ol' 320 Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 Now you can use them for tow hooks ... Quote Link to comment
earlyvws Posted March 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 So lots of little progress. Currently working on the notch and the datsun. Had a little shock when working on the motor. Turns out it is not a L20B. Instead it is a L18. So I am not going to spend a lot of money on this motor. Just use it for now and I want to do a ka24de swap latter. Did some research and it sounds like the FS5W71B tranny will work with a KA. Is this correct? Is this a good combo or just a compromise. It looks like I have the long version. If it works well then it sounds like it solves a few issues such as driveline after I have one made. There is a guy on CL with a KA 5 speed for $300 right now. Is that a better option? Quote Link to comment
ol' 320 Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Are you sure that is an L18? If you post the engine number I bet DatzenMike could let you know for sure. I'm pretty sure that engine you showed me has later manifolds on it. I don't think a KA trans will work with your L engine. The NAPZ may be the one where you can change the bell housing from KA to L pattern. I think the 80 720 had a L pattern. Again, DatzenMike seems to be the tranny guru. L18 makes some nice RPM Quote Link to comment
earlyvws Posted March 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 The block says L18 on the right side. I want to know if a KA24de motor and a FS5W71B tranny is a good combo. Reason being is if I get the L18 and the. FS5W71B installed then later I can swap out just the motor. But if I have to change the tranny too then I will probably have to change the drive shaft etc. just trying to figure out what to spend money on now because I will change over as soon as I have everything for a ka24de swap. Quote Link to comment
datson4life Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Many prefer l18 over l20b, the ka tranny needs bellhousing mods to work on l engine Quote Link to comment
jrock4224 Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 u wont be able to just swap it later ... it takes a bell housing swap that cant be done in the rig .... and a few other mods as well ... Quote Link to comment
earlyvws Posted March 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Maybe I'm using the wrong terms. Everyone seems to think I'm trying to use the L18 motor with a KA tranny. I want to use a KA24de motor with the older 5 speed tranny I already have. Quote Link to comment
DanielC Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 My understanding, the L-engines have a tilt, or lean to the right, and other Datsun, or Nissan engines do not, or tilt differently. Transmissions for L engines, and and other Datsun engines may bolt up to each other, but the tilt would not match. So either the engine or the transmission mounts would not line up, and the shifter my come up at an awkward angle. Quote Link to comment
earlyvws Posted March 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Can that be done? Quote Link to comment
earlyvws Posted March 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Ok so if I do a KA24de swap I should plan for a KA tranny swap as well. So that means I'm not going to get a professional drive shaft now, I will clean up the one I already have and get a new one when I do the KA swap. Quote Link to comment
jrock4224 Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 My understanding, the L-engines have a tilt, or lean to the right, and other Datsun, or Nissan engines do not, or tilt differently. Transmissions for L engines, and and other Datsun engines may bolt up to each other, but the tilt would not match. So either the engine or the transmission mounts would not like up, and the shifter my come up at an awkward angle. this si the other i was talking about ... daniel c always brings the facts... always a good contributor Quote Link to comment
jrock4224 Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Maybe I'm using the wrong terms. Everyone seems to think I'm trying to use the L18 motor with a KA tranny. I want to use a KA24de motor with the older 5 speed tranny I already have. same problem still .. and a tthat point why not use the ka tranny.. Quote Link to comment
DanielC Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Hey, thanks. By the way, I meant line up,not like up. 1 Quote Link to comment
jrock4224 Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 yeah well if he can make sense of my posts i bet yours are easy .,...lol Quote Link to comment
earlyvws Posted March 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 Well I wasn't going to do a head gasket on this because I wanted to keep the cost down on this motor. But since I had to buy a full gasket kit I figured might as well do it. So my rattle can rebuild now will have all new gaskets and timing chain kit. So to keep cost down I did the low budget head surface job. I cleaned the valves and checked to see if they leaked and they didn't. So I think I'm all ok on this head. This is actually not a cheap alternative for this. It cost me $0 because u had all the materials. If u have to buy everything it will actually cost more then a machine shop. So what I used: Mirror 2'x3' (a piece of granite would be better) Sticky continuos roll sand paper 80/180/400 The setup Couple of passes on the 80 grit to see how bad the head is Finished in 80 grit 180 grit 400 grit with wd40 on the paper Gonna call this done. I probably would go higher but there isn't 600 sticky paper that I am aware of. 1 Quote Link to comment
jrock4224 Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 there is in long board rolls like your using but most jobbers dont stock it ..... i believe carbo goes all the way up to 800 in l/b rolls...i like the idea curious to see outcome Quote Link to comment
mrbigtanker Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 We'll the frame should be all done at the rate you work with motor tranny installed. Post the dam pics already.lol Quote Link to comment
earlyvws Posted March 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 Well hopefully some serious progress by Sun. The reassembly is taking a little longer cuz I have to figure out the lower control arm bushings, the front leaf spring bushings, ordering and waiting for misc bushings etc. but good news almost everything is now here and I can put everything together starting tonight. The mock up was easy cuz I was using all the old bushings. After switching to the OG 521 leaf spring I no longer had the bushing I needed after it was taken out for powder. The motor and tranny are nearly done and will be pictured soon. Haha 1 Quote Link to comment
jrock4224 Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 we made some energy suspension bushings work in one of the trucks but the were loose ones we had so no idea what they were Quote Link to comment
Z chopper Posted March 21, 2014 Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 I read someplace the NAPZ transmission from a 720 will bolt up to the ka24 engine, and if it is the short trans you won't need a custom drive shaft. I'll try and find the info. 1 Quote Link to comment
datson4life Posted March 21, 2014 Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 Yea ive seen the napz bolt right up to ka's too Quote Link to comment
EastBay521 Posted March 21, 2014 Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 I liked the way a 280zxbox felt behind the ka. had a nice gear ratio.used a naps z bell housing to mount it up Quote Link to comment
earlyvws Posted March 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 Trying to figure out what dizzy I have. I tried searching on every number on the dizzy. The only thing I found was 78 year California manual transmission. So here are the numbers on it D4F7-02 Is this a good dizzy? 1 Quote Link to comment
EastBay521 Posted March 21, 2014 Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 I think I know which one youe are talking about its electronic with two wires coming out of it with a black box connected to it? if so id say theyre good Quote Link to comment
earlyvws Posted March 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 It doesn't have the black box, and I can't tell if it ever did. But it is using the gm module. Quote Link to comment
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