thanks farmer :) i was trying to avoid the solid rotors, i think i might go with the same calipers and rotors as the front, i work at oreilys and the total cost to me was about 250 bucks for one end, the calipers are the ones that come with the thermoquiet pads as well as lifetime warranty rotors, so im looking at about 500 bucks for all around disc conversion, plus my labor in the brackets, does anybody have any tips for making the brackets?