Engine Porn (beyond ... saturation)

[paradime]

If you force feed a hamster enough nirtomethane it'll make 100hp. 

[tr8er]

I might get some flack here, and that's cool, but I am surprised no one fixed/solved the seal issues in the rotary design. Conceptually, a constantly rotating mass makes so much sense compared to hyper speed momentum changes in pistons.

[bananahamuck]

Yeah maybe conceptually but having a car that doesn't surprise people it isn't smoking ,, seems like a better idea in real practice.

 

 

speaking of awesome concepts i got this one off the celica forums the other day

 

When a cat is dropped, it always lands on its feet, and when toast is dropped, it always lands with the buttered side facing down. I propose to strap buttered toast to the back of a cat; the two will hover, spinning inches above the ground. With a giant buttered cat array, a high-speed monorail could easily link major metropolitan areas.

[q-tip]

Yeah maybe conceptually but having a car that doesn't surprise people it isn't smoking ,, seems like a better idea in real practice.

 

 

speaking of awesome concepts i got this one off the celica forums the other day

 

When a cat is dropped, it always lands on its feet, and when toast is dropped, it always lands with the buttered side facing down. I propose to strap buttered toast to the back of a cat; the two will hover, spinning inches above the ground. With a giant buttered cat array, a high-speed monorail could easily link major metropolitan areas.

That's from a commercial from like 5 years ago......fucking internet kids.....

[tr8er]

I'm skeptical. Your logic is sound, but the inference is taking it too far.

 

And I'm out of fucking toast again damnit.

[q-tip]

Now when we say horse power are we talking measurement units produced by a draft horse or a Shetland Pony?

 

Google that shit, the measurement of horse power is not one actual horse.

[paradime]

I might catch some flack for saying this, but running a rotary engine on ethanol solves the main issue of carbon build up on the seal. It also runs cooler than gas with a relative EGT difference of 267 degrees F. There are guys running ethanol without oil injection. 

[paradime]

Google that shit, the measurement of horse power is not one actual horse.

 

Trooooooooooool!

 

[bananahamuck]

That's from a commercial from like 5 years ago......fucking internet kids.....

 

 

 

 

 

Aren't you the same guy that was throwing around unsubstantiated plagiarism claims just the other day??

 

 

 

fixed

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[q-tip]

Trooooooooooool!

You spelled troll wrongid

[q-tip]

 

 

 

Aren't you the same guy that was throwing around unsubstantiated perjury claims just the other day??

 

 

 

 

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Perjury!? I declare shenanigans!!

[bananahamuck]

fixed it ,,,,,,,,,,, my wife told me it was , plagiarism.

 

 

Yes i probably should move my PC away from next to the dinner table

[datsunfreak]

I might catch some flack for saying this, but running a rotary engine on ethanol solves the main issue of carbon build up on the seal. It also runs cooler than gas with a relative EGT difference of 267 degrees F. There are guys running ethanol without oil injection. 

 

Then why not propane? Seems like that could solve all the problems? Plus make it easier to boost.   B)

[q-tip]

fixed it ,,,,,,,,,,, my wife told me it was , plagiarism.

 

 

Yes i probably should move my PC away from next to the dinner table

Are you comfortable putting distance between yourself and the dinner table?

[paradime]

3" line right off the tank

 

Then why not propane? Seems like that could solve all the problems? Plus make it easier to boost.   B)

 Now I'm having impure thoughts Freak. 3" intake straight off the tank. instant 200 psi boost baby.

[tr8er]

I might catch some flack for saying this, but running a rotary engine on ethanol solves the main issue of carbon build up on the seal. It also runs cooler than gas with a relative EGT difference of 267 degrees F. There are guys running ethanol without oil injection.

I was thinking ceramic composite rotor with graphene shell. Running Hydrogen. Why just hint at a solution.

[Stoffregen Motorsports]

Was it the username (chevysrule83), or the fact that the LS uses an I-head OHV pushrod design developed by David Dunbar Buick in 1902.

 

The Oldsmobile's 1949 Rocket V8 has the same valve train as the LS. Materials and manufacturing may be different, but fundamentally it is the same internal cam, pushrod, rocker arm, two valve per cylinder "technology" as the 49 Olds.

 

The fact is, Chevy isn't using the I-head OHV design because it's the best, they use it because it's cheaper to produce than the superior DOHC 4 valve design.

You've never read the story about the LS development project then. Google it and read it. They clearly had their work cut out for them, but their goal was to convince their test drivers that the pushrod LS was a better "feeling" type of driving experience, as compared to the LT5.

 

I am not going to argue the merits of a pushrod arrangment, but you have to admit, the LS is a pretty nice engine, in any configuration.

[ratpatrol66]

If you force feed a hamster enough nirtomethane it'll make 100hp. 

 

and then flames come out the pipe!

[VFR800]

 

[datzenmike]

Just to clarify a horse actually produces about 15 HP at peak output.

 

I doubt this very much. A horse can probably exceed one HP briefly but the HP is based on what a horse can do reliably over at least one hour to get a more accurate measurement. A human can exceed one hp but very briefly and maintain about 1/10 hp.

 

The L20B is based on 746watts = one hp. By no stretch of the imagination does is 'briefly' make 1,500 hp.

[q-tip]

I doubt this very much. A horse can probably exceed one HP briefly but the HP is based on what a horse can do reliably over at least one hour to get a more accurate measurement. A human can exceed one hp but very briefly and maintain about 1/10 hp.

 

The L20B is based on 746watts = one hp. By no stretch of the imagination does is 'briefly' make 1,500 hp.

Why the doubt mike? I know how a horse power is measured. I stated that a horse can make about 15hp at PEAK output, which is a very short period of time, but can be done.

[datzenmike]

People might thing the L20B can make a peak output for a short time. Is it really 15 times as much?

[q-tip]

People might thing the L20B can make a peak output for a short time. Is it really 15 times as much?

The difference being that a mechanical device cannot increase its power output like a horse. If a horse could produce at peak output all the time then the measurement would be different

[paradime]

Mechanical "horsepower" is equivalent to 745.7 watts of energy output. When mechanical power output was first being measured, horses were the common unit of power of that age. Naturally the horse would be used as the standard unit of measurement. The only issue being, the actual power output of a horse is a totally arbitrary measurement when you consider not all horses are equal. 

 

 

[ratpatrol66]

Mechanical "horsepower" is equivalent to 745.7 watts of energy output. When mechanical power output was first being measured, horses were the common unit of power of that age. Naturally the horse would be used as the standard unit of measurement. The only issue being, the actual power output of a horse is a totally arbitrary measurement when you consider not all horses are equal. 

 

 

 

The first video was very impressive. Serious horsepower! The second one made me feel weak.