Eagle_Adam Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 I'd like to see the difference between the $250 setup and the $350 setup 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 I have a 710 with the most common 4 lamp set up. The 521/510/610/620/A10/710 all use them. Rather than answer every combination maybe it can be done with just a few. So my question is how much in $US for the projector set up for halogen? and how much for the HID? Also... What bulbs do they use? Are they off the shelf NAPA replaceable? Do the hi/low beams (outer ones) switch up and down like in the video? 1 Quote Link to comment
uberkevin Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 250$ to irritate the fuck out of the people I'll be driving behind.. I do like being able to see.. hmmm 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 No worries, you'll blend in with them. 2 Quote Link to comment
bens1088 Posted February 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Huge difference in the housings, I'm curious about the light output with the same bulbs. These are some old photos with a slightly different version "new" 575 projector but this should give you an idea. These photos are using 5K 35W HIDs. Here I'd like to see the difference between the $250 setup and the $350 setup The $250 setup uses halogen bulbs, $350 uses HIDs. HIDs are about 2.5x brighter. Don't have any photos at the moment. I have a 710 with the most common 4 lamp set up. The 521/510/610/620/A10/710 all use them. Rather than answer every combination maybe it can be done with just a few. So my question is how much in $US for the projector set up for halogen? and how much for the HID? Also... What bulbs do they use? Are they off the shelf NAPA replaceable? Do the hi/low beams (outer ones) switch up and down like in the video? The halogen setup is ~$250, HID setup is ~$350. We are ONLY selling single beam units right now so you get a set of low beam and a set of high beam. We include a relay harness that will activate all 4 headlamps to come on at once on high beam. Most vehicles shut off the low beam when you activate high beam. The halogen bulbs are H11 bulbs which can be purchased at any auto parts store. The HIDs are generic style H11 which is available at any aftermarket lighting shop. We won't have bi-xenon (high/low on a single projector) for 4-5 months. 250$ to irritate the fuck out of the people I'll be driving behind.. I do like being able to see.. hmmm You won't irritate anyone. We'll be at the good guys show in pleasenton in March if you want to stop by. You can stare right into the middle of the projector and not blind yourself so long as you're under the cutoff line. We're the ones fixing that problem. 3 Quote Link to comment
Laecaon Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 I wish they used D2S bulbs. So are the projectors tuned for HID or Halogen bulbs? Or do you have two different bowls? Quote Link to comment
flatcat19 Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 What do the housings look like, head on? Quote Link to comment
bens1088 Posted February 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 I wish they used D2S bulbs. So are the projectors tuned for HID or Halogen bulbs? Or do you have two different bowls? There's a number of factors that go into these decisions: 1. We're moving towards modular systems (especially LED). There isn't a modular D2S projector out there (too much money to develop one) 2. These are DOT approved as a halogen bulb. (If we got a D2S system DOT approved, we'd also have to use DOT HID kits which would cost more than the kit itself) 3. These are halogen tuned projectors. For 99% of our customers, HIDs will work fine in these units and will be way brighter/safer than stock. Since we're moving to LED eventually, we're not pursuing HID upgrades beyond these units. 4. It's a balance of quality and price. Our first run were more price than quality, these are more balanced. The market share is too small for guys who want super high end kits (since they'll end up building it themselves). Hope that makes sense. Let me know if you have questions or suggestions. 3 Quote Link to comment
bens1088 Posted February 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 What do the housings look like, head on? You mean like this or in a vehicle? Quote Link to comment
flatcat19 Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 You mean like this or in a vehicle? Is that the halo? How about without the halo? Quote Link to comment
q-tip Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 The new version most definitely has a more crisp beam which is nice. 1 Quote Link to comment
thisismatt Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Does the bulb/projector housing seal to the 5.75" lens body? The v1's didn't, and the bulb/projector housing had play (pivoted) about the screw connection on the v1. Those were my biggest concerns with the v1's, but I have to admit, mine are all still sitting in boxes after 2 years as I haven't had a big enough chunk of free time with space to install them :( That said, I like the smooth chrome/reflector look of the v1's better than the new ones. 2 Quote Link to comment
q-tip Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Does the bulb/projector housing seal to the 5.75" lens body? The v1's didn't, and the bulb/projector housing had play (pivoted) about the screw connection on the v1. Those were my biggest concerns with the v1's, but I have to admit, mine are all still sitting in boxes after 2 years as I haven't had a big enough chunk of free time with space to install them :( That said, I like the smooth chrome/reflector look of the v1's better than the new ones. Mine are still in the boxes too. :lol: we put the pro in procrastinate. 3 Quote Link to comment
flatcat19 Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 You guys should get full credit back for those. He already said they were junk. Just better looking than his new ones. Quote Link to comment
HRH Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 I wish they used D2S bulbs. So are the projectors tuned for HID or Halogen bulbs? Or do you have two different bowls? Yeah, me too, I love it when people come into NAPA and they got the factory HID lights in their cars. Oh yeah, that'll be $99. Thanks! :D Quote Link to comment
Laecaon Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 I spend way less than that. Morimoto bulbs online. Any color I want, and about as bright as the philips/osram bulbs, just less life, but at way cheaper prices. I think I spent $50 for a pair on the BMW. That coupled with over driven factory ballasts results in my lights being brighter than almost any car on the street. 1 Quote Link to comment
bens1088 Posted February 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Is that the halo? How about without the halo? That's with the modern halo. Without the halo here. Still working on pics of chromes and classic halos. ETA probably a week or two. The new version most definitely has a more crisp beam which is nice. Yeah it's a much nicer projector Does the bulb/projector housing seal to the 5.75" lens body? The v1's didn't, and the bulb/projector housing had play (pivoted) about the screw connection on the v1. Those were my biggest concerns with the v1's, but I have to admit, mine are all still sitting in boxes after 2 years as I haven't had a big enough chunk of free time with space to install them :( That said, I like the smooth chrome/reflector look of the v1's better than the new ones. They are bolted in and sealed properly. We've been testing them through pretty hard rain and haven't had any condensation or water. You guys should get full credit back for those. He already said they were junk. Just better looking than his new ones. I didn't say they were junk lol. The new ones are just better. We can only do some kind of upgrade value for you guys. (You're better off selling them on ebay though if you want the new ones). Quote Link to comment
q-tip Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Anybody want some slightly out dated brand new installed projectors. :lol: 1 Quote Link to comment
Eagle_Adam Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 For half the price..... Already thought about it, I've got a buddy with a set of the originals and they are much nicer than stock bulbs ;) All technology gets outdated ;) Quote Link to comment
bens1088 Posted February 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Anybody want some slightly out dated brand new installed projectors. :lol: Seriously... you'll get what you paid for them on ebay (if not more). No one makes anything for 5.75 lamps Quote Link to comment
bens1088 Posted February 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Found another terrible photo. This is of our prototype LEDs on the 575 projector. The test car broke a motor mount so we're waiting for parts till we can do an actual shoot. Quote Link to comment
Phixius Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 is there a option for the headlight to be chrome instead of black? to look more like classic and not blacked out dead eye? got any pictures of classic halo vs modern? and 5k vs 6k? 1 Quote Link to comment
bens1088 Posted February 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 is there a option for the headlight to be chrome instead of black? to look more like classic and not blacked out dead eye? got any pictures of classic halo vs modern? and 5k vs 6k? Yeah we're waiting for pics of the chrome and classic halos. 5K is a white, 6K is a blueish hint. Here's a good pic 1 Quote Link to comment
Laecaon Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Needs wider spread. Quote Link to comment
bens1088 Posted February 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Needs wider spread. Always needs wider spread. I have no idea if the lights are aligned properly either. I'll post up "official" photos when they come in. 3 Quote Link to comment
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