Carter? Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 I am planning on installing some sort of sound deadening into my '78 Goon. Does anyone have an opinion on their favourite products, methods, things to avoid etc? This seems like a fairly cheap and easy way to improve overall comfort inside a relatively noisy car. Quote Link to comment
sycloned916 Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 It's worth it and pretty easy to do. I've used dynamat and just found some other stuff called Fatmat same stuff but cheaper I used on my 520. I'm trying something different with my 510,using VHT epoxy for the floors,then DEI spray matting for the whole inside,then the fatmat,next is the foam padding and then carpet. But ya while you can sound deadend.I would. Quote Link to comment
SRSANDS Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 Im in the same boat....soon to sound mat everything in my dime. My buddies parents build show quality mopars and they swear by rattle trap and or fat mat. 120 bucks for a 100 sq yd of 80 mil thick....thats what Im getting anyways. Then carpet pad then carpet....should be quiet enough Quote Link to comment
jesusno2 Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 its all basically the same crap just different thicknes's. The spray on stuff is gloryfied expensive undercoating. The mat is bisically roofing material if ya break it down, just has a different name. the best approach is find all the thin panels in the car such as, inside the door skin, the roof etc and use the mat for those areas. The floor usually is pretty ridgid but i layer it also,and then as much of the fire wall as possible. Once thats done go back over the car with a acoustic foam to absorb the sound. its really a expensive process so be prepared. i used that peal n seal stuff from lowes and so far it seems to be holding up very well. its not as thick as some of the other stuff avaliable but its cheap, and most of the time thickness is just more of a bitch to get it into tight places anyways. i used to do quite a bit of car audio but techmology has changed since then maybe the materials used have gotten better? somehow i doubt it, they seem to have just have gotten more expensive. Quote Link to comment
shancerlelby Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 this is a rad little video for just what your looking for http://www.howcast.com/videos/60069-Classic-VW-Beetle-Bug-How-To-Sound-Deadening-Insulation-Tip havent tryed it as we use all dynamat products at work. it definatly helps, rattles and thin sheet metal in our cars and trucks is terrible. Quote Link to comment
Creepy Cruiser Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 We use dex-damp on most of the rides we do, but it's pretty expensive. We've used Rattle trap (the thicker 80mil version of Fatmat) on tons of rides, and it works great. If you're on a budget, it's killer. We just got done doing my buddies 510, literally covered everything. It's more quiet than a BMW now. http://cgi.ebay.com/100-80-Mil-Rattle-Trap-FatMat-Deadener-Dynamat-Roller_W0QQitemZ180449853300QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCar_Subwoofers_Enclosures?hash=item2a03a63f74 What ever you get, just make sure it's butyl rubber based not asphalt based. The asphalt based stuff is toxic, and will smell really bad when it gets hot. (most of the roofing ones are asphalt based) Quote Link to comment
ariascarlos1990 Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 heard peel n seal works great. Quote Link to comment
jrock4224 Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 Dyanmats a rip off....fat mat is better cause its cheaper but works about the same... i use a little of that then have bed lined the pans inside and out... your looking to take the resonance out of the metal to make the biggest difference...Upol makes a over the counter stuff thats easy to use and is thick... the thcker the better...works awesome under the car but if your dont have the interior gutted i would reccomend fatmat or the likes....another tip for quieter ride. joot 3/4 -1/2" joot under carpet, under headliner, behind panels... done with and with out on a tahoe of mine and holy crap i almost ruined a starter/flywheel restarting a already running vehicle several times...I had precvoiusly dynamtted the whole thing and wanted it even quieter...man i got what i was looking for... Quote Link to comment
Bob3 Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 I used "Fat Mat", "Rattle Trap"; $159.99 for 100 s/f on ebay with free shipping. $1.60 per s/f. It is very nice, 80 mil thick the thickest I could find. It came in two rolls, 50 s/f each and the shipping weight was 43lbs! You will not believe how much quieter it is now! I love it in my 620 kc! Quote Link to comment
fisch Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 I just saw this in street rodder. Dynadeck by dynomat. It is a carpet replacement/sound deadener. I think it is a pretty cool alternative to carpet! Dynadeck Quote Link to comment
Z-train Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 I gonna use bed liner on the floor of my KC.SHould be interesting. Quote Link to comment
Braden Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 i have used fat mat in my stereo applications, works good, not too expensive either, once its stuck on though its STUCK!!! 1 Quote Link to comment
Carter? Posted January 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Wow everybody. Thanks a lot for all that input. I feel pretty good about moving forward from here and I promise to post photos when I can. I will try out the hardware stores to see if i can find some roofing stuff which is not asphalt based in the interests of keeping costs down. If I can do it for under $100 then I am happy. Now to find a friend with a garage to do this in. Quote Link to comment
shancerlelby Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 that dynadeck stuff looks awesome, i thought it was carpet from the pics. Hella pricy too. Quote Link to comment
sanitys Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 without posting a very long winded reply, check out diymobileaudio forums, just do a search for sound deadener. TONS of reviews, and what works and what doesnt...With that being said I dont think its listed on that site but there are some hot rod forums that swear by latex paint with little bubble things (edit..microspheres) in it. Its been awhile i since I read it, so you will have to google it...I think its a way cheaper version of lizard skin (could be wrong on the name, like i said its been awhile) Quote Link to comment
Carter? Posted January 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 I have less confidence in the paint on products. Just don't sound as realistic to me. I may use one in any particularly hard to reach places but would probably still with a padded material overall. Quote Link to comment
Carter? Posted January 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Went to Home Hardware today but they only had the sticky insulation made with bubble wrap. I tried Canadian Tire but walked out with no more then steel wool, some 3 in 1 oil and shitty window wipes. I will try Slegg lumber and Rona tomorrow. Quote Link to comment
Carter? Posted January 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 I've continued to have no luck finding a cheap alternative to something like a Dynamat. I have a couple more hardware stores to source. Will let you know if anything turns up. Anyone one the Island know of a good place? Quote Link to comment
Greiggy Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 from my experiences ill only touch dynamat and it does the job perfectly once its had a roller on it to get the bubbles out and to get a uniform stick to the panel Quote Link to comment
Carter? Posted January 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 A friend of a friend has a shop and I will see if I can score something like Dynamat on the cheap. Quote Link to comment
ppeters914 Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Dynamat is the big-bucks-everyone-knows-my-name stuff. It works, but there are alternatives. There -WAS- a thread about this, but I'll be damned (yes, me, Mister Did-You-Search-First-You-Moron) if I can find it. :angry: Generally liking the new forum software, but the Search seems to be lacking. Quote Link to comment
mklotz70 Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 The search works better with multiple words in quotes. :) Quote Link to comment
sanitys Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 I gonna use bed liner on the floor of my KC.SHould be interesting. looks decent, dont expect it to reduce noise or heat... Quote Link to comment
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