]2eDeYe Posted March 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Other side is notched... Gonna plate the top and gusset the bottom like so...pic's being better than words :P Quote Link to comment
Farmer Joe Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 that doesnt look like the gussets your talking about there are going to do any substantial strengthening of the notch. the area that needs the reinforcement is gonna be the thin area at the top. especially since now you have a round area removed from the frame. i see the thin area in the frame being very much reduced in strength. i understand also that the pipe is over a 1/4 thick and also the fish plates on the side are 1/4in, but even with plating the top i still see that area having alot of stress and being the breaking point. Quote Link to comment
]2eDeYe Posted March 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Me too, and it is a concern. I'm adding the gussets to try to use more of the arc's surface area to resist bending and to help make me feel better. I'm going to run the coilovers in front of the axle. The rear of the frame past the notch will only be holding the fuel tank and the rear portion of the bed. The bed should add some strength to the overall structure. As far as materials The SCH 80 pipe is a little over 3/8" thick, the side plates are 1/4" and the top plates will also be 1/4". Thanks for the constructive criticism...fresh perspective is always appreciated. Quote Link to comment
Farmer Joe Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 no problem and i hope it didnt come across rudely. its just whenever i see a round notch/recess in a frame, i find that kinda of sketchy. now if it were some chevy fulsize that had a 7in tall frame, i could see taking maybe 3in out for a notch. but on a mini where in most cases the frames are only 3 or 4in tall, taking any of that material out could cause strength problems. now are you gonna be putting the bad back on with no holes it in? if anything, on the top i would see if you could get a piece of 1x2.5in (or however wide the frame is) and that was possibly as thick as you could get and do something similar to greengoons hilux. but since the datsun frame has such a prominent curve, you could make some pie cuts in it to make it match the contour as much as you could. i could see that going forever without any trouble. Quote Link to comment
]2eDeYe Posted March 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Not rude at all, I can look at this all day and not come up with a better way. Someone else might look at it for 5 mins and have a Eureka. That's one of the reasons why I made the thread. Yep, no holes in the bed. I'll basically have a 1 x 2.5 x 1/4 wall (with the 3/8"s pipe being the bottom wall) member at the top of the notch when all the parts are in. I also won't be supporting any of the suspension behind the notch. If there is any room left on top after I get the bed on, which I don't think there will be, I'll add some more structure like in that pic. I would have just cut the rest of the frame off if I didn't have to hold the bed up. I may end up with a removable truss/crossmember side to side/over or under the axle. I'll have to get the four link in and the bed on to see how much room I'll have to work with. Fun stuff, any thoughts on four link geometry? :D Quote Link to comment
BEEBANI Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 what you have is fine Steve, the stock frame is 10ga. (.140) wall at best, you've added double the strength there by far. I would just run a piece of flat bar across the top maybe. I don't see any stress to that section either, so you should be fine. btw, did you get my text today? Quote Link to comment
]2eDeYe Posted March 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 10 guage and 3 ply lol. I got it, but I didn't see it til just now. I texted ya back. Quote Link to comment
Farmer Joe Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 2eDeYe' date='17 March 2010 - 12:56 PM' timestamp='1268852204' post='279032'] Fun stuff, any thoughts on four link geometry? :D welll from what ive read in the thread your goin for coil overs. id just setup a nice simple parallel 4 link with either a panhard or watts link. simple, effective, strong. i could see a parallel 4 link working well with a slightly adjustable panhard bar. that way if you possibly lower/raise the ride height, you can adjust the panhard to get the axle centered back up. Quote Link to comment
]2eDeYe Posted March 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 welll from what ive read in the thread your goin for coil overs. id just setup a nice simple parallel 4 link with either a panhard or watts link. simple, effective, strong. i could see a parallel 4 link working well with a slightly adjustable panhard bar. that way if you possibly lower/raise the ride height, you can adjust the panhard to get the axle centered back up. Yaaaa...no panhard for me. I want the rear axle to stay centered, with no jacking and I only have 4 links. Dual triangulated is where I'm headed :D I am planning for adjustment at the frame side of the links to dial in the AS and roll center. Quote Link to comment
Pacific coast Datsun Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 Steve do you have the rear coilovers picked out yet? Reason i ask is this. Im building a 3 link for a friend & he wants to run them [no bags]. Quote Link to comment
]2eDeYe Posted March 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 Yeah, I bought 4 QA1 #DR4855B. I have 350lb springs for the front and 300lb springs for the rear to start with. 1 Quote Link to comment
goes2fast Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 Steve, Why no new posts in the last month? Here I am sitting on needles and pins, wondering what you are going to do Next!:cool: 1 Quote Link to comment
Eric Garside Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Any updates on this build? 1 Quote Link to comment
]2eDeYe Posted August 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Nope, no updates at the moment. As soon as the red truck gets sold I will be back on this, need funds for sandblasting and coating the cab and bed and for powdercoating the frame. After I have $ for that I will get back to it. 1 Quote Link to comment
Eric Garside Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 How much are you selling the red one for? 1 Quote Link to comment
]2eDeYe Posted August 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 It's not for sale yet. Have to finish up some stuff on it. :D 1 Quote Link to comment
southern620 Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 Any updates on this one? 1 Quote Link to comment
]2eDeYe Posted February 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 It's relaxing in ym garage leaned up against the wall :lol: The red one will be ready for sale in a couple months, then I can get back to this one. :) 1 Quote Link to comment
Eagle_Adam Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 bump - cus i was reading into ur DE swap and didnt even know you had this one..... 1 Quote Link to comment
]2eDeYe Posted September 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 Haha, still leaning against the wall in the garage awaiting a trip to the blasters. :) Couple months :rofl: 3 Quote Link to comment
jrock4224 Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 holy shit adam thank u for the build threads thread ..... yo redeye u shoulda linked me this along time ago....its fucking amazing man 1 Quote Link to comment
Eagle_Adam Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 this is why i posted it!!!! i kept finding shit and wondering what else there was!!!!!!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment
]2eDeYe Posted November 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 Thanks guys It will be more amazing when I finally finish the red truck and it gets me some needed fundage. :) 1 Quote Link to comment
Hooligan Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 Damn damn damn.... this thing is freakin badass. 1 Quote Link to comment
Eagle_Adam Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 Thanks guys It will be more amazing when I finally finish the red truck and it gets me some needed fundage. :) ya NOW you finish the red truck and put it up FS...... made me go and build one myself.... :P 2 Quote Link to comment
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