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36 minutes ago, banzai510(hainz) said:

or the alternater output wire.

 

if your Fan had a thermocouple w relay that might have been ok (esp in hot areas. Both mine get really HOT on 85deg plus days if stuck in traffic even with the 3 cores. but stock little 4 blade fan

 

No... The heater fan.

 

It has a stock fan.  It's never got hot.  

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On 10/13/2023 at 7:33 AM, Dusten said:

 

 

Mike,

The alternator is internally regulated.  There is no regulator on the fender.  

 

Find the choke heater relay should be on the passenger side inner fender. May be under that black plastic box? Small rectangular about the size of a ping pong ball. Four wires...

 

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Black

Yellow

 

Unplug and check if there is still a parasitic draw. If it's gone now this is because the conversion to internally regulated alternator will wire the choke heater RELAY on permanently. Power to the automatic choke will be off with the ignition but the tiny coil in the relay will be on. If left for more than a weekend it will drain your battery enough to make starting difficult.

 

This needs to be fixed, you can't run without a working choke heater. Let me know, this happened on my two 710s when I converted them.

 

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Thanks Mike

 

Grabbed my fluke and pulled the negative off the battery to measure draw.  As soon as I pulled the negative I heard a relay click.  The choke relay was warm.  Verified removing the relay removed the draw 

 

With the relay off I still have 12v to my choke.  

 

I pulled the relay apart and gutted it and hooked it back up so I don't have a hot plug open.  

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The rubber?  54519-08700 if they still have them. 

 

 

...and I forgot to hit the ENTER key yesterday.

 

These bushing look suspiciously like those on the leaf springs so I checked 54519-08700 for other uses and unfortunately they are unique to the UCA on the 521 and 620.

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7 minutes ago, Dusten said:

 

 

Perfect.  I asked because some suspension you can and some you can't when it comes to bushing replacement 

Those bushings fail pretty often unfortunately.... I had new ones on my 521 and failed within a couple years... maybe 10000 miles....

 

Mikeklotz designed a nice upgrade with a poly bushing with delrin washer on the ends... I looked but he is no longer making them...

 

The rubber ones should be easy enough to find....

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Yes those bushing are common and avail

I jack up the drum to get the preload off(PB BLASTER the shit out of it, loosen the nut to get it started out, whack it with a hammer, then I use a punch so I dont fuck up the threads.

 

Yes Mike made some bushings and I got 2 but havent installed them yet.

 

maybe be good to grease those upI dont know

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One thing I know is you should do the final torque on that bolt with the wheels on ground and resting on its weight.... 

I suppose you could put a jack under the control arm for the same affect... 

I believe you wanna torque it at your ride height so it doesn't over twist or something like that when you set it back down....

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2 hours ago, Crashtd420 said:

One thing I know is you should do the final torque on that bolt with the wheels on ground and resting on its weight.... 

I suppose you could put a jack under the control arm for the same affect... 

I believe you wanna torque it at your ride height so it doesn't over twist or something like that when you set it back down....

 

 

That goes for all suspension.  Final torque should always be done with weight on.  

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I'm sitting around waiting on parts and decided... Let's test compression.

 

The verdict.  She's tired 

 

Cold engine.  Throttle held open.

 

115-120 across the board.

 

Checked cam timing and it seems right.  

I think in the spring I might start looking for a long block and put a cam in it.  I like this truck to much to let it go just yet 

 

 

 

 

 

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44 minutes ago, datzenmike said:

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More oil changes. If you are not using Rotella T4 try it. It is a diesel oil so the detergent package is much higher but over time will clean that varnish off.

 

I use t4.  Remember I've only put about 6000 miles on this.  It had it's second oil change about 2k miles ago(first when I bought it)

 

I'm aware it's been abused.  The previous owner was a sack of dicks.  

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So I was chasing some wiring today and I noticed my fuse panel doesn't match the ewd for my truck.

 

The top left fuse is a 20A and says headlights.  

 

The fuse diagram shows 10.  

 

It also shows one side as ign and one as battery but mines 2/4

 

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I don't know what that cover if for or from.

 

 

The left side fuses are powered at all times

The right side is only switched on with the ignition switch

 

 

'77...

The headlamp fuses on all 620s are 10 amp. and should be on the left closest to the driver.

Next one back is 15 amp tail lights

Back one is 15 amp for horn and 4 way flasher.

 

Front right closest the driver is to the voltage regulator

Next one back is heater/wiper

Back one for dash instruments.

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1 hour ago, datzenmike said:

I don't know what that cover if for or from.

 

 

The left side fuses are powered at all times

The right side is only switched on with the ignition switch

 

 

'77...

The headlamp fuses on all 620s are 10 amp. and should be on the left closest to the driver.

Next one back is 15 amp tail lights

Back one is 15 amp for horn and 4 way flasher.

 

Front right closest the driver is to the voltage regulator

Next one back is heater/wiper

Back one for dash instruments.

 

 

Google 620 fuse cover.  You'll see a ton of listing for this.  Someone bought it and swapped it in.  

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