datzenmike Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 It's in our nature to explain good and evil concepts as god and devil. In the animal kingdom there is none of this. Lions kill weaker animals, there's no 'evil' in this. Just survival. As just another form of animal, we can't be that much different, well in a survival situation at least. Like shoving someone out of the way to escape a burning building. Our greatest survival strength is grouping together into a tribe. Cooperation to achieve security and food. Strength through unity, the common good. Good supposes it's opposite..bad, or lesser good. Myths arise to explain the concept of both. 3 Link to comment
datzenmike Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 Yes.... but they were all bad! 1 Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 Not E.T., nor Alf....few others too Link to comment
datzenmike Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 My Favorite Martian. Starman 3 Link to comment
RatVonDude Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 If the devil is real, god is a hoax. only if you did alot of acid Link to comment
RatVonDude Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 The only person that was born a poor black boy and grew up to be a rich white woman everyone knows you are refering to Chaz Bono Cher is part Cherokee BTW 1 Link to comment
Jesse C. Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 Wow, what timing of this GIF! And thus, 2017 Begins http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/miguel-ferrer-dead-ncis-los-angeles-actor-was-61-966080 1 Link to comment
flatcat19 Posted January 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 If real? She just lost the election I know, I know Flat, wrong thread WTF. What is this a joke? Politics...Get out. That's not just me. Respect insomniacs enough to knock that shit off. 1 Link to comment
240zness Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 It's in our nature to explain good and evil concepts as god and devil. In the animal kingdom there is none of this. Lions kill weaker animals, there's no 'evil' in this. Just survival. As just another form of animal, we can't be that much different, well in a survival situation at least. Like shoving someone out of the way to escape a burning building. Our greatest survival strength is grouping together into a tribe. Cooperation to achieve security and food. Strength through unity, the common good. Good supposes it's opposite..bad, or lesser good. Myths arise to explain the concept of both. Your right about what it boils down to. When we got together for common good though and got to a surplus the people controlling supplies developed myths , with the help of the church, giving us an incomplete story (especially with Egypt?) making the Bible a good history book? maybe no quote just should've said there might be lion aliens, and the pope is a lizard Link to comment
Rjawm Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 maybe no quote just should've said there might be lion aliens, and the pope is a lizard 1 Link to comment
Lockleaf Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 Animals are not capable of concepts like deceit, selfishness, etc. To insinuate that good and evil don't exist because it doesn't exist for animals is silly. Auschwitz was for a "greater good". Do you truly believe that genocide is just animal nature, not an act of evil? If so, i truly pity you for the world is a much deeper place than you believe. 2 Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 Animals are not capable of concepts like deceit, selfishness, etc. To insinuate that good and evil don't exist because it doesn't exist for animals is silly. Auschwitz was for a "greater good". Do you truly believe that genocide is just animal nature, not an act of evil? If so, i truly pity you for the world is a much deeper place than you believe. I don't think anyone is denying good and evil.... Link to comment
tr8er Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 Auschwitz was for a "greater good".Ummm. Nope. Good and evil are human concepts. Constructs of civilization. Societal standards. They developed in context of herd, pack, society, group, family. Esentially aligned with concepts such as carma or reciprocity. Do something that favors another, they should do something back. You pick ticks off of my back, I'll do the same for you. You take my mate, I'll hit you really hard. Action, reaction. Good earns desirable reaction. God, the devil, heaven, hell, they are real if you empower the idea. For they impact what is real, here, now. Nothing fake about that. But not tangible. Link to comment
RatVonDude Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 Animals are not capable of concepts like deceit, selfishness, etc. To insinuate that good and evil don't exist because it doesn't exist for animals is silly. Auschwitz was for a "greater good". Do you truly believe that genocide is just animal nature, not an act of evil? If so, i truly pity you for the world is a much deeper place than you believe. I think there may be a little different between dogs and cats :rofl: Link to comment
RatVonDude Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 I don't think anyone is denying good and evil.... thats because “Everybody has good and bad forces working with them, against them, and within them.” 2 Link to comment
datzenmike Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 Animals are not capable of concepts like deceit, selfishness, etc. To insinuate that good and evil don't exist because it doesn't exist for animals is silly. Auschwitz was for a "greater good". Do you truly believe that genocide is just animal nature, not an act of evil? If so, i truly pity you for the world is a much deeper place than you believe. Genocide is merely your tribe enforcing it's survival by removing an outside threat to your security and food supply. You are using the term as we have seen it used in the recent past history, where the outside threat isn't really that valid. From a survival stand point it can't be called evil. War with all its conventions and 'rules' is a limited form of genocide. 1 Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 Where's Gato??????? Link to comment
flatcat19 Posted January 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 Right here. Take your politics elsewhere. This isn't hard. Damn near anything goes. If we didn't have Cuz I'd understand. But we have a place for that. This place is not it. Regardless of my stance. (Your) politics make (other) members uncomfortable. Those that can/want to discuss those topics can do so, somewhere else. Insomniacs is the comfortable couch in the garage the garbage man wouldn't pick up and haul away. 1 Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 They don't comprenden :lol: Link to comment
flatcat19 Posted January 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 Fuck. Makes me want to kick a dog. Link to comment
The Taterhead Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 Comprehend * Or Comprende* Either way, you were wrong. 1 Link to comment
Fat510 Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 I can talk political all I want, but once somebody else does it oh boy do I have to call them on it. 1 Link to comment
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