72dat Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 bought this Did this come as an option? cuz its really nice. Quote Link to comment
72dat Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 never mind. i looked it up and of all the countries that got ac north america definatly had the better looking box. Nice find. Quote Link to comment
Morrisun Posted August 3, 2014 Report Share Posted August 3, 2014 Torn-up a set of tires at the last AutoX, new Toyo 888's on order, will get here next week! Replaced this crusty M/C With a new M/C Installed newer seats from 1200 Turbo coupe, the foam was disintegrating in the old seats Installed new Pertronics Ignition system in rebuilt 1200 distributor with 60,000 volt coil. Best Smurf ever run, no misses and the tach runs soo steady! Nothing like some decent warm weather to want to make the 1200 driving experience alot more fun! 2 Quote Link to comment
gpimm Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 Today's project was installing a new 6.5# cromoly flywheel from B-Projects, new OEM type clutch disk, and a NOS Datsun competition pressure plate proccured from Morrisun a few years ago. Also put on a fresh set of 225/45-13 Toyo R888's that were mounted on second set of Bassett 13x8 wheels. B-Projects- http://www.datsun1200.asia/category/select/cid/285 The flywheel: Going from a lightened 12.5# flywheel to the 6.5# flywheel is a nice change. The engine revs very fast now. Time to kick back. My shoulders hurt from working under the car... 2 Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 No wheel pics?!? :sneaky: ^_^ Quote Link to comment
gpimm Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 Here's one... and another More at http://s1208.photobucket.com/user/gpimm/library/Green?sort=3&page=1 2 Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 That's a lot of meat... :huh: I like it. :thumbup: Autocross times improve much? Guessing braking improved a bit too... Quote Link to comment
gpimm Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 Times with this setup were 2 or 3 seconds faster than the old setup. The old setup was 195/50-15 Bridgestone RE11's on 15x6 wheels that kept the tires tucked in the fenders. Had an issue with the great grip the RE11's had... The car cornered on 3 wheels with the inside front being a couple of inches off the ground. If pushed real hard or with the help of bumps the rear wheel would also come off the ground. I was tired of bicycling around the autocross track. So the car got 2" shorter and 6" wider with more sticky rubber for extra grip. Now the car keeps all 4 wheels on the ground (most of the time) and has grip that is just silly. Had a G meter in the car at one event. It was showing 1.2G in both right and left corners. I've been told by many different drivers that it has more grip than anything they've driven. It's just slow in a straight line... With all the engine tweaks it might be up to 70HP at the wheels now... Another advantage of big sticky tires on a light car is the tires don't wear out very fast. We have been getting over 500 autocross runs on a set of Toyo R888 225/45-13's. At our last 2 day event between myself, my wife, my brother, and a couple of other folks put ~65 runs on the 1200. There are some in car videos here- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8hU-itMabrFhPgXtEq9tXg 2 Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 Times with this setup were 2 or 3 seconds faster than the old setup. Badass! :thumbup: Quote Link to comment
Morrisun Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 Triple 8's arrive via FEDEX this afternoon-YES! I will be ready for Packwood next weekend. Datsun hats available at your Nissan Dealer for about $13.00 Best the hood on SMURF has looked in years.... 2 Quote Link to comment
KiloTango1200 Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 Triple 8's arrive via FEDEX this afternoon-YES! I will be ready for Packwood next weekend. Datsun hats available at your Nissan Dealer for about $13.00 Best the hood on SMURF has looked in years.... Where's the Beef? Right HERE!!! Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Triple 8's arrive via FEDEX this afternoon-YES! I will be ready for Packwood next weekend. Mind if I ask where you got them and how much they cost? That's actually smaller diameter than my current tires. Haven't been able to find that in a 13". :thumbup: Quote Link to comment
Morrisun Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Contact info: William Customer Service Specialist http://www.onlinetires.com/ (877) 465 - 8473 Ext. 1545 Call this # and Ext. and do it over the phone, doesn't cost any more and you avoid delays and confusion by allowing William to place your order! Even though they show up online, they weren't stocked in their local warehouse. 225/45-13 are special order even at Online Tires, however it doesn't cost extra. It does take a couple of extra days though. The cost for 4 tires was $640.60, shipping was at 1/2 price last week and it was $23.32. Total was $663.92, I ordered them on Monday and they arrive FedEx on Saturday afternoon, good service and I am only one state up the coast. For the 1200 guy's autoXing their cars, it becoming the go to tire around here! Quote Link to comment
KiloTango1200 Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Contact info: William Customer Service Specialist http://www.onlinetires.com/ (877) 465 - 8473 Ext. 1545 Call this # and Ext. and do it over the phone, doesn't cost any more and you avoid delays and confusion by allowing William to place your order! Even though they show up online, they weren't stocked in their local warehouse. 225/45-13 are special order even at Online Tires, however it doesn't cost extra. It does take a couple of extra days though. The cost for 4 tires was $640.60, shipping was at 1/2 price last week and it was $23.32. Total was $663.92, I ordered them on Monday and they arrive FedEx on Saturday afternoon, good service and I am only one state up the coast. For the 1200 guy's autoXing their cars, it becoming the go to tire around here! What is your wheel width? Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Thanks! :thumbup: Quote Link to comment
Morrisun Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 My wheel width for the autoX wheels on Smurf are 13 X 7's however according to the custom tires calculator: http://www.rimsntires.com/specspro.jsp They recommend wheel widths from 6.5 to 8.5 for 225/45-13 Toyo's gpimm, runs a wider width- I think?? Not sure.... Quote Link to comment
KiloTango1200 Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 What is the downside running 225/45-13s on a 5.5 in. rim? Not going for super high performance handling, but for a bad ass look at car shows with a 3" lowered 1200 2 Dr. Sedan. Going to get the big brake kit soon. Quote Link to comment
gpimm Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 I'm running the 225/45-13's on 8" wide Bassett wheels with 4" backspace. As the wheels have a 1/2" wide lip it works out that the 4" backspace is -.5" offset. TireRack has the R888's in stock. We placed an online order on Sunday from Packwood and had the tires delivered Tuesday afternoon. They shipped via OnTrack. The tires were shipped Monday morning from Nevada and made it to Washougal Wa by 1:45pm Tuesday. As far as getting the 225's on a 5.5" rim I don't think it will work. The tires are too wide and have very stiff sidewalls. The 185/60-13 R888 fits a 5 to 6.5" rim. The 205/60-13 fits a 5.5 to 7.5" rim. How much of Smurf is getting trimmed to fit the monster tires? I had to raise the rear fender openings 2.5" and trim a lot of material off the front fenders to clear. The 225/45-13 needs a rim in the range of 7 to 8.5" 1 Quote Link to comment
Morrisun Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 The front fenders on Smurf have been hammered out many years ago and yes I mean Hammered. The lower control arms have been pull forward by cutting the tension rod shoulders back 5/8" and adding about 3.5 degrees of castor to the front. The 215/50-13 cleared the front fenders after some sheet metal removal-tires were 1/2 taller, so hoping the front 225/45-13 being 1/2" shorter will clear. The rear is another matter, it's been lowered 2" flipping and cutting some leafs. May end up putting stock height springs back in to get tire clearance for up coming autoX. If the rear end is higher than the front , it would reduce the under-steer some. I haven't lowered the front yet- have acquired all the pieces coil over sleeves and springs, just need to cut front strut tubes down for new inserts- just had work get in the way! Also would need to put correct stock size rear shocks back in place... maybe a skate board would be better this time! 1 Quote Link to comment
graveltrapp Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Lets see some pics with them mounted. cant wait to hear how your times are affected. Have fun in Packwood, I will be out there next summer for sure. You and Dave need to shoot some video of the 1200's in action. Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 What is the downside running 225/45-13s on a 5.5 in. rim? Not going for super high performance handling, but for a bad ass look at car shows Then I'd say the downside is cost. Those tires are pretty damn spendy if you aren't racing on them. ^_^ A 205/60-13 give a pretty good look on a 5.5", and comes in a white letter sidewall. Bulgy, but not crazy. I wish you could still easily get the 195/60-13... If you want to try a 185/60-13, I have a new pair at the shop. 205/60-13 on a 13x5.5: 185/60-13 on a 13x5: 1 Quote Link to comment
KiloTango1200 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 I'm running the 225/45-13's on 8" wide Bassett wheels with 4" backspace. As the wheels have a 1/2" wide lip it works out that the 4" backspace is -.5" offset. TireRack has the R888's in stock. We placed an online order on Sunday from Packwood and had the tires delivered Tuesday afternoon. They shipped via OnTrack. The tires were shipped Monday morning from Nevada and made it to Washougal Wa by 1:45pm Tuesday. As far as getting the 225's on a 5.5" rim I don't think it will work. The tires are too wide and have very stiff sidewalls. The 185/60-13 R888 fits a 5 to 6.5" rim. The 205/60-13 fits a 5.5 to 7.5" rim. How much of Smurf is getting trimmed to fit the monster tires? I had to raise the rear fender openings 2.5" and trim a lot of material off the front fenders to clear. The 225/45-13 needs a rim in the range of 7 to 8.5" That's what I thought but had to ask to be sure. Quote Link to comment
Morrisun Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 These 1200 coupe trunks hold a lot. 195/45-15 daily driver VS 225/45-13 on the right. Trimmed fender from last set of tires. The fronts do stick out a bit more than the backs- extra 1/4" from Klotz brake kit, on each side- thickness of the rotor hat. Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Needs flares. B) 1 Quote Link to comment
gpimm Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 How is the tire clearance between the front corner of the fender and the tire with the wheel turned part way? As you could see in the photos posted a ways back, my front fenders are cut all the way to the bumper pockets, and up to the detail ridge under the flares... Turn the wheel in small increments and bounce the car as brutally as you can, both vertically and side to side. Watch for instances where the fender touches the tires. I've had the most issues with the front corner of the fender and having the top of the tire touch the top of the fender when you are turning hard and hit a bump. The 1200 fenders don't take that very well. When running hard at Packwood you can plan on hitting the bump stops. The cars need to be able to hit the bump stops from straight ahead to full lock without touching the fender. If you like, I'll bring my favorite hammer and dolly as well as some nice tin snips. It's too dry up there to use a cutoff wheel. Quote Link to comment
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