DRIVEN Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Ran across these and was curious about the purpose of the slant. Anyone got an answer? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FRONT-BRAKE-SLANT-PADS-DATSUN-210-B310-510-SSS-SUNNY_W0QQitemZ370265346191QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item563588d08f Quote Link to comment
SHADY280 Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 i could see those screetching badly, plus they wouldnt seat until flat on the rotor. also they wouldnt seat on the caliper if flat on the rotor, so technically they would have less stopping power as not as much surface area is touching. i dont know, whats wrong with regular pads. Quote Link to comment
banzai510(hainz) Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 thats the way the 510 caliper rotors/brakes are. Why????? Lets not worry about this Assume the strut angle? Quote Link to comment
72240z Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Wow thats silly stuff right there. Quote Link to comment
MikeRL411 Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Ran across these and was curious about the purpose of the slant. Anyone got an answer?http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FRONT-BRAKE-SLANT-PADS-DATSUN-210-B310-510-SSS-SUNNY_W0QQitemZ370265346191QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item563588d08f These pads are for the Akebono built Lockheed Disc Brakes as on the RL411 SSS and early 70's 510s. The Lockheed brakes pivot about a corner rather than slide horizontally, so the pads are tapered and sit flat on the disc when installed. As they wear down, the caliper rotates about the corner pivot and maintains firm flat pad contact with the disc. Quote Link to comment
72240z Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Sayin it again..... silly lol Quote Link to comment
banzai510(hainz) Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 I know now!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 My 69 510 had those. They are not common Sunny brake pads, but Endo says they fit some 77-80 Sunny, perhaps JDM. The ones i've seen JDM are the same as USA (rectangular pads). Quote Link to comment
DRIVEN Posted December 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 These pads are for the Akebono built Lockheed Disc Brakes as on the RL411 SSS and early 70's 510s. The Lockheed brakes pivot about a corner rather than slide horizontally, so the pads are tapered and sit flat on the disc when installed. As they wear down, the caliper rotates about the corner pivot and maintains firm flat pad contact with the disc. That's a good description for an unusual design. I think I get it:confused:. I had a feeling someone would have the answer. Thanks guys. Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 By the way, these brakes in my 69 were the worst on any car I've ever had, very slow to stop the car. Quote Link to comment
bonvo Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 i have a set of those clapers there definatly interesting to look at lol Quote Link to comment
72wagun Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 My experience with these brakes has been good. I put new pads and rotors on my 510 wagon when I got it, and they are very effective considering the diameter of the rotors. I've had passengers comment on how effective the brakes are:D btw, when I took the old pads off, there was about 1/8" of material left, and it was worn flat (as opposed to the original tapered shape). Quote Link to comment
MikeRL411 Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 My experience with these brakes has been good. I put new pads and rotors on my 510 wagon when I got it, and they are very effective considering the diameter of the rotors. I've had passengers comment on how effective the brakes are:D btw, when I took the old pads off, there was about 1/8" of material left, and it was worn flat (as opposed to the original tapered shape). I bought my RL411 for my wife after she got her driver's license. All her friends were impressed. To quote "Small car, big engine. big horn, REALLY big brakes!" She learned to drive in the middle of the winter in Great Falls Montana on a road that ran along the Missouri River in the canyon by the Great Falls. The "big brakes" came in very handy, along with encouraging careful wheel control. Quote Link to comment
fourfiveten Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Question to the folks that ran these. does the thick end of the pad sit at the front or the rear when installing??? Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Yes. Front and rear. Quote Link to comment
Chris#51EPGraham Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 The pivoting caliper design was a clever way to make a good-but-cheap single piston caliper that avoids the seizure problems of sliding pin designs, which are the usual econo caliper solution. Multiple opposing piston calipers work better but are more expensive to make. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 Big deal. They are on my '74 710. Here's the driver's side. I have not checked my '76 yet. Quote Link to comment
AZhitman Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 The pivoting caliper design was a clever way to make a good-but-cheap single piston caliper that avoids the seizure problems of sliding pin designs, which are the usual econo caliper solution. Multiple opposing piston calipers work better but are more expensive to make. Confirmed. And, like Mike said, they work the same as a flat pad, since all that matters is the surface in relation to the rotor. My 411 stops quite nicely. :) Quote Link to comment
metalmonkey47 Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 Ya know odly enough, my 210 pads almost looks identical to those slant wise, but I'm sure that's because my old rotors were at the end of their life. Quote Link to comment
paradoxx Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 yup, Im using those and for me, are very hard to find.....fortunately, they last longer I guess. Quote Link to comment
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