said it before I will say it again, look a t Mexico, very hard to LEGALLY own a firearm yet it has some of the highest gun violence on the planet. Tell me again how more laws will stop anything? Gun legislation has done nothing to prevent any arms that were purchasable when written. Even with all of the new regulations, we have a massive new catalogue of arms available to us. If you believe 0 regulation is right, you are not thinking critically. We'd have people shooting down jetliners from their back yards. There are reasonable limits. I haven't seen any attempt to take away everyone's guns. The only people stating such are gun advocated sewing division. Sure there are idiots with you tube channels but they are not making laws. And as long as legislation continues to only target new categories of weapons and accessories, My picket signs will stay at home. Mexico, Canada, Australia...terrible "proof" you've presented. That said, violence is cultural. Guns just make violent people lethal. They also make good citizens, cops, military, security lethal. The US has a violent culture. I'm completely of the mind that our issues are cultural. Guns are just an extension of that culture. Good and bad. 1 Link to comment
tr8er Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 ... and why we have 1163 pages in Cuz. Try as you might you are not going to change anything, but you have to try. You are sorely mistaken. Opinions are formed in places like this. Less so by the outspoken. Link to comment
a.d._510_n_ok Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 Schumer Postpones Presser After Al Franken Accused Of Sexual Misconduct A little over an hour after a Los Angeles news anchor accused Sen. Al Franken (D-MN) of sexual misconduct, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) postponed a press conference planned for 12:30 p.m. to talk about the Republican tax cut legislation. Schumer’s office did not offer an explanation for the postponement of the press conference. Leeann Tweeden, an anchor on Los Angeles station KABC, on Thursday accused Franken of forcibly kissing her and groping her in 2006 while the two were on a United Service Organizations tour to entertain the troops. Tweeden said that Franken insisted on rehearsing a skit in which the two would kiss until she agreed and then “aggressively stuck his tongue in my mouth.” She also shared a photo in which Franken is reaching toward her chest while she is asleep. http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/schumer-postpones-press-conference-after-franken-allegations Link to comment
tr8er Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 He should have just slept with 14 y.o.'s or something... He's not even touching her. I hope the postponement was unrelated to this. Link to comment
Jesse C. Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 He should have just slept with 14 y.o.'s or something... He's not even touching her. I hope the postponement was unrelated to this. Yup Link to comment
q-tip Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 You win. Ban everything. Anyone wanna buy a 510 wagon? Ban all the things, cuz feelings. 1 Link to comment
a.d._510_n_ok Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 Democrat Al Franken laughed about a homosexual being killed: “He recalled writing a skit called “Seamen on Broadway” that was rejected from the Hasty Pudding show “by some preppie so they could take some other preppie’s skit.” Franken started to smile again, but his tone was serious, too serious. “It’s not preppies, cause I’m a preppie myself. I just don’t like homosexuals. If you ask me, they’re all homosexuals in the Pudding. Hey, I was glad when that Pudding homosexual got killed in Philadelphia.” The smile became so broad it pushed his eyes shut. He couldn’t stand it any longer. “Put that in, put that in,” Franken laughed, leaning over the desk. “I’d love to see that in The Crimson.”” http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/11/democrat-al-franken-jokes-murder-gay-man-dont-like-homosexuals-glad-pudding-homosexual-got-killed/ Link to comment
datzenmike Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 tr8er .... yes opinions formed but seldom changed. Once formed they are perceived as being correct by the person who formed them from rational, correct discovery and believe them to be accurate. In other words you trust yourself more than others who had access to the same data. Hard to see, let alone admit, that it just might not be quite right. An opinion by definition cannot be wrong. Link to comment
racerx Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 Of course an opinion can be wrong but thats my opinion... 1 Link to comment
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