mrmark Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 How much money would it take to make my B310 sound like this?!?!?!?????? My pants are getting tight just imagining it! Quote Link to comment
bonvo Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 well considering the fact that its a bike engine it revs very high and ots straight piped so your options are swap in bike motor and straight pipe it or sink thousands apon thousands of dollars into your a series to make it rev like that then straight pipe it \\ every engine has its own unique sound so if you want that exact sound you need that exact engine Quote Link to comment
mrmark Posted November 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 I think I could live with that! A suzuki powered 310. Would be cheaper/easier/possibly quicker accelerating to do a KA swap. But man! what a sound!! Quote Link to comment
INDY510 Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 Would be cheaper/easier/possibly quicker accelerating to do a KA swap. But man! what a sound!! KA24 would be %10 the price and time/labor ...... you'd need to redisign alot of the car and custom one off parts/alot of weight reduction those Smart car Hayabusa kits are around $50,000-$100,000 by the time they're finished with a chain sprocket LSD diff. and no reverse Quote Link to comment
Dat Lurka Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 Psssh I bet a 240z you can put a bike engine in your datto for under 5k$ If anyone wants to take that bet let me know. As soon as I get home to my roadster that's what I plan to do. Quote Link to comment
Npdavies. Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 My $.02, 13b ported would sound pretty damned similar and be cheaper. Not necessarily easier but at least you'd have a reverse. :lol: Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 This came up years ago. How much power does the bike motor make. At what RPMs. Yeah good luck slipping the clutch for half a block to get going. The larger A series will have monster torque at lower speeds. You will have to cut the weight down to 500-600 pounds and up the gearing.. Quote Link to comment
mrmark Posted November 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 This came up years ago. How much power does the bike motor make. At what RPMs. Yeah good luck slipping the clutch for half a block to get going. The larger A series will have monster torque at lower speeds. You will have to cut the weight down to 500-600 pounds and up the gearing.. Well…. I'm not trying to run 9's in the quarter so my 2000 lb car with 180 hp will be plenty fast not to mention entertaining as hell when I scream past 13,000 rpm :w00t: Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 What does the bike weigh that that motor is in ??? 500-600 pounds??? Imagine that bike with 4 more bikes on it and driving around with 2000 pounds. It'll be a pig. Quote Link to comment
Dat Lurka Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 ^ have you even looked at 2000 pound cars with motorcycle engines?? Quote Link to comment
legitimate_datto_scientist Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 i thought this was the "project build" section, not make-believe unicorn land 4 Quote Link to comment
MicroMachinery Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 i thought this was the "project build" section, not make-believe unicorn land Welcome to Ratsun. 2 Quote Link to comment
Dat Lurka Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 Man I wanted to reply to that but wasn't sure what to say. You nailed it! Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 Mike, that bike engine in stock form has MORE TORQUE than a Datsun 210 engine. With rejetting it can pull a car. The transmission is another question. Quote Link to comment
mrmark Posted November 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 Mike, that bike engine in stock form has MORE TORQUE than a Datsun 210 engine. With rejetting it can pull a car. The transmission is another question. Thank You! It might be possible to build my A14 to rev to 12,000 rpm but i don't think it would last very long and It wouldn't sound the same. Plus, I can find a complete bike, running for less than $5000. Which would give me the engine/trans, wiring harness, gauge cluster, etc. So it's not a pipe dream or fantasy. It'll be a crap ton of frustrating hard work but the result would be a hellova lot of fun with a soundtrack so fantastic… I may not need a radio! Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 Yeah my 'superbike' knowledge is 30 years out of date. The torque range is likely above where the A14 can rev. Maybe a H-150 7.545 rear diff???? :lol: Quote Link to comment
banzai510(hainz) Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 do a rotary if you going to do this? Otherwise your in Fantasy land You got a 210 cause your cheap. Cheap = project ends after you think how much beer/guns/ect you could have bought instead. Quote Link to comment
DaBlist Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 Dreaming is fun and sometimes it's all that keeps us going when there are no funds. I say we use "Project Datto" for actual under contruction projects and start a new topic "Dream Datto Builds" or something like that so we have a place for real projects and a different place for the imaginary what ifs, someday when i get the money etc. builds. One for what you are doing and one for what you are planning, dreaming, or wondering. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 Dreaming?? Absolutely!!!! Shit yeah. Ideas should be kicked around lest you overlook something. New ideas, alternatives. I spent 6 months thinking about power steering in my 620. I researched how a PS system works. I dreamed about it at night. Drew pictures in my spare time. Thought about it in my spare time. Collected the parts. Then started. If someone finds fault with your 'dream' take a look at it. Maybe there is a problem.. if there is, it saved you some trouble. Can it be fixed or worked around? If yes then again better now than later. Quote Link to comment
wayno Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 I would like to see what that track vehicle in the background is myself, see it run and move, it likely could go almost anywhere if it's in fact a functioning vehicle. Quote Link to comment
DRIVEN Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 http://community.ratsun.net/topic/32711-1200-hayabusa/ Quote Link to comment
INDY510 Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 and It wouldn't sound the same. Plus, I can find a complete bike, running for less than $5000. Which would give me the engine/trans, wiring harness, gauge cluster, etc. So it's not a pipe dream or fantasy. It'll be a crap ton of frustrating hard work When I was 18 (9 years ago) ... . right out of high school, I tore my 510 apart with high hopes of making a very loud/fast, and fuel efficient motor swapped 510 with no Datsun Forums to read, I decided not to do a Rotary swap because BryanF's yellow fever 510 looked like too much work for me ... :lol: Why spend $5k on a running bike?? .... . it only took me $700 on a Yamaha R6 motor to realize it's never going to fit/work/drive for less than $10k, and tons of custom parts, weight reduction, chassis redisigning, custom chain drive LSD, and LOTS of welding .... I didn't even have a welder then, and now that I do, I don't EVER want a bike engine Datsun, and Rusty Ruby would be the best canidate ... a motor out of a "car" will be WAY cheaper/easier/possible ... . you could have two KA24 swapped Datsuns for half the money/time You'd be better off building a rear engine "go-cart" that has similar demensions to your Datsun: ... don't start cutting up your Datsun When I found the510realm and Ratsun in 2007 .... EVERYONE told me it was going to be too much work, and in the end not enough torque ... I did what you're doing,, , and said "FUUU you guys,,, this shit will work,, and I'll make the first ever: all carbon fiber 510 Dreaming?? Absolutely!!!! Shit yeah. Ideas should be kicked around lest you overlook something. New ideas, alternatives. I spent 6 months thinking about power steering in my 620. I researched how a PS system works. I dreamed about it at night. Drew pictures in my spare time. Thought about it in my spare time. Collected the parts. Then started. If someone finds fault with your 'dream' take a look at it. Maybe there is a problem.. if there is, it saved you some trouble. Can it be fixed or worked around? If yes then again better now than later. This is why we post our ideas on Ratsun,,, so you can get it out of your system, while someone play's the Devil's advocate if you don't take reasonable advice,, you'll do what I did, and go through 4 different motors, until you end up with a stock motor again in 8 years 1 Quote Link to comment
Skib Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 ... don't start cutting up your Datsun 1 Quote Link to comment
sedition88 Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 Indy knows from experience Quote Link to comment
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