Cuz Merica

[tr8er]

Haha. It'll either be 2 or 8 imo

[KoHeartsGPA]

I know you guys on the left love that single payer system, the reality is it will not work in this country as we stand here with $20+ trillion in debt along with 300+ million people in wich less than half of them pay taxes.

 

Sorry to break it to you, IT DOESN'T PENCIL OUT.

[datzenmike]

I point out how our health care works here and... 'you're a fucking socialist'

 

 

 

Your heath care system has been pissing in your face and telling you it's raining.... and you believe it, and support it. There's always some explanation why it's soooo great.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Told ya.

[KoHeartsGPA]

Do the math and prove me wrong!

[dhp123166]

Darn good reason for it and reason it is not going to stop. How did Trump win? Stood up for himself through all the lies the media tried to tie him down with by making up his own.

 

 

Fixed it.

[125 CSL]

Fixed it.

yea, right, and Hillary Clinton is as pure and the driven snow.

[KoHeartsGPA]

dhp still butt hurt?

[racerx]

FUBAR!

[tr8er]

yea, right, and Hillary Clinton is as pure and the driven snow.

Holy fuck. Stop defending Trump with "but Hillary..." It's fucking weak. Hillary is an embarrassment. They are two people, both worthy of independent critique. This duality you keep perpetuating is what put us in this nightmare. Fucking controlled opposition. Defend Trump on his own merit. I know it's not easy. But he has good qualities.

[240zness]

Fixed it.

 

[datzenmike]

Do the math and prove me wrong!

 

Do what math.. that you're 20 trillion in debt...I believe you.

 

Health care system change, if any, will be slow or not at all. Fuck private insurers let them go out of business same with drug companies. Government is the insurer and pays the bill. Hospitals/doctors get paid flat rate for services by the government, they don't like it and are good enough, they can go into private practice. Maybe their 'medical student loans' could be traded for years of service. People don't pay and have more to save or spend . Government collects taxes... not necessarily new taxes. Hospitals and dug prices and the FDA are kept in check. Just who the fuck thought a toe nail fungus cure was needed????? Fucking drug companies can start making cures for things instead of treating the symptoms.

[tr8er]

Do the math and prove me wrong!

The math has been done so many times you should be blind from reading it.

 

Here's just one. Focused on our current wonderful system.

The single payer solution would create one buyer, the government, with no motivation to prescribe overpriced bullshit. Prices would drop, advertising money would be put into care, corporate litigation expenses would be demolished, research would once again be taken seriously. Paying this mega middleman (insurance companies) is possibly the stupidest thing an industry has ever successfully lobbied for. We pay, and have been paying for decades, more than anyone for care. And our care sucks. Sorry to break it to you. Go to a hospital in Thailand, or China, or Japan. Tell me how cutting edge and great we are.

http://truecostofhealthcare.net/the_pharmaceutical_industry/

[125 CSL]

Holy fuck. Stop defending Trump with "but Hillary..." It's fucking weak. Hillary is an embarrassment. They are two people, both worthy of independent critique. This duality you keep perpetuating is what put us in this nightmare. Fucking controlled opposition. Defend Trump on his own merit. I know it's not easy. But he has good qualities.

LOL!! don't ya' just love it when liberals take that full leaping dive off the deep end.

Well the election was between the Felon and Trump,...though it should have been Sanders vs Trump. If and when talking about the election who in the world should I use as the other side? Perhaps Pocahontas(aka Elizabeth Warren)? Who?

[dhp123166]

yea, right, and Hillary Clinton is as pure and the driven snow.

 

 

You mean President-Elect Trump did not tell outrageous lies in the battle for the White House?

 

I must have been watching a different election.

 

In case you forgot; http://www.politicususa.com/2016/10/31/donald-trump-destroyed-fact-checker-reveals-trump-lies-20-37-times-day.html

 

This ain't about Hillary dude.

 

Your default blame setting is not going to work if it all goes south.

 

I hope it doesn't, I want President- Elect Trump to do well because as an American if he does well, we all do well.

 

We'll see as of the 20th of January though won't we.

 

 

dhp still butt hurt?

 

 

Not me bro', I thought that is what you went in for surgery for, to repair your prolapsed rectum....

[paradime]

I know you guys on the left love that single payer system, the reality is it will not work in this country as we stand here with $20+ trillion in debt along with 300+ million people in wich less than half of them pay taxes.

 

Sorry to break it to you, IT DOESN'T PENCIL OUT.

Holy shit am I fucking sick of this narrow right vs left crap defining this debates.

 

So you're saying our for profit insurance provided health care system that is clearly rigged against the consumer has helped economic growth in the private sector? You want business to succeed, kill the healthcare leaches. 

[dhp123166]

LOL!! don't ya' just love it when liberals take that full leaping dive off the deep end.

Well the election was between the Felon and Trump,...though it should have been Sanders vs Trump. If and when talking about the election who in the world should I use as the other side? Perhaps Pocahontas(aka Elizabeth Warren)? Who?

 

It transpired like it did, now you have to deal with the consequences.

 

If you can't take the smell, get out of the bathroom.

[dhp123166]

Glad yr. back Paradime.

[KoHeartsGPA]

The math has been done so many times you should be blind from reading it.

Here's just one. Focused on our current wonderful system.

The single payer solution would create one buyer, the government, with no motivation to prescribe overpriced bullshit. Prices would drop, advertising money would be put into care, corporate litigation expenses would be demolished, research would once again be taken seriously. Paying this mega middleman (insurance companies) is possibly the stupidest thing an industry has ever successfully lobbied for. We pay, and have been paying for decades, more than anyone for care. And our care sucks. Sorry to break it to you. Go to a hospital in Thailand, or China, or Japan. Tell me how cutting edge and great we are. http://truecostofhealthcare.net/the_pharmaceutical_industry/

Yes!, i like it and support it along with what Mike posted in relation....where's the math?

[tr8er]

LOL!! don't ya' just love it when liberals take that full leaping dive off the deep end.

Well the election was between the Felon and Trump,...though it should have been Sanders vs Trump. If and when talking about the election who in the world should I use as the other side? Perhaps Pocahontas(aka Elizabeth Warren)? Who?

Election is over. Has been for over a week. Trump is standing alone in his critique. How does Clinton play a role now? Even then? That is the fucking trap of controlled opposition. It's like choosing between getting fisted in the ass, or taking the dick. I'm not about to say how fucking great getting fucked in the ass is because fisting is terrible. I'm going to choose not getting fucked in the ass. And I did. because there were more than two candidates. Sadly, it seems there are largely only two kinds of idiots in the US. Those who vote against A. Or those who vote against B.

 

 

Stop voting against please.

[KoHeartsGPA]

Holy shit am I fucking sick of this narrow right vs left crap defining this debates.

 

So you're saying our for profit insurance provided health care system that is clearly rigged against the consumer has helped economic growth in the private sector? You want business to succeed, kill the healthcare leaches.

 

Insurance and big pharmaceutical companies are funneling cash to politicians, as promising and nice single payer sounds, won't happen until the swamp is drained, if Obama and the rest of the Dems really really really cared like he claimed, he would have done it in the same manner obamacare did, take from this what you wish, but deep inside you know I'm right.

[dhp123166]

I am definitely not a fan of President-Elect Trump and his Twitter bombs;

 

It makes him look stupid and uninformed.

 

https://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/12/28/nyt-s-amy-chozick-give-trump-credit-his-refreshing-use-twitter/214907

[Jesse C.]

I am definitely not a fan of President-Elect Trump and his Twitter bombs;

 

It makes him look stupid and uninformed.

 

https://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/12/28/nyt-s-amy-chozick-give-trump-credit-his-refreshing-use-twitter/214907

 

Well, at least he doesn't look like a Back Stabbing Hypocrite

 

[john510]

Do what math.. that you're 20 trillion in debt...I believe you.

 

Health care system change, if any, will be slow or not at all. Fuck private insurers let them go out of business same with drug companies. Government is the insurer and pays the bill. Hospitals/doctors get paid flat rate for services by the government, they don't like it and are good enough, they can go into private practice. Maybe their 'medical student loans' could be traded for years of service. People don't pay and have more to save or spend . Government collects taxes... not necessarily new taxes. Hospitals and dug prices and the FDA are kept in check. Just who the fuck thought a toe nail fungus cure was needed????? Fucking drug companies can start making cures for things instead of treating the symptoms.

How can anybody believe it's this simple ? 

[KoHeartsGPA]

[datzenmike]

I am definitely not a fan of President-Elect Trump and his Twitter bombs;

 

It makes him look stupid and uninformed.

 

https://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/12/28/nyt-s-amy-chozick-give-trump-credit-his-refreshing-use-twitter/214907

 

Because this is what the great unwashed masses thrive on. It's at their level.