TENDRIL Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 http://www.ethyper.com/ron-paul-us-elections-are-rigged-voting-simply-used-to-pacify-the-public.html 1 Link to comment
VFR800 Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 No cigar. Well,as it is I don't smoke anyways so your cigar is redundant. Manufacturing jobs and many other industries are looking for the cheapest place to make their goods and also @ same time avoid tax (anyone who doesn't know this is a fact has their head further up their arse than is anatomically possible). And it is simple,the companies that previously would hire people in numbers to actually make a difference simply laid off all the relevant workers and moved offshore to countries where the labour rate is so low and no unions or other laws exist to prevent exploitation of a cheap labour force can be done. 1 Link to comment
VFR800 Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Its not that simple. Yes it is. China,India and other south east asian nations are THE preferred location for multi-nationals to have the majority of their labour division working and making their product. Link to comment
VFR800 Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 By investing in companies you give them spending capital thus they increase products and services...somewhere along the line those investments do create jobs....it's simple economics. That's cool if they employ a majority of their staff within the country that "invested" in them. Simple economics is where any trading venture sources it's capital from private not public sector. 1 Link to comment
oakrun Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 What exactly is happening... That's an odd scene Link to comment
datzenmike Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 I remember 'Mellow Yellow' when I was a kid. Everyone was baking banana peels in their mom's oven and smoking the charred remains. All kinds of claims about getting high but really just a bad headache. 1 Link to comment
DaBlist Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Today's youth don't want to do most of the jobs so a lot of the jobs we create end up being for immigrants 1 Link to comment
RatVonDude Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Creating jobs is almost an Un natural concept by all human standards. Taking jobs is probably more cohesive with the competitive nature of man, as fucked up as that sounds. We should be thinking of ways to take jobs, from China or wearever. I think this attitude can help everyone, unless someone has changed the rules. 2 Link to comment
RatVonDude Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 There is a old saying that has stuck with me for years it goes " destroy your compitition completely " This has gotten me farther than any dickhead going on about the jobs they create. 2 Link to comment
Mattndew76 Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Job creation is daunting here in the Socialist republic of Oregon. I am a sole proprietor but the state and feds want weekly accounting reports if I decided to create a position available for hire. They have a huge packet form to fill out for BOLI, OHP, DHS, and many other things. You would literally have to create an HR position just to hire one person as a small company. The state and federal body has created a huge mess to wade through in order to grow. Its not very easy to expand.....Automation is the easiest way. Buy robotics and just let them outwork any human ever.........Sorry to say but newer generation are more and more antiquated because of imposed burdens by the States and Feds. 2 Link to comment
VFR800 Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Less Government a la Reagan might be the go ey? 1 Link to comment
Mattndew76 Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Less Government a la Reagan might be the go ey? Ask a lefty that and you might get your head cut off speaking of such things. Apparently more government in your life is how we succeed. I am ok with having to overcome less government until I have reached a adequate size of business. Where hiring an HR specialist and several employees is attainable. The State and FED is my largest obstacle. 2 Link to comment
VFR800 Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Ask a lefty that and you might get your head cut off speaking of such things. True,they don't own firearms. :rofl: 3 Link to comment
q-tip Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 My folks have a business here in Washington, they have had a few actually, but Matt is right; the gubment really fucks over anyone trying to make their own way, especially if they want to hire an employee or two. The shitstorm of paper work is absolutely ridiculous, and God forbid you want to get your employees some benefits.... 5 Link to comment
Mattndew76 Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Its not that people aren't trying to create work in the USA. Its probably easier to go where the path has less resistance for making money. I get contacted by chinese manufacturing all the time because of my IG account. They quote some retarded low prices for making the ATV stuff I do in huge quantity. I could see how easy it would be to say "screw it" and order the parts from Cheena vs making them in my garage. Pennies on the dollar and then charge my rate for each part once on my floor. I would much rather expand into a large manufacturing company and employ locals but the FED regulation and local gubment regs are a heavy burden. So much so they become a dream smasher. Link to comment
RatVonDude Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Job creation is daunting here in the Socialist republic of Oregon. I am a sole proprietor but the state and feds want weekly accounting reports if I decided to create a position available for hire. They have a huge packet form to fill out for BOLI, OHP, DHS, and many other things. You would literally have to create an HR position just to hire one person as a small company. The state and federal body has created a huge mess to wade through in order to grow. Its not very easy to expand.....Automation is the easiest way. Buy robotics and just let them outwork any human ever.........Sorry to say but newer generation are more and more antiquated because of imposed burdens by the States and Feds. I've heard this from several people and maybe the reason why it is almost impossible to find work Oregon. Here in Cali you can kinda wangle it into some subcontractor possition because nothing is perfect. I almost prefer being a sub contractor because of more write offs and less stress on your employer. I know this isn't the case everywhere tho. 2 Link to comment
tr8er Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Its not that people aren't trying to create work in the USA. Its probably easier to go where the path has less resistance for making money. I get contacted by chinese manufacturing all the time because of my IG account. They quote some retarded low prices for making the ATV stuff I do in huge quantity. I could see how easy it would be to say "screw it" and order the parts from Cheena vs making them in my garage. Pennies on the dollar and then charge my rate for each part once on my floor. I would much rather expand into a large manufacturing company and employ locals but the FED regulation and local gubment regs are a heavy burden. So much so they become a dream smasher. If you could truly use an employee, send them to a staffing agency and get them signed up. They handle all the bs for you. Your point likely is that you shouldn't need to and I hear that, but as far as your business is concerned, it could work out for you. Link to comment
dhp123166 Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 I have my own business, I am the CEO, CFO, chief technician and the guy what sweeps up the floor at the end of the day. The federal government treats me fine as long as I make my quarterly tax prepayments and the state B.O.E. does too as long as I do the same with my collected state sales tax. The city just needs yearly business license costs and they leave me alone as well. I have a friend who is a licensed contractor and he kinda follows this solo model as well after running a crew for years. He says he has never been busier. Maybe smaller is better. On the other hand my brother-in-law has an alternative energy (solar and wind) business and his chief problem is keeping up with demand. What a problem to have. He is fully legally staffed with benefits, workers comp. and everything the law requires. Oh and he does not use cheap chinese made solar cells as the Chinese have no quality control and all their solar cells are shite, he gets the good German ones... P.S. I never had a problem finding work when I worked in the food business, but then I was intent on paying my bills... 1 Link to comment
Mattndew76 Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 If you could truly use an employee, send them to a staffing agency and get them signed up. They handle all the bs for you. Your point likely is that you shouldn't need to and I hear that, but as far as your business is concerned, it could work out for you. So far easiest way around this is a 1099 form. He/she who performs the work is considered a private contractor and is paid sans all the headache taxes. Then they are responsible for their own tax burdens. I have done this a few times for some companies around town. I went on site to program or make tooling and they paid me at my low shop rate of $60.00 an hour until the work is completed. Then they cut me a cheque in my company name as if buying products from me. Then 1099 me at the end of the year as a contracter. 2 Link to comment
john510 Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 I figured it would be one of the other Trump haters posting this up.We know he's human now,he made a mistake. Link to comment
VFR800 Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 Course if Bern of Sillary made the same "mistake" it'd not be posted up here. (sarcasm) They're all human and their thinking they are fit to be POTUS is their mistake. 2 Link to comment
thisismatt Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 As if he's any less fit than the current or previous... 3 Link to comment
VFR800 Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 As if he's any less fit than the current or previous... Agreed 100%. Doesn't alter his turd level any either. Race to the bottom of the barrel has definitely reached a new low. 1 Link to comment
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