Laecaon Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 I think my car might be over heating but not 100% sure. Im not sure if I am reading my gauge correctly. This is the highest I have ever seen it go. Normally it hovers around the line to the left of the needle. Basically, is this over heating or do I have a bit more room? Where is too hot on this guage? Quote Link to comment
Laecaon Posted June 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 Oh and I pulled off the free way just in case... So yea Im at a gas station for now... Quote Link to comment
jefe de jefes Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 I run my car everyday at that temp.Maybe your a little low on water/coolant. Quote Link to comment
Laecaon Posted June 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 Causes I know. So not looking for fixes, at least not right now. Just making sure I know how to read the gauge. Quote Link to comment
freaky510 Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 mine gets between the E M with no problems. can you smell anything out of the norm?? Quote Link to comment
Laecaon Posted June 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 No smell. I am just weary because I have never seen it go past that line before. My heater does not work. And I dont know what else does not work. So Im just trying to be cautious about running it too hot. Quote Link to comment
philcas1987 Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 Cruising at 80 in California no problem. You might be high Quote Link to comment
Laecaon Posted June 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 Well I am going on the road again. Things have cooled a bit. Air is getting cooler too. I will see. Quote Link to comment
Guest 510kamikazifreak Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 Thats well within "normal" range(also have to figure that the gauge is out of calibration due to age) If it gets up to the P then "might" be cause for further concern. Get a mechanical gauge if you are weary that way you will know the tempature Oh and hope you got fuel where ever you are at right now,they dont run on E :lol: Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 Yes. That is normal -- check your owners manual. If it gets to the red, then its a problem. Mine runs in center, if it gets to 70 above center. If it gets to 90 it runs close to H line. It has never overheated or blown a gasket. Engine is a 1972 never had the head off. Quote Link to comment
Wide14u Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 i was thinking it should be about therein the first place Quote Link to comment
Wicked Saint Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 Mine ran about 3/4 all day long just about the p. Never had a problem Quote Link to comment
DRIVEN Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 You're fine. Now go home and replace that bad thermostat. Quote Link to comment
Laecaon Posted June 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 It got home just fine. Hotter than Im used to, though I have never run it on a warmer day. So I guess no reason to be alarmed. I need to replace the thermostat just because. Need to completely flush the coolant system (rust colors in coolant) and Heater is not working. Also I need to change the oil, currently has 5w30 which is a tad light for the warmer temperatures. Quote Link to comment
albyneau Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 It got home just fine. Hotter than Im used to, though I have never run it on a warmer day. So I guess no reason to be alarmed. I need to replace the thermostat just because. Need to completely flush the coolant system (rust colors in coolant) and Heater is not working. Also I need to change the oil, currently has 5w30 which is a tad light for the warmer temperatures. The rule of thumb on *ANY* factory temp gauge is normal's about in the middle. The width of your red bed is the "sweat factor". Rusty colored coolant has little chunks of iron floating around~ how well do you think your garden hose would work if you're trying to run pea gravel through it? Rust can hang a t-stat open or closed: closed will overheat fast, open will overheat slow. The latter is actually the more dangerous~ cuz the coolant rushes through so fast there's no heat transfer, but the sender says everything's AOK. Flush the system first, following flush MFR's recommendations. Drain the system and refill with clear water, and add about 1/4-1/2 cup vinegar per gallon (depending on your level of coolant crusties). The acidic vinegar will help dislodge loose rust flakes and eat at any calcification in the cooling system even further. I actually don't buy flush any more~ just do the vinegar thing~ it's all NATURAL! Antifreeze increases the specific gravity- enabling particulates to remain in suspension. Heat cycle the engine a few times~ I typically follow this procedure over a month's time span when flushing. Your mileage may vary. Drain the system, and while it's running out the bottom stick your garden hose in the top. Let engine run at idle, and adjust flow to avoid wasting water. We are not polluting here~ just washing out the remainders of the vinegar & sediment. Run it for a good 15-20 minutes. Turn off the engine and the garden hose, and allow the system to drain fully. DESPITE what you might read on the container, you do not need a 50/50 coolant mix~ unless you're a cheesehead (Wisconsin, for example). I run 20-25% mix here in NorCal. Antifreeze actually INHIBITS heat transfer! It's only benefit lies in it's name. If you don't live where it consistently deep freezes~ YOU DON'T NEED ANTIFREEZE! Redline makes a wonderful product called "water wetter" that provides water pump lubrication and galvanic corrosion protection, without inhibiting heat transfer. If you can't break yourself out of old-school thinking, remember this rule of thumb if nothing else~ green antifreeze is for iron motors, pink is for iron/aluminum motors. Now, for the first person that reads this all the way through and can tell me where antifreeze comes from~ you will receive one *attaboy*, and a cold frosty one @ Canby! So~ old guys pipe in quick~ cuz search engines are faster'n Superman nowadays! Scott Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 Antifreeze comes from o'reilly's! Quote Link to comment
albyneau Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 Antifreeze comes from o'reilly's! Dude~ that is sooo wrong! I won't even let you drink my old coolant for that answer!:P Quote Link to comment
jesusno2 Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 My ka in my wagon I have a stock temp guage and a real guage at 190 degrees my stock guage reads right about the middle of the M. I dunno if the stock guage and the ka sender are a match though. Quote Link to comment
thisismatt Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 YOU DON'T NEED ANTIFREEZE! Redline makes a wonderful product called "water wetter" that provides water pump lubrication and galvanic corrosion protection, without inhibiting heat transfer. Antifreeze also raises the boiling point, so if you have a hotter running motor, you DO need it. Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 The radiator pressure raises the boiling point, hence the 14 psi cap. This works with plain water too. Coolant contains a corrosion inhibitor so that is 2 major features Quote Link to comment
Guest DatsuNoob Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 Water wetter is good too. I used to run it in my vee dubs before I knew better :no: :lol: Quote Link to comment
Jayden71 Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 Both my 620s and my 720 ran there on warm days. My 521 ha a mechanical and it runs at 190. Pullin a hill on a hot day it will get up to 210 Quote Link to comment
albyneau Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 The radiator pressure raises the boiling point, hence the 14 psi cap. This works with plain water too. Coolant contains a corrosion inhibitor so that is 2 major features Correct, ggzilla! Every 1 psi raises the bubblepoint 3 degrees~ so that 14# cap makes for a 254 degree bubblepoint. High performance engines have high cylinder pressures~ either by mechanical compression ratio, or by forced induction. Increased thermal efficiency is great, but there'll still be some of that extra heat conducted through the engine. So we all have to individually decide what the right recipe is on our own. Here in NorCal even with the occasional frosty night or two I just don't need a ratio that get me protection down to 20 degrees, and the resulting raised boil point that'd go with it~ so my coolant isn't colored like jello, more like watered down coolaid... Like I said before, your mileage may vary~ metaphorically speaking... Quote Link to comment
hang_510 Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 if you really want to know where the correct needle spot is for NOT is, then use an external thermometer to 'calibrate' yours. mine barely gets past the line towards C(calibrated to be 173* w/a 191* thermostat) and @ sustained high speed has not gone past 1/2 way. using 4:1 dilution antifreeze is elthylene glycol. syntheticly made. is that what you asked??? o'rielly? mine comes from the head gasket :mad: You might be high whats the C for then? Quote Link to comment
KELMO Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 So Albyneau you only use 20 - 25 % antifreeze? Did I read that right and if so, what type of oustide temps to you get in your area during summer months? Just wondering as I have just lately been running a little hot on the temp guage too. Quote Link to comment
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