Mattndew76 Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 Wow. It's a shop I would run from. Can't work for places that won't reinvest in newer tooling. I worked at a robotics manufacturer that had some old Mori's but they held tits on dimensions. .001" true po and ".0002 flatness was common place. +- .005 was unheard of. Never seen so many premature gray haired people in one place ha ha ha ha and some with weird balding patterns. Quote Link to comment
Josh K. Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 That's rough. I see TP0.008" to ABC and bores +/-0.0003". That's bad enough! Quote Link to comment
Josh K. Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 I'm in Washington DC today to inspect one of these http://www.kitamura-machinery.com/products/5axis/mytrunnion5/ Hoping to add it to our collection. 23 CNC's now... :) Quote Link to comment
q-tip Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 I've worked here for almost 8 years, they do invest I'm tooling I actually got a cost savings award for a boring bar that I designed for the blind line bores, I could run it a minimum of twice as fast as the old one. I will admit that the machines they run it on are the best ones we have to do that size of parts Quote Link to comment
datrod Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 This part is a planitary gear carrier. Mat'l is 9310. The gear end is case hardned to 60-64 Rc. true position of the planet pin holes is .0007. To the gear. With a +.0004 on the hole dia. Quote Link to comment
dr.feltersnatch Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 this is the new machine we just bought, should be delivered in may. it will have 3 machines and a 24 pallet cell system. 3 Quote Link to comment
Mattndew76 Posted March 15, 2014 Report Share Posted March 15, 2014 I hate running ductile!!! Just saying. I'm running that crap tonight. Quote Link to comment
Josh K. Posted March 15, 2014 Report Share Posted March 15, 2014 this is the new machine we just bought, should be delivered in may. it will have 3 machines and a 24 pallet cell system. That looks like a Grob. I love horizontal 5 axis machines. That is a sweetheart!! Quote Link to comment
dr.feltersnatch Posted March 15, 2014 Report Share Posted March 15, 2014 yes it is. i have ran a ton of 5 axis stuff but not this style yet. Quote Link to comment
captaingamez Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 Busy ass day at work, I hate being behind production. Going in for side number two. 1 Quote Link to comment
Josh K. Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Nice! Machine? Quote Link to comment
captaingamez Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Nice! Machine? Its just an old HAAS HS-1RP, it does beautiful work though. It was setup to do tripple trees rotating them on 4 stations per pallet. and it has two pallets. So you could switch the workpieces while it was working on pallet two. But now its on wheel duty. Quote Link to comment
q-tip Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 :lol: production machining, every new person in management has said in our shop that "things are going to change around here, we are going to get out more complex parts faster". Then they concede that we can't do production in a job shop that machines castings 1 Quote Link to comment
Josh K. Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 That's an odd looking machine. So X and Y are mounted on the Z axis? That can't be very rigid? Very strange even for Haas.... :) Quote Link to comment
q-tip Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 Looks like x z and b are one the same saddle and the the spindle and y are the head stock of it, setup like a hbm, but I agree, weird for a cabinet CNC like that Quote Link to comment
Mattndew76 Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 If its a Gantry style they can be very rigid. Ran an Okuma that Had Z, and X on the gantry. Then Y, and B on the table. Quote Link to comment
MicroMachinery Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 I don't even know why I bother coming in here.. this stuff is so far beyond me that it hurts my head to even try to keep up. You guys are incredible. 2 Quote Link to comment
Josh K. Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 B appears to be fixed to the pallet changer. X Y are on the Z. Either way its strange... :) http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CC0QtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fm.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DsjNwanx2bQA&ei=myowU-ruFMbvoATLgoCADg&usg=AFQjCNGzxSAHlaSgSKUiT-s8SGHICr4jww&sig2=HBls4TrOBjVJcnyYmzz04g Quote Link to comment
q-tip Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 B appears to be fixed to the pallet changer. X Y are on the Z. Either way its strange... :) http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CC0QtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fm.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DsjNwanx2bQA&ei=myowU-ruFMbvoATLgoCADg&usg=AFQjCNGzxSAHlaSgSKUiT-s8SGHICr4jww&sig2=HBls4TrOBjVJcnyYmzz04g Agreed :lol: Quote Link to comment
captaingamez Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 That's an odd looking machine. So X and Y are mounted on the Z axis? That can't be very rigid? Very strange even for Haas.... :) These are not strange machines, its an HMC, Horizontal machining center. HAAS makes a bunch of them. And it it is very highly rigid,This is not a Kia :rofl: (mill not car) , it makes wheels, and motorcycle tripple trees. Think of it like a standard style mill with an indexing chuck, except the x axis is vertical. The other we have doesnt have a pallet changer and it rotates 4 parts doing a different operation of two parts on each side on a tombstone. each time its done two parts are finished, you move two to the next side of the tombstone and load two sides of the tombstone with fresh stock. It takes about 2 hours to finish a set of tripple trees. And on HAAS its an A axis, not B like on some machines. Quote Link to comment
q-tip Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Not saying an hbm/hcm is weird, its just the way the axis are set up that it weird, even for a haas Quote Link to comment
Josh K. Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Not looking for a pissing match. That machine is "strange" as it's not how "normal" HMC's are setup. The casting on an HMC is usually quiet large and support the Z and X Axes. On the Haas everything rides on the Z axis Linear Guides. Not rigid at all. I'm not banging on your machine. We have lot's of "not so rigid" machines here. We actually own 3 Haas's and I just bought a GR510 Router. Everything has it's use and place. My comment was it's strange for a HMC. I stand by that comment. Haas: Standard: Quote Link to comment
q-tip Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 See that's why its weird :lol: Quote Link to comment
captaingamez Posted March 26, 2014 Report Share Posted March 26, 2014 Not looking for a pissing match. That machine is "strange" as it's not how "normal" HMC's are setup. The casting on an HMC is usually quiet large and support the Z and X Axes. On the Haas everything rides on the Z axis Linear Guides. Not rigid at all. I'm not banging on your machine. We have lot's of "not so rigid" machines here. We actually own 3 Haas's and I just bought a GR510 Router. Everything has it's use and place. My comment was it's strange for a HMC. I stand by that comment. Haas: Standard: The "normal" design would in theory be more rigid, but even at 15 and 16 years old, these machines still do lots of work beautifully, and they are still extremely solid machines. I prefer the VMCs with A axis though. All our machines are HAAS, we dont use anything else. Quote Link to comment
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