Jester Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 LZ or L, same difference, you want to have access to your chain tensioners with the head on. You will set the location of the slack side guide and the tension side once the head is on. You physically can't do this with the cover on. The timing cover will tap in so don't worry. 3 Quote Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 What they said, chain tensioner is way too far out, take cover off and install head before cover, you'll thank us later :thumbup: 2 Quote Link to comment
Rhino13 Posted May 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 LZ or L, same difference, you want to have access to your chain tensioners with the head on. You will set the location of the slack side guide and the tension side once the head is on. You physically can't do this with the cover on. The timing cover will tap in so don't worry. Ha hah! I'm glad I can use the excuse that it's my first motor build... Thanks guys. 2 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted May 23, 2016 Report Share Posted May 23, 2016 POP! Was that another L owner loosing their virginity??? 4 Quote Link to comment
Rhino13 Posted May 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 POP! Was that another L owner loosing their virginity??? Blood! It's everywhere! H5wagon and I jacked my truck up and found out I have a long tail trans, so once the motor is together all I have to do is put it and the L trans in there and I should be good to go. Which leads me to my next question. Which L motor mounts should I use? I know I use the rubber ones on the truck. 1 Quote Link to comment
Rhino13 Posted May 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2016 My truck is power steering. Can I cap where the hoses come into the steering box and just run it manual? 1 Quote Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted May 25, 2016 Report Share Posted May 25, 2016 It'll be hell to turn I'd imagine, much harder than non ps option. 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted May 25, 2016 Report Share Posted May 25, 2016 You definitely need the two L&R steel engine brackets form an L for an L. Rubber isolator? What ever works. Make it work. PS will be stiff to turn without the power. Can you find a standard 720 box? Power steering allows just 5.5 to 6.5 pounds to turn the wheel by hand. I don't have the info for the turn ratio but the 620 was 19 to 0ne. 1 Quote Link to comment
Lockleaf Posted May 25, 2016 Report Share Posted May 25, 2016 In theory yes, as long as there is fluid in there it should be ok. It would be far better to just get a 720 manual steering box if you can. 1 Quote Link to comment
Rhino13 Posted May 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2016 I have a manual 720 box but the connection is different. Mine has a small u joint coming out of it, the other one I have is a piece that comes out and has two bolt holes. Could I change the shafts in them? Mine is a tilt column, the other is not. 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted May 25, 2016 Report Share Posted May 25, 2016 I forgot the PS box is a longer unit so shorter column. Tilt columns are different again. I did rig up a PS on an L series engine in my 78 620 using a zx PS box. There's room where the smog pump would have been or an air conditioner pump just below the distributor. The block has bolt holes already there and tapped for the bracket. I made up something that fits and mounted a D21 PS pump there. That would be much easier than changing the box and column and you get to keep the powere steering. 1 Quote Link to comment
Rhino13 Posted May 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 We ended up using pieces of both to not change my column, but the steering box is now manual and soooo much easier to turn. The motor is in! Kind of... it's sitting in the hole but it got dark on me so it's not bolted up at all. Just need to bolt trans to motor, bolt trans to the cross member, bolt motor in, then bolt in cross member. I'm going to get up early and start on it, I don't go in to work until 10 so if I get an early start I could potentially have it mostly together by the time I leave and hopefully running and driving by tomorrow night! Pictures after I eat. 2 Quote Link to comment
Jester Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 Just leave the fluid in the box and connect the two ports together. Glad to hear it is in. Pics bitch!!! 2 Quote Link to comment
Rhino13 Posted May 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 Just leave the fluid in the box and connect the two ports together. Glad to hear it is in. Pics bitch!!! I already swapped it to a manual box I had lying around so it's perfect now. Only other pictures are of pulling the motor I don't want to rush it, but I know exactly what I need to do to get it going. I have a weber adapter and all the big washers for the manifolds studs now thanks to Al. Got all the head bolts thanks to Mike, Adam, and Jessie. We pieced together one set out of 3 haha. Mike also brought me an exhaust manifold and downpipe. I have quite a bit of tube I can use to get it down around the torsion bar. 2 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 Unless you seal the tailshaft up the oil will pour out while installing the transmission. Easy to fill when in, and you have to check it when it's level anyway. 3 Quote Link to comment
Charlie69 Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Duct tape works wonders here or better yet stick a spare yoke it in. 2 Quote Link to comment
Rhino13 Posted May 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 It's in! Only problem is I have to either notch the cross member or find a pan that works. I'm thinking 620 might be the ticket, but we'll see. For now the cross member is out because Mike needs the engine hoist to pull his motor, then the guy Tom who it belongs to needs it to drop in his motor. I'm leaving it jacked up until I figure out the pan/cross member situation. 620 mounts work perfect. Even though my truck has Nissan badges all over it, I'm glad my valve cover can back me up that it's a Datsun! 3 Quote Link to comment
Draker Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 Looks good man! Hit the junk yard and snag all the 720 datsun badges. Lol 2 Quote Link to comment
Rhino13 Posted May 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 Looks good man! Hit the junk yard and snag all the 720 datsun badges. Lol Thank you! I'm so stoked! What I really need to snag is a Datsun tailgate... Or straighten and use the one in my yard. I actually like my Nissan badges, it has the red and blue above and below the logo, looks all race like haha. If it was a Honda they'd probably add at least 10 hp per badge. 3 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 Too much to read... what's the L20B out of??? 1 Quote Link to comment
Rhino13 Posted May 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 Too much to read... what's the L20B out of??? No worries, it's an lz22. When I got all the parts for the original l20b I was given a 521 pan because of my plans to get my 521 going sooner. 2 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 521 pan should be close to fitting. All truck pans need front clearance for steering cross-rod and the bolt in torsion bar support. 1 Quote Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 Rhino, I've got a cherry picker if you need to borrow it, it's available, you'll need to come get it though.... 2 Quote Link to comment
Rhino13 Posted May 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 521 pan should be close to fitting. All truck pans need front clearance for steering cross-rod and the bolt in torsion bar support. 521 is very close, but the back side of the lowest drop down touches the front of the cross member. 620 puts it perfectly in place, and I got one thanks to Hogie. Asked him about it and he was here with one in 10 minutes! Great service Hogie. 2 Quote Link to comment
Charlie69 Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 Man I love the way you guys help each other out. If I could take the cold winters I would move up there just for the brotherhood you all share up there. 2 Quote Link to comment
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