freekwonder Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 Unless Dave decides to make some more, they are all gone! I was going to get one for my 620, but no more. :wacko: :no: Wish I would have grabbed one when I had the chance, just could never get the funds. To bad we can't convince Dave to start making them again or share how he made with somebody who is willing to make/sell them for the community. Quote Link to comment
jrock4224 Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 Wish I would have grabbed one when I had the chance, just could never get the funds. To bad we can't convince Dave to start making them again or share how he made with somebody who is willing to make/sell them for the community. I thought they were sold on a z parts page too but iirc they were always back ordered but yes I agree I wish dave or someone made these....I was about to buy like 2 sets for myself and im sure my buddy would have picked up two too .... if not a third for future considerations Quote Link to comment
freekwonder Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 I thought they were sold on a z parts page too but iirc they were always back ordered but yes I agree I wish dave or someone made these....I was about to buy like 2 sets for myself and im sure my buddy would have picked up two too .... if not a third for future considerations I believe they were getting their kits from Dave, so when he stopped they stopped. Though I saw this on their site. Not sure how serious it can be taken http://www.thezstore.com/page/TZS/PROD/classic08d11/12-4250 "Availability: Unfortunately a key component to this kit has become unavailable. We are working with the manufacturer with the hope of being able to make these kits again in the future. We'll update this page with any new information" Quote Link to comment
goes2fast Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 The key component is the whole kit! :blink: :hyper: 1 Quote Link to comment
]2eDeYe Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 I would buy another one for sure. Possibly 2 if available. :) 1 Quote Link to comment
jrock4224 Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 lets email them or dave and beg .... Quote Link to comment
Tristin Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 "Availability: Unfortunately a key component to this kit has become unavailable. We are working with the manufacturer with the hope of being able to make these kits again in the future. We'll update this page with any new information" The key component is the whole kit! :blink: :hyper: The key component that no longer available is the chip that runs these things. There was a guy doing the chip flashes and he no longer has any interest in continuing production. Thats also on top of the tediuos process of putting the kits together that Dave no longer finds enjoyable. lets email them or dave and beg .... Dave and I have actually talked about it over FB before. Hes not too thrilled in starting up again since the construction of the units is such a PITA as well as trying to convince the chip guy to work again. The wheels are turning ever so slightly to see if these can be started again... No one should hold their breathe though. Quote Link to comment
freekwonder Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 The key component that no longer available is the chip that runs these things. There was a guy doing the chip flashes and he no longer has any interest in continuing production. Thats also on top of the tediuos process of putting the kits together that Dave no longer finds enjoyable. Dave and I have actually talked about it over FB before. Hes not too thrilled in starting up again since the construction of the units is such a PITA as well as trying to convince the chip guy to work again. The wheels are turning ever so slightly to see if these can be started again... No one should hold their breathe though. Would Dave be willing to pass on the knowledge of the wiring and the EZ box? What chip is getting flashed and how? Can we find somebody else that can flash these chips, can't be the only person out there. Quote Link to comment
Tristin Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 Would Dave be willing to pass on the knowledge of the wiring and the EZ box? What chip is getting flashed and how? Can we find somebody else that can flash these chips, can't be the only person out there. Ive already asked him these questions... so far no forward progress. Im trying to work it though. Ive been soldering for the Navy for like 7 years and have no issues with wiring and programing. I said I would take on all work except for the machining that needs to be done for the cases these come in. Hes holding on pretty tight to the design and the guy doing th chips... I dont even know. Im trying to get these available again. Ratsun will be the first to know if there are updates. 4 Quote Link to comment
freekwonder Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 Ive already asked him these questions... so far no forward progress. Im trying to work it though. Ive been soldering for the Navy for like 7 years and have no issues with wiring and programing. I said I would take on all work except for the machining that needs to be done for the cases these come in. Hes holding on pretty tight to the design and the guy doing th chips... I dont even know. Im trying to get these available again. Ratsun will be the first to know if there are updates. Thanks for all the leg work. Kind of sucks when people have no plans to reproduce a product and hold on to the information and don't share it. :angry: Let me know if there is anything I can help with. 1 Quote Link to comment
Tristin Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 I have to go over to his place soon for another project were working on, so Ill keep pressuring him. 1 Quote Link to comment
tr8er Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 If he's holding on to the information, it must be because: A. He's considering making them again, B. He is hoping he can sell the information. Either one may lead to my car having a push button ignition. I'll keep my fingers crossed, and offer any help I can offer from over the Pacific. This was a big deal to us button lovers. Quote Link to comment
Tristin Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 If he's holding on to the information, it must be because: A. He's considering making them again, B. He is hoping he can sell the information. Either one may lead to my car having a push button ignition. I'll keep my fingers crossed, and offer any help I can offer from over the Pacific. This was a big deal to us button lovers. Pretty much no to both A & B. He dropped the project and really doesnt want anything to do with it... like I said, Ive been talking about it and most of it gets the project nowhere. He doesnt seem like hes interested in selling off the info and hes really not interested in making them again. Ill keep working the situation. Maybe itll be easier to discuss next time Im over at his house. Right now, we are exactly in the same spot we were when this project was abandoned. If there are any updates Im sure either he will come in here or Ive successfully got him to hand over the reigns and then then Ill be in here updating everyone. Quote Link to comment
goes2fast Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 Pretty much no to both A & B. He dropped the project and really doesnt want anything to do with it... like I said, Ive been talking about it and most of it gets the project nowhere. He doesnt seem like hes interested in selling off the info and hes really not interested in making them again. Ill keep working the situation. Maybe itll be easier to discuss next time Im over at his house. Right now, we are exactly in the same spot we were when this project was abandoned. If there are any updates Im sure either he will come in here or Ive successfully got him to hand over the reigns and then then Ill be in here updating everyone. He told me he was investing so much time in making them, that he wasn't making hardly any money, I suggested raising the price enough to make it worth while, and see if there is still interest. There are universal kits out there that cost around $300, and they are not plug and play. You have to do a lot more wiring to install, and they don't look factory like the DZ. 3 Quote Link to comment
maltese Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 I'd gladly pay Dave for his hard work, and ingenuity. Still kicking myself, for not pulling the trigger on his kit, when MSA still had them. Have had zero luck finding a second hand kit, too. I'll keep an eye on this thread. Thanks for giving it a shot, Tristin. Quote Link to comment
]2eDeYe Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 Have had zero luck finding a second hand kit, too. That's because no one would want to get rid of it once they have it installed :) 1 Quote Link to comment
heretic Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 If you're watching this thread Dave. I too would buy AT LEAST one, possibly two. Quote Link to comment
mrbigtanker Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 I am sure glad i got mine when i did.With the GTR start/stop button. 1 Quote Link to comment
BlueDat Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 well this thread went to shit . glad I broke my usual habit of reading the whole damned thing before being let down at the end. lol.. meanwhile i'll just redo the stocker with a universal keyed setup and retain the stock plug and wait for an OG one to pop up. Quote Link to comment
jrock4224 Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 ok thanks for the valuable contribution .,....lol that goes for me too .... still bent I didn't buy these sooner... Quote Link to comment
Eric Garside Posted November 16, 2013 Report Share Posted November 16, 2013 Add me to the list of procrastinators that is still kicking himself for not buying one when they were available :/ Quote Link to comment
BlackBird620 Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 Add me to the list of procrastinators that is still kicking himself for not buying one when they were available :/They're still available just not at the same price I'll try to find the link http://www.thezstore.com/page/TZS/CTGY/IA44 hmm well Dave might ought to start making them again they quit making the start modules Quote Link to comment
tr8er Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 Pretty sure Dave made those for them. I'm guessing they are knocking on his door as well. Quote Link to comment
Just Joel Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 This ^^^^ Quote Link to comment
jrock4224 Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 Repost of two pages ago ...... They have none Quote Link to comment
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