datzenmike Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 Meanwhile back in the courthouse in NY..... ... See you July 11, Donny. 1 Quote Link to comment
Duncan Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 (edited) He won't get any jail time. It's a super low grade offense, and the white collar crimes usually have light penalties. I personally think Biden ought to pardon him. Even the liberal commentators are questioning the guilty verdicts on all 34 counts. Prosecutors always pile on a ton of bullshit charges hoping a couple will stick. The 34 guilty verdicts are pretty much showing how this trial doesn't pass the smell test. I think a pardon would sway a lot of votes for (God help us) Joe. I think there are quite a few voters who have had an ass load of this hypocracy. (Especially how the Bidens and the Clintons were all making money from numerous foreign entities) I think that will probably cause Trumps poll numbers (and votes) to increase. I realize the verdicts won't change the diehards, but there are always a lot of voters on the fence, and (like myself) I've had it how bad the liberal Government has fucked everything up so bad. That goes double here in Calizuela. Edited May 31 by Duncan 3 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 They aren't 34 different things, it's the same one over and over. The hush money was broken down into 11 or 12 separate checks so it wouldn't look so obvious. 11 invoices for legal services, 11 checks paid for legal services, 12 ledger entries for legal services. Why pardon? If there was some extreme miscarriage of justice, maybe. Guilty as sin of falsifying business records, pay the piper. 1 Quote Link to comment
frankendat Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 The verdict makes me sad, not because he did or didn't do it, but it will leveraged to validate every silly ass backward political theory from now until the end of the Republic. The only silver lining is if the GOP can muster and find a candidate, that the MAGA base will accept and 20% of the rest of America can stand, then the Dems will be screwed and I could keep four years of peace. How about the Republicans swear to keep Trump on the Whitehouse Staff if they win? He could be a political advisor. Trump still gets the spotlight from time to time and says things that many want said, but will have no real power. The Dems can bitch and moan, MAGA can rally, the socialist takeover will be stalled, America will go back to fighting and getting little accomplished and all will be as it has been. 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 Never! He's an inept boob, a dilettante, a medler and now a criminal. Trust him to stick his nose in a fuck something important up by saying something inappropriate. That's rich. Trump a political adviser. Yeah, what ever he suggests you do the opposite. 1 Quote Link to comment
IZRL Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 (edited) 5 hours ago, Duncan said: I think a pardon would sway a lot of votes for (God help us) Joe. I think the left throwing an ex US president and current candidate under the bus. Is at the bottom of the list of reasons why democrats who will be voting right this year made that decision. The only benefit crooked Joe and his mangey hell hounds (Clinton/Obama) might get from a pardon. Is that Trump might have mercy on them and not bring the skeletons in their closets to light if he wins. I voted for Biden last election😬. I won't vote Democrat again. I'm not sure there's hope for them to come back close enough to the center for me to be on board with them again. Especially if Clinton and Obama are allowed to keep running the country from behind the scenes. The issue nowadays is that some of these so called Republicans are actually dems in reps clothing. Like Michael Johnson, probably got paid a premium for his soul. Edited May 31 by IZRL 1 Quote Link to comment
paradime Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 13 hours ago, iceman510 said: Not a misspelling, it's the wrong word. I don't believe I ever implied or stated explicitly that "all Muslims" act the same. That is your incorrect extrapolation. FYI, Jehovah's Witnesses are not Christian by definition. Not a good analogy. Sorry, not acknowledging your attempt be provocative. I don't think anyone needs to be a feminist to understand her position on fundamentalism. It goes far beyond FGM. My reasoning is not simplistic, but basically fundamental governmental Islam is not compatible with western values and its continued acceptance is our midst is a recipe for disaster. Still driving home your English lesson on pointless semantics? Sorry, not acknowledging your attempt be provocative. I don't believe I ever implied or stated explicitly that your reasoning is simplistic. Merely pointing out that saying "Their faith explains their actions" it seems pretty explicit that you were referring to Muslims in general. If you'd said "fundamental governmental Islam" from the beginning, we wouldn't be having this conversation. FYI, The name Jehovah's Witnesses has nothing to do with a Christian definition. All JWs identify Christ as their savior just like any other. In my youth, I was a JW. My mom, stepdad, and older brother still are. So I can tell you from my personal experience, it was a great analogy. Quote Link to comment
Ooph! Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 If she wasn't rejected by the Dem's before she certainly will be now. She lays it out clearly but dMike still won't watch it. 2 1 Quote Link to comment
IZRL Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 (edited) 2 hours ago, paradime said: Merely pointing out that saying "Their faith explains their actions" it seems pretty explicit that you were referring to Muslims in general. I'm not gonna pretend I know anything about Muslims or the Koran. But from multiple debates I've watched between Christians and Muslims. I understand where iceman is coming from. The Quran has a handful of extreme teachings. Where it says believers will be rewarded for killing others for various "sins". You give a people this book of laws and leave it up to them to decide how deep they're willing to go. It could be a slippery slope. This is one of the debates I've watched. Edited May 31 by IZRL 1 Quote Link to comment
IZRL Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ooph! said: If she wasn't rejected by the Dem's before she certainly will be now. She lays it out clearly but dMike still won't watch it. She was rejected by the left even back when she was part of the party because she apposed a lot of the crazy shit they were up to. She saw where the blue train was heading and she jumped off. Tulsi is a beast, she's the only woman I would vote for if she ran for president. It's only a few minutes long so I'm sure mike will watch it. If it were longer than 8 minutes you'd be pushing it. Edited May 31 by IZRL 3 Quote Link to comment
john510 Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 5 hours ago, Ooph! said: If she wasn't rejected by the Dem's before she certainly will be now. She lays it out clearly but dMike still won't watch it. The Dems rejected her some years ago because she speaks out against their woke bullshit and other new Democrat style policies. 2 Quote Link to comment
john510 Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 The next Trump/Biden poll numbers will be interesting to see. I wonder if this will backfire on the Dems again. 3 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 6 hours ago, Ooph! said: If she wasn't rejected by the Dem's before she certainly will be now. She lays it out clearly but dMike still won't watch it. 5 hours ago, IZRL said: She was rejected by the left even back when she was part of the party because she apposed a lot of the crazy shit they were up to. She saw where the blue train was heading and she jumped off. Tulsi is a beast, she's the only woman I would vote for if she ran for president. It's only a few minutes long so I'm sure mike will watch it. If it were longer than 8 minutes you'd be pushing it. Did 45 falsify business records or not? I think he did and it was proven, "oh it's so unfair, the Dems control the justice system" so sour grapes. Cry me a river. Get another runner for the GOP and move on! I like Tulsi. Perhaps she will become a Republican and run, now that would be interesting. As for Biden an Co. they still have to answer for their brand of evil yet. 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 6 hours ago, IZRL said: I'm not gonna pretend I know anything about Muslims or the Koran. But from multiple debates I've watched between Christians and Muslims. I understand where iceman is coming from. The Quran has a handful of extreme teachings. Where it says believers will be rewarded for killing others for various "sins". You give a people this book of laws and leave it up to them to decide how deep they're willing to go. It could be a slippery slope. This is one of the debates I've watched. The Bible has some fucked up shit in it too. Maybe not as bad. But Christians are selective in what they apply to their lives and cherry pick. Is that how a religion works, you pick what you want to believe? It's always the extremists that you have to worry about. 1 1 Quote Link to comment
difrangia Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 (edited) 16 hours ago, bananahamuck said: Please, if you have the posterior image, do not post, in the interest of national safety !! Might even be one or two fookers on here that'd wanna take a run at IT. Edited May 31 by difrangia 1 4 Quote Link to comment
difrangia Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 8 hours ago, Ooph! said: If she wasn't rejected by the Dem's before she certainly will be now. She lays it out clearly but dMike still won't watch it. Oh, move to Texas, Ms Gabbard. You'd be simply smashing with a cowgirl hat and I'd wager that you could work the bloody hell out of a pair of spurs. TX could use some new common sense blood, and I'm not bashing TX in the slightest; I respect my neighbors . It's just that a TX flip to d'crap is at top of the lib/prog/socialist task list. 1 Quote Link to comment
iceman510 Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 (edited) 13 hours ago, paradime said: Still driving home your English lesson on pointless semantics? Sorry, not acknowledging your attempt be provocative. All JWs identify Christ as their savior just like any other. Not trying to be provocative, and I disagree it's pointless. Exacting words matter. I could have been more specific about the terrorist/fundamentalist factions discussed earlier. Your personal experience may differ, but I won't agree that JWs are Christian. The historic creeds of Christianity affirm the divinity of Christ and the Trinity. JWs do not acknowledge or believe either, despite the position of agreeing with some aspects of Christian belief. Edited May 31 by iceman510 1 Quote Link to comment
Duncan Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 15 hours ago, datzenmike said: They aren't 34 different things, it's the same one over and over. The hush money was broken down into 11 or 12 separate checks so it wouldn't look so obvious. 11 invoices for legal services, 11 checks paid for legal services, 12 ledger entries for legal services. Why pardon? If there was some extreme miscarriage of justice, maybe. Guilty as sin of falsifying business records, pay the piper. If your lawyer handles an NDA agreement, how does paying the lawyer make it illegal? If Stormy signed and accepted payment for adhering to an NDA, how is she not being sued? Is it really illegal to make multiple payments to a lawyer for rendering services? I've actually signed a couple of NDA and non-competing agreements for a few employers myself. They are very common and legal. I don't expect you to answer, of course. I just haven't been paying a whole lot of attention to the finer details of the case. There is a long standing thing here about not prosecuting political opponents. The Clintons broke plenty of laws. Obama was probably worse. GW Bush, equally so. Biden and all of his family has probably been the most brazen out of all of them. Political prosecution is turning us into a third world country. Sooner or later, the Republicans will get their chance at holding the reins, and you know they will do the same. It's what dictators do when they overthrow the government. Also, bear in mind, I'm more concerned about why and who the DOJ and the legal system picks to charge with crimes. I don't see this fairly applied at all. I mean seriously. 30,000 of Hillary's email ended up on an assistants husband's laptop who was found guilty of soliciting minors for sex.. Really? 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 The payments are not illegal but how they were recorded on business ledgers can be. It wasn't a legal expense it was paying back Cohen for him doing the payoff. 1 Quote Link to comment
paradime Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 3 hours ago, iceman510 said: Not trying to be provocative, and I disagree it's pointless. Exacting words matter. Your personal experience may differ, but I won't agree that JWs are Christian. The historic creeds of Christianity affirm the divinity of Christ and the Trinity. JWs do not acknowledge or believe either, despite the position of agreeing with some aspects of Christian belief. Mistakes happen, pointless to keep harping on it. I respect your convictions, but I'm not going to argue the validity of differing Christian beliefs. JWs reject the Nicene Creed because there is no reference to the Trinity in the original writings of the Bible. Personally, I think the whole thing is BS. I believe organized religions revolve around mind control of the masses. Valid or not, my relationship with God is my responsibility. Quote Link to comment
Duncan Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 1 hour ago, datzenmike said: The payments are not illegal but how they were recorded on business ledgers can be. It wasn't a legal expense it was paying back Cohen for him doing the payoff. If he's acting as Trump's agent, that doesn't sound illegal to me. NDA's are legal here, and it's legal to pay the person who agrees to one. No wonder why some people are saying there wasn't any crime. I'm sure there are lot's more nuances, but it still sounds very banana republic like.. 1 Quote Link to comment
bananahamuck Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 (edited) Where we are, there is huge amount of both Jehovah Witness groups and Mennonite colony just a few miles away As backwards as they seem at times , I honestly prefer dealing with Mennonite I have been prayed for at least twice in just the last year . And I don’t even interact with them very much , But I’m good with that. Since they seem to be being doing it for righteous reasons not superior-to-you , as “other” group seem to be. anyways, that’s my take and go . Edited May 31 by bananahamuck Year not month 2 Quote Link to comment
Duncan Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 (edited) I'm not sure how far Costco stores reach, but they are prevalent here in So Cal. The good news is They are bringing back the hot dog and a drink lunch for $1.50 About time for some good news.. Forgot the link.. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/costco-cfo-makes-announcement-1-155240945.html Edited May 31 by Duncan 3 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 43 minutes ago, bananahamuck said: Where we are, there is huge amount of both Jehovah Witness groups and Mennonite colony just a few miles away As backwards as they seem at times , I honestly prefer dealing with Mennonite I have been prayed for at least twice in just the last year . And I don’t even interact with them very much , But I’m good with that. Since they seem to be being doing it for righteous reasons not superior-to-you , as “other” group seem to be. anyways, that’s my take and go . I pray for you any time you post. 1 1 Quote Link to comment
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