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5 hours ago, datzenmike said:

 

What???? You're going to espouse that he was picked on unfairly??? that if everyone else can get away with being corrupt that he should also? OK. Say it... Trump is as crooked as any other president that was not convicted so he should be cleared of any wrong doing and his felony conviction overturned.  

politics suck

 

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... and yet you can't resist answering a troll.

 

No ones opinion is swayed by facts. The Democrats don't need their minds swayed so this is for Republicans then? obviously not because they are the fanatic opposite to the Democrats and 'facts' will not sway them. So what's left? undecided voters? just how many are undecided? If all undecided were to vote Republican would they then even manage to win the next election?

 

Going to say the Democrats will win in November. Trump will fizzle out but not go quietly. By '28 he will be too old to be a menace, the GOP will regroup with a more viable candidate.

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2 hours ago, datzenmike said:

... and yet you can't resist answering a troll.

 

No ones opinion is swayed by facts. The Democrats don't need their minds swayed so this is for Republicans then? obviously not because they are the fanatic opposite to the Democrats and 'facts' will not sway them. So what's left? undecided voters? just how many are undecided? If all undecided were to vote Republican would they then even manage to win the next election?

 

Going to say the Democrats will win in November. Trump will fizzle out but not go quietly. By '28 he will be too old to be a menace, the GOP will regroup with a more viable candidate.

You got me. triggered. I saw the shit and yet I still stepped in it.. Fuck this thread.

 

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Destruction is Destruction, Ratsun is Ratsun, it is still a car forum for those of us who love Datsuns, Nissans, and other things where individuals who try, by necessity or principle, to make the most of what they have.  It is not Destruction that will ruin Ratsun, it is the rising value of the vehicles we love. Like in all things, popularity brings profit, profit brings people, people destroy. 

I like Destruction, truthfully, I like working on my projects more, strike that, I like getting projects completed more, but all my projects take money, and money is lacking, ranting on Destruction is free. 

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20 minutes ago, gh0stwerx76 said:

You got me. triggered. I saw the shit and yet I still stepped in it.. Im actually just as ashamed by it as I am ashamed of you for allowing a political thread on a car forum to thrive as a moderator. EVERYONE knows politics and religion has the potential to ruin what once was a sanctuary but since you no longer get out you allow it to be brought to you..fuckin despicable. 

 

 

Destruction is more popular than you think. You're here. Great place for people to vent.

 

If anything is despicable it's politics and religion.

 

 

 

 

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46 minutes ago, datzenmike said:

... and yet you can't resist answering a troll.

 

No ones opinion is swayed by facts. The Democrats don't need their minds swayed so this is for Republicans then? obviously not because they are the fanatic opposite to the Democrats and 'facts' will not sway them. So what's left? undecided voters? just how many are undecided? If all undecided were to vote Republican would they then even manage to win the next election?

 

Going to say the Democrats will win in November. Trump will fizzle out but not go quietly. By '28 he will be too old to be a menace, the GOP will regroup with a more viable candidate.

 

I'm going to disagree on the not swaying anyone's opinion thing, I've known it to happen with others I've seen it and I myself have changed my mind on things I didn't believe previously. I do not expect the believer to change but the people that don't really spend time in political discussion might because they believe things with the flimsiest support because they were basically told so.

 

 

34 minutes ago, gh0stwerx76 said:

You got me. triggered. I saw the shit and yet I still stepped in it.. Im actually just as ashamed by it as I am ashamed of you for allowing a political thread on a car forum to thrive as a moderator. EVERYONE knows politics and religion has the potential to ruin what once was a sanctuary but since you no longer get out you allow it to be brought to you..fuckin despicable. 

 

 

I'd have to guess the traffic on this site is doing fairly well, a lot of that is this thread, 729 pages in 4 years or 15 pages a month.

Post-tits generated 7.5 pages per month and Post-ass 5.8 pages per month. I really don't like the thought of this site dying like my other favorite car sites so what ever keeps things churning and alive I'm all for.

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2 hours ago, Ooph! said:

 

No they wont get it, they will whole heartedly believe that it wasn't true or real socialism.

How do I know this? What is said about the Soviet Union? it wasn't true Communism. Cuba? it wasn't real Communism it was a dictatorship, the same will be repeated for every country that has failed after becoming a socialist utopia.

 

So you believe they're too stupid to get it even after it all comes crumbling down on top of them? I guess the KGB agent has an ounce more faith in them than you do. 

 

Either way it's scary how this KGB agent somehow knew where this ship was headed back in 1984.

 

I think we're at that crossroads in America where we can either let it go completely down in flames, or we can start turning the ship around. There might just be enough people who haven't drank the kool-aid who are starting to slowly push back on this madness. 

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6 hours ago, KELMO said:

Appears to be the same thing for Harris. I don't think a single American has cast a vote for her but here she is.

 

Nobody is talking about this. They just slipped her right in. 

 

 

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47 minutes ago, Ooph! said:

 

I'd have to guess the traffic on this site is doing fairly well, a lot of that is this thread, 729 pages in 4 years or 15 pages a month.

Post-tits generated 7.5 pages per month and Post-ass 5.8 pages per month. I really don't like the thought of this site dying like my other favorite car sites so what ever keeps things churning and alive I'm all for.

I like you Ooph!, I respect your critically thought out positions. MSM shares your perspective on this rating are ratings right? . I dont want this shit when I come here, Ratsun isn't supposed to be about this. there is only 1 ratsun, there are literally countless places to talk about the worlds problems. why the fuck does it need to be here is all im saying. Mike keeps it alive for HIS entertainment, I have it on good account he isn't very popular outside of this forum because he runs this site like it's his not the communities. Politics is just another divisive nail in the hobby coffin. people come here that are new to the hobby, see this blight on the site and often think fuck this and the interest dies as quickly as its born in many cases. Ive physically heard it.

young people arent savvy to forum structure and because this subject is so active it stays right at the top. maybe at least move it off the first page or something so those interested can still get to it but its not the first shit they see on an initial exploration of our forum.

 

 

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14 minutes ago, gh0stwerx76 said:

I like you Ooph!, I respect your critically thought out positions. MSM shares your perspective on this rating are ratings right? . I dont want this shit when I come here, Ratsun isn't supposed to be about this. there is only 1 ratsun, there are literally countless places to talk about the worlds problems. why the fuck does it need to be here is all im saying. Mike keeps it alive for HIS entertainment, I have it on good account he isn't very popular outside of this forum because he runs this site like it's his not the communities. Politics is just another divisive nail in the hobby coffin. people come here that are new to the hobby, see this blight on the site and often think fuck this and the interest dies as quickly as its born in many cases. Ive physically heard it.

 

This site owned and paid for by a good friend of mine whom as I far as I know has never chimed in on the destruction thread. There are no ads nor do thread views make a bit of difference to ANYTHING! As for you not liking politics on the site, I ABSOLUTY LOATH Volkswagen but there are several VW projects posted in the other cars section. It is not difficult to avoid clicking on them even though I do out of a masochistic indulgence once in a while!  😜

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5 minutes ago, Logical1 said:

 

This site owned and paid for by a good friend of mine whom as I far as I know has never chimed in on the destruction thread. There are no ads nor do thread views make a bit of difference to ANYTHING! As for you not liking politics on the site, I ABSOLUTY LOATH Volkswagen but there are several VW projects posted in the other cars section. It is not difficult to avoid clicking on them even though I do out of a masochistic indulgence once in a while!  😜

Yep Im 100% certain Jeff isn't interested in the thread either. Too busy with real life shit. He obviously leaves the forum to be managed by others. Do those VW threads stay at the top so anyone new to our forum starts to explore its vw in their face, nah thats not a solid enough comparison bro also the whole world isn't talking Volkswagen everywhere else either.  In fact as a vw fan also I can tell you the vw forums arent allowing the politics. Thats for Facebook. The mods at samba delete immediately. its not a healthy addition to the forum nor does it have any benefit to the community.

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26 minutes ago, gh0stwerx76 said:

I like you Ooph!, I respect your critically thought out positions. MSM shares your perspective on this rating are ratings right? . I dont want this shit when I come here, Ratsun isn't supposed to be about this. there is only 1 ratsun, there are literally countless places to talk about the worlds problems. why the fuck does it need to be here is all im saying. Mike keeps it alive for HIS entertainment, I have it on good account he isn't very popular outside of this forum because he runs this site like it's his not the communities. Politics is just another divisive nail in the hobby coffin. people come here that are new to the hobby, see this blight on the site and often think fuck this and the interest dies as quickly as its born in many cases. Ive physically heard it.

young people arent savvy to forum structure and because this subject is so active it stays right at the top. maybe at least move it off the first page or something so those interested can still get to it but its not the first shit they see on an initial exploration of our forum.

 

 

 

12 minutes ago, Logical1 said:

 

This site owned and paid for by a good friend of mine whom as I far as I know has never chimed in on the destruction thread. There are no ads nor do thread views make a bit of difference to ANYTHING! As for you not liking politics on the site, I ABSOLUTY LOATH Volkswagen but there are several VW projects posted in the other cars section. It is not difficult to avoid clicking on them even though I do out of a masochistic indulgence once in a while!  😜

 

I see both side to the no politics on a car forum thinking, maybe a compromise could be possible to hide the thread so only members that have a certain amount of posts can see it kind of like posting photo's here, maybe some other idea I dunno.

 I know there is no revenue and am grateful they run it this way all I was bringing out was the fact that this thread is very popular with some of us. I come here and argue because it seems as if most people posting on the thread seem to also enjoy the back and forth, I honestly believe that it does bring about critical thought, well at least in me.

 Regardless of what happens to the political threads, I may not like it but I'll still visit.

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WOW! is a single thread on a FREE ad FREE forum really that upsetting to some folks? 

10 minutes ago, gh0stwerx76 said:

Do those VW threads stay at the top

The thread is at the top BECAUSE so many people talk/vent/meltdown here! I can send you a chrome plugin that will load the site starting from the bottom up if seeing general discussion (talk about ANYTHING) first is that miserable for you! 

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2 hours ago, datzenmike said:

... and yet you can't resist answering a troll.

I clearly can't resist. It's the reason I have 664 comments on Ratsun and only 4 of those are car related. 660 of those comments are of me going at it with you on covid and destruction threads. I also have a permanent red welt on my forehead from constant face palming and smashing my head against my keyboard during our exchanges 😆.

 

since we're on the topic. I've been wondering if there's a way for you to remove my experience points and achievements on Ratsun? I got all my achievements from talking out of my ass on destruction and covid. Don't want new members to confuse my destruction blabbering experience with actual helpful car knowledge/ experience 😃

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55 minutes ago, IZRL said:

 

So you believe they're too stupid to get it even after it all comes crumbling down on top of them? I guess the KGB agent has an ounce more faith in them than you do. 

 

Either way it's scary how this KGB agent somehow knew where this ship was headed back in 1984.

 

I think we're at that crossroads in America where we can either let it go completely down in flames, or we can start turning the ship around. There might just be enough people who haven't drank the kool-aid who are starting to slowly push back on this madness. 

 

Never underestimate the stupidity of the human species, I believe Liberalism as it is today is a mental disorder like addiction and addicts don't just change they almost always need to hit rock bottom and some never get out like the homeless we see.

We may change course but its my belief we are just going to slow the slide not reverse it, eventually it will be a horrible bloody mess, the Soviet union lasted for 69 years and look at how f'd up that was for the people. "The problem with socialism is that you can vote your way into it but you need to shoot your way out of it."

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33 minutes ago, Logical1 said:

WOW! is a single thread on a FREE ad FREE forum really that upsetting to some folks? 

The thread is at the top BECAUSE so many people talk/vent/meltdown here! I can send you a chrome plugin that will load the site starting from the bottom up if seeing general discussion (talk about ANYTHING) first is that miserable for you! 

Alright, Ive expressed  my and others concerns about the continued direction of ratsun. Really no more points to be made, it's just getting personal now..I mean you know the owner right? yeah. whatever. By the way mike, if you can find your way off this thread at some point there's a transimission post by a new guy still learning the forum architecture in the event section you may want to move....

 

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On 8/3/2024 at 9:41 PM, john510 said:

I never cared that Clinton got some head from a young girl much better looking and nicer than his wife. ....

 

Hell I'm better looking that his wife.

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  One of the ways this could get any weirder is for

Kamala to announce AOC as her running mate.

       I'm sure that would be a wet dream to most

Leftists!

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18 hours ago, IZRL said:

 

No sir.... It wasn't that they kept their noses clean. It was that up until Trump, no president has ever been investigated, prosecuted, or convicted. Hard to believe you eat this shit up, calling Trump a felon just like the lefty mob. Every President in history has skeletons in their closets. With how hard they've been going after Trump, for them to only be able to find what they found is unbelievable.

 

Instead of bashing Trump for what, in any other case/person wouldn't have even reached the courts. Why don't you bash the fact that the left ILLEGALLY weaponized the Justice and Judicial systems to try and remove the opposing Presidential nominee. <<<< This should scare the Ba-Jesus out of people, that the Government did this and got away with it. People's TDS is so great that they become blind to what is truly a threat to our democracy right now (THE LEFT).

 

The left is running their campaign on phrases like "Trump is Hitler", "Trump will be the end to Democracy" etc. And the lefty pawns are just nodding along like idiots because of their hate for Trump, not realizing the LEFT is actually the threat. <<< "Therefore by their fruits you will know them."

This is funny.  Trump literally weaponized the FBI and forced an investigation into his running mate at exactly the right time.  Timing being emphasized.  Don't excuse it with Hillary was guilty shit, it wasn't done in an effort to prosecute.  I can't stand her and never could.  But you need to stand on something when you speak, and this is a straight up pot calling kettle black.  Only difference was he had the FBI open an investigation, won the presidency, and failed to prosecute.  Trump never cared about locking her up, he literally just did it for the vote.  

 

regardless of the extent of scrutiny, there surely has never been a president with a similar catalogue of evidence of high crimes.  Trump takes that cake.  

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3 hours ago, gh0stwerx76 said:

I like you Ooph!, I respect your critically thought out positions. MSM shares your perspective on this rating are ratings right? . I dont want this shit when I come here, Ratsun isn't supposed to be about this. there is only 1 ratsun, there are literally countless places to talk about the worlds problems. why the fuck does it need to be here is all im saying. Mike keeps it alive for HIS entertainment, I have it on good account he isn't very popular outside of this forum because he runs this site like it's his not the communities. Politics is just another divisive nail in the hobby coffin. people come here that are new to the hobby, see this blight on the site and often think fuck this and the interest dies as quickly as its born in many cases. Ive physically heard it.

young people arent savvy to forum structure and because this subject is so active it stays right at the top. maybe at least move it off the first page or something so those interested can still get to it but its not the first shit they see on an initial exploration of our forum.

 

 

I respect your opinion about the politics thing but nobody forces anybody to look at "Destruction of America"  At least here differing opinions can be seen unlike sites like Farcebook where a right minded person with an opinion will get shut down immediately. There's a fishing forum I look at daily where they decided to put political discussion in a place where you had to look for it in the forums list. None of the new posts showed up as "new posts" so it wasn't on the main menu page.

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3 minutes ago, tr8er said:

This is funny.  Trump literally weaponized the FBI and forced an investigation into his running mate at exactly the right time.  Timing being emphasized.  Don't excuse it with Hillary was guilty shit, it wasn't done in an effort to prosecute.  I can't stand her and never could.  But you need to stand on something when you speak, and this is a straight up pot calling kettle black.  Only difference was he had the FBI open an investigation, won the presidency, and failed to prosecute.  Trump never cared about locking her up, he literally just did it for the vote.  

 

regardless of the extent of scrutiny, there surely has never been a president with a similar catalogue of evidence of high crimes.  Trump takes that cake.  

I'm confused, you're saying Trump had the FBI investigate Hillary before he was even elected ? How did he do that considering he had NO authority as a candidate ? 

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17 minutes ago, angliagt said:

  One of the ways this could get any weirder is for

Kamala to announce AOC as her running mate.

       I'm sure that would be a wet dream to most

Leftists!

AOC would be a great choice. Harris would look 10X smarter and it would be a guaranteed loss for the Dems. I can only imagine the crap those two would be trying to pull off that would tie the court system up for years. If they could win.

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