Silky_Johnson Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 This is hitting a little close to home for some of us Ratsuners: http://www.oregonlive.com/clackamascounty/index.ssf/2012/12/clackamas_town_center_shooting.html I'm glad my wife and I were at work today. We go there every once in a while. Link to comment
Draker Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 Yeah, crazy man... Hope everyone is well. Link to comment
Silky_Johnson Posted December 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 Word is that two people were killed, one wounded, and the shooter has been "neutralized." Link to comment
Laecaon Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 Silly east side. :ninja: Link to comment
DanielC Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 Update. Neutralized=dead Link to comment
littlejason Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 My wife was planning to go there tomorrow. In fact, I lured her there with my Christmas list. Also, I could have easily been there on my lunch break today. Link to comment
Rustina 510 Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 I work with alot of the business's their all the time, I'm at the clack mall at least a couple hours every few days for work. What a shame, I hope everyone is ok and my heart really goes to the loss of life today Link to comment
cdub42 Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 this is more fodder for gun control wackos. if more ppl had concealed carry permits, if someone there had a concealed carry permit, that guy would have been taken out with less casualties. Link to comment
Draker Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 this is more fodder for gun control wackos. if more ppl had concealed carry permits, if someone there had a concealed carry permit, that guy would have been taken out with less casualties. Clackamas Town Center is private property with signs posted restricting carry. Link to comment
Eagle_Adam Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 really? ive never seen signs saying that but i dont go there often Link to comment
Rustina 510 Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 Yeah my wife takes my kids their all the dam time too. Link to comment
Parkinglotslider521 Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 Unless it's a school or federal property, the worst they can legally do to you is file a trespassing warning. At least here in Florida. I'm going to carry 24/7 when I get my ccp. And if they do catch me and give me a trespassing warning, fuck 'em. I'm making damn sure my kids and wife are safe.I'm from the south, I'd be disowned if I didn't. Try to fuck with my family when I'm carrying. Dead bodies can't testify against you. I had a cop tell me once " if you have to shoot someone in self defense make sure that bastard is dead" 1 Link to comment
Draker Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 Unless it's a school or federal property, the worst they can legally do to you is file a trespassing warning. At least here in Florida. I'm going to carry 24/7 when I get my ccp. And if they do catch me and give me a trespassing warning, fuck 'em. I'm making damn sure my kids and wife are safe.I'm from the south, I'd be disowned if I didn't. Try to fuck with my family when I'm carrying. Dead bodies can't testify against you. I had a cop tell me once " if you have to shoot someone in self defense make sure that bastard is dead" Incorrect. Comment again when you've got your CHL. Link to comment
Eagle_Adam Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 Incorrect. Comment again when you've got your CHL. X2 ^^ Link to comment
Silky_Johnson Posted December 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 IBTL: I should have put a something in this about no gun control opinions... Link to comment
Parkinglotslider521 Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 Not trying to start a flame war, just saying. Sorry. I know from the event with the Disney employee and from other events they get overturned often in Florida. I am uneducated though on a lot of the concealed carry aspects, so if I am massively wrong I'm sorry. :unsure: No need to lock Link to comment
Komeuppance Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 The east side is getting pretty bad... he could have easily gone to a crowded area on the west side though. Dumbass kids these days. Have no sense of responsibility for their own actions. -Robert Link to comment
Silky_Johnson Posted December 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 What a terrible week. http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/14/us/connecticut-school-shooting/index.html We all mourn the loss of all those killed in Newtown, Connecticut, including 20 small children. And PLEASE, no gun control arguments... Link to comment
Z-train Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 Clackamas Town Center is private property with signs posted restricting carry. That means the mall is responsible for your safety untill you return to your vehicle. Link to comment
banzai510(hainz) Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 The Mall Gun was stolen people need to lock up there stuff and not be cheap and get a gun safe Also sice it was a AR15 it really saved lives since they Jam ALOT like the in the Theater shooting.earlier If a AK47 there be more people dead. They dont Jam. persoanlly this is BAD all the way around. For Gun owners events like this its hard to say we all need assault weapens, Hi cap mags ect... Which I all have myself! But really I wished the AK, SKS and cheap assualt weapens was never brought in this country. The show the first 48hrs half the killing is Cheap Hi Point pistols and SKS/ AKs. Ok Knives also. There cheap too. Im sure my M1A/M14 is going to go up in price$$$$ but really it just takes up space in the Attic. Not needed for the American hunter If there is a gun ban they can take my AK and SKS matter of fact ill saw them in half before I would sell it to soembody I dont trust. I just hit them with my USA made Model 70! Its just a sad day today with all these little kids getting shot. Ok back to datsuns!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment
HRH Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 Just horrible. I used to think the over population in the world would be solved by nature finding a disease or something, like the bubonic plague. This is just horrific. Why are there so many people committing these terrible acts? And how does no one see this stuff coming? You'd think there would be triggers that people would recognize and say, you know, Bob's just not right, and intervene. But so often it just doesn't happen that way. Link to comment
dhp123166 Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 It's really not a gun control issue at all; More like an impulse control (lack therof) issue and lack of empathy. Guns just make it easy for those with misfiring synapses to live out their wildest nihilistic fantasies. When a picture of that Oregon shooter hit the web it was easy to make jokes; "Hey bozo what's with the holes in your ears, you're a spoiled suburban dingus not a member of an indigenous South American tribe, the only thing they tell the world about you is that minimum wage is okay..." But there are no jokes to be had about Connecticut... The asshole settings on my character defense armor must be set on low 'cause all I am feeling is extreme empathy. All I see is a pile of little bodies who " [i} do not want to die, only want Christmas" (in a survivors words). I see the parents who will never get to see the kids that they dropped off in the morning at school, alive and kicking again. I can only approximate the grief of being the parent of a murdered child, and it is still horrible, I cannot fathom it x100 or x1000 or x infinity... This too shall pass...and then it will happen again.... 1 Link to comment
h190 Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 In response to the ccdw talk, if you DO carry onto or into a business that has signs posted against carrying weapons the most they can do concerning a 1st time occurrence is ask you leave. If you have your weapon concealed and your not brandishing it, you need not worry anyways. I carry every single day and 99.9% of the public around me has no idea. When I carry my full frame 1911 in summer then its a totally different story. I do have my ccdw license just to keep cocky police officers off my ass should they decide to question me. Concealed or open carry suits me either way. If It is easily hidden under my normal garments the so be it, if its not easily concealed (1911 hip holster in summer) then you will see me in open carry. I also carry concealed to church, this is one place when I DO try to conceal just to make sure that the congregation is focusing on worship and not my sidearm. I have diffused an otherwise physically harmful situation with a firearm before. In one instance I didn't even have to un holster it from under my jacket. Just the movement of my hand when the would be assailant moved towards me was enough for him to change his mind. It was a wise decision on his part. Enough rambling, if your going to carry a gun do it in a respectful manner. Link to comment
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