destruction of america

[IZRL]

This is true. At least it seems this is the case for mid 80s millennials and older generations of Blacks, Latinos, and Asians.

 

 

[bottomwatcher]

I made it until Trump started ranting about the immigrants are eating your cats and dogs. It was painful up until then with both participants operating an about a 3rd grade level. I am embarrassed for our country as this is all we have to offer for leadership. Personally my wife and I live rural so we are not taking the brunt of what the country has been taking. Just concentrating on keeping our own little world on track. We will be OK whoever wins but this shitshow is hard to watch unfold. After the elections we will be loading up the house with food, beer and bringing out the old shooting irons just for peace of mind. Then watch the fallout from afar.

[a.d._510_n_ok]

 

[john510]

6 hours ago, tr8er said:

Advisor:  President Trump, whatever the question is, just talk about the border.  Don’t answer any questions about killing the border bill, just deflect and inflate the border talking points.  
 

Trump:  got it.  

 

And the real gold.   

President Trump, do you have a plan?

I have concepts of a plan…

 

shitty showing for both but Trump did embarrass himself more by avoiding direct questions.  (Emphasis on more because they both did)

 

 

closing statements though.   
Trump just talked shit about Harris.  Harris talked about the direction of the nation.  
 

I’ve heard much of democrats not having policy only hating Trump.  I saw the opposite tonight.  Trump literally didn’t touch on a single policy position he holds.  Harris ripped on him just as much as you’d expect, but also at least tried to address policy.  Maybe 5% of what I’d like to have seen though.  
 

next time just give them gloves and let em go for it.  

She talked about the direction of the nation ? And you heard what it was ? What is it I missed it. Harris didn't answer one question asked with an answer related to the question. How many times did she say "Donald Trump" ? Way too many. Her policy is to blame Trump because she's done such a pathetic job as VP. When you've been in a position for nearly four years and all of a sudden you're going to fix everything I'd be a little suspicious. 

[john510]

3 hours ago, IZRL said:

This is true. At least it seems this is the case for mid 80s millennials and older generations of Blacks, Latinos, and Asians.

 

 

That might be the most rational thing I've ever heard Joe say. 

[Ooph!]

1 hour ago, a.d._510_n_ok said:

 

 

Am I taking that man's statement wrong?

It is more important Republicans not use his son as an example than to stop the flow of them so it doesn't happen?

[Ooph!]

 

 

[john510]

2 hours ago, Ooph! said:

 

Am I taking that man's statement wrong?

It is more important Republicans not use his son as an example than to stop the flow of them so it doesn't happen?

 It didn't make sense to me either except maybe he's tired of his sons death being mentioned ? Maybe he hates Trump. I'd be angry my sons death was caused because of some politicians policy but that's just me. I couldn't accept it as God's will or just a random act of violence. 

[yenpit]

From Mike Huckabee to YOU!  If you have a lot of time, here are links to more “fact-checks” of Kamala Harris that the moderators conveniently overlooked. Settle in, this could take a while, and they don’t even include the most obvious debunked lies, like the “Very fine people” hoax that's so tired, it needs Geriotol by now…

https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2024/09/10/fact-check-kamala-harris-distorts-unemployment-figures-to-attack-trump/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/09/10/fact-check-kamala-harris-claims-she-supports-israel/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/09/10/fact-check-kamala-harris-falsely-claims-trump-wants-terminate-constitution/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/09/10/fact-check-kamala-harris-claims-trump-putin-whatever-hell-wants/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/09/10/fact-check-kamala-harris-claims-not-one-us-troop-war-zone/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/09/10/fact-check-kamala-harris-falsely-claims-she-never-called-ban-fracking/

https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2024/09/10/fact-check-harris-falsely-claims-trump-trade-deficit-was-highest-even-seen-in-history-of-america/

https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2024/09/10/fact-check-kamala-harris-falsely-claims-trump-wrote-love-letters-kim-jong-un/

https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2024/09/10/fact-check-kamala-harris-falsely-claims-trump-would-impose-a-national-sales-tax/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/09/10/fact-check-kamala-harris-repeats-false-claim-about-abortion-monitor/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/09/10/fact-check-kamala-harris-claims-biden-harris-admin-ramped-oil-production/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/09/10/fact-check-kamala-harris-suggests-donald-trump-alone-squashed-senate-border-deal/

https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2024/09/10/fact-check-kamala-harris-claims-she-was-raised-in-the-middle-class/

And just to be fair, here are some real fact-checks of things Trump said. Notice something different?…

https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2024/09/10/fact-check-trump-says-his-tariffs-did-not-create-inflation/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/09/10/fact-check-trump-claims-fbis-report-lower-violent-crime-fraud/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/09/10/fact-check-trump-says-kamala-harris-raised-money-for-2020-minnesota-rioters/

[john510]

14 hours ago, john510 said:

 

I didn't see it like you guys did. I thought the mods were fair but like I said I couldn't get into it much. I felt Trump could have done a better job answering instead of defending but it's just in his character to fight back I guess. I'm still convinced Harris is an idiot and will drag this country to lows like none of us have ever experienced. The one thing I really can't stand about her is the constant "Trump Trump Trump" bullshit because she has nothing to say about herself. She sure tried on the "2025" thing. That bit her in the ass.

I need to correct myself here. After watching more of this debate and paying attention to the "fact checking" part of it done by the ABC people, yea Trump got the shitty end of the stick that's for sure. Why wouldn't they fact check Harris and her many lies ? Two that stand out are gun issues and fracking. With that said I still think Trump could have done better if he would have answered questions instead of using his time defending himself from Harris' accusations. Just ignore that idiot and let her screw herself.

[john510]

14 minutes ago, yenpit said:

From Mike Huckabee to YOU!  If you have a lot of time, here are links to more “fact-checks” of Kamala Harris that the moderators conveniently overlooked. Settle in, this could take a while, and they don’t even include the most obvious debunked lies, like the “Very fine people” hoax that's so tired, it needs Geriotol by now…

https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2024/09/10/fact-check-kamala-harris-distorts-unemployment-figures-to-attack-trump/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/09/10/fact-check-kamala-harris-claims-she-supports-israel/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/09/10/fact-check-kamala-harris-falsely-claims-trump-wants-terminate-constitution/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/09/10/fact-check-kamala-harris-claims-trump-putin-whatever-hell-wants/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/09/10/fact-check-kamala-harris-claims-not-one-us-troop-war-zone/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/09/10/fact-check-kamala-harris-falsely-claims-she-never-called-ban-fracking/

https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2024/09/10/fact-check-harris-falsely-claims-trump-trade-deficit-was-highest-even-seen-in-history-of-america/

https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2024/09/10/fact-check-kamala-harris-falsely-claims-trump-wrote-love-letters-kim-jong-un/

https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2024/09/10/fact-check-kamala-harris-falsely-claims-trump-would-impose-a-national-sales-tax/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/09/10/fact-check-kamala-harris-repeats-false-claim-about-abortion-monitor/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/09/10/fact-check-kamala-harris-claims-biden-harris-admin-ramped-oil-production/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/09/10/fact-check-kamala-harris-suggests-donald-trump-alone-squashed-senate-border-deal/

https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2024/09/10/fact-check-kamala-harris-claims-she-was-raised-in-the-middle-class/

And just to be fair, here are some real fact-checks of things Trump said. Notice something different?…

https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2024/09/10/fact-check-trump-says-his-tariffs-did-not-create-inflation/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/09/10/fact-check-trump-claims-fbis-report-lower-violent-crime-fraud/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/09/10/fact-check-trump-says-kamala-harris-raised-money-for-2020-minnesota-rioters/

How long until the anti Trumpers attack this ? It is Breitbart after all. I randomly checked a few of them and can't say it's lies. I should read some more. I'd like to see somebody point out one claim here that isn't true.

Edited September 11 by john510

[a.d._510_n_ok]

[datzenmike]

 

[datzenmike]

 

 

On 9/9/2024 at 11:42 PM, tr8er said:

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/07/trumps-executive-orders-on-prescription-drugs/

https://www.statista.com/statistics/263102/pharmaceutical-market-worldwide-revenue-since-2001/

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-10-29/trump-billions-to-drug-makers-and-hospitals-few-strings-attached

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/03/14/senate-passes-bill-scaling-back-dodd-frank-463825

https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/trump-deregulating-banks-heres-what-means-you-2019-02-12

https://time.com/5845138/donald-trumps-dangerous-attack-on-free-speech-online/

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/09/trump-said-i-like-taking-the-guns-early-not-harris/

 

I re-read your comment.  tried to see it from you not celebrating and hoping for that outcome.   I failed.  

 

I have no press pass. 

 

 

On 9/9/2024 at 11:57 PM, john510 said:

The TDS is strong tonight.

 

20 hours ago, yenpit said:

 

.............all LIBTARD PROGRESSIVE main stream media.................no wonder you are who you are!!!!!!!!!! 😝😂😆🤪😵🙄 (did I get all the good emoji's?)

 

 

1 hour ago, yenpit said:

From Mike Huckabee to YOU!  If you have a lot of time, here are links to more “fact-checks” of Kamala Harris that the moderators conveniently overlooked. Settle in, this could take a while, and they don’t even include the most obvious debunked lies, like the “Very fine people” hoax that's so tired, it needs Geriotol by now…

https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2024/09/10/fact-check-kamala-harris-distorts-unemployment-figures-to-attack-trump/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/09/10/fact-check-kamala-harris-claims-she-supports-israel/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/09/10/fact-check-kamala-harris-falsely-claims-trump-wants-terminate-constitution/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/09/10/fact-check-kamala-harris-claims-trump-putin-whatever-hell-wants/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/09/10/fact-check-kamala-harris-claims-not-one-us-troop-war-zone/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/09/10/fact-check-kamala-harris-falsely-claims-she-never-called-ban-fracking/

https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2024/09/10/fact-check-harris-falsely-claims-trump-trade-deficit-was-highest-even-seen-in-history-of-america/

https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2024/09/10/fact-check-kamala-harris-falsely-claims-trump-wrote-love-letters-kim-jong-un/

https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2024/09/10/fact-check-kamala-harris-falsely-claims-trump-would-impose-a-national-sales-tax/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/09/10/fact-check-kamala-harris-repeats-false-claim-about-abortion-monitor/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/09/10/fact-check-kamala-harris-claims-biden-harris-admin-ramped-oil-production/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/09/10/fact-check-kamala-harris-suggests-donald-trump-alone-squashed-senate-border-deal/

https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2024/09/10/fact-check-kamala-harris-claims-she-was-raised-in-the-middle-class/

And just to be fair, here are some real fact-checks of things Trump said. Notice something different?…

https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2024/09/10/fact-check-trump-says-his-tariffs-did-not-create-inflation/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/09/10/fact-check-trump-claims-fbis-report-lower-violent-crime-fraud/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/09/10/fact-check-trump-says-kamala-harris-raised-money-for-2020-minnesota-rioters/

 

 

 

1 hour ago, john510 said:

How long until the anti Trumpers attack this ? It is Breitbart after all. I randomly checked a few of them and can't say it's lies. I should read some more. I'd like to see somebody point out one claim here that isn't true.

 

In the end all you have proven (maybe) is that both sides are shit and it can back it up with shit. Everyone has an unmovable side, no one changes their mind and would vote a grade three vocabulary in for president. 

[paradime]

 

 

[yenpit]

1 hour ago, john510 said:

How long until the anti Trumpers attack this ? It is Breitbart after all. I randomly checked a few of them and can't say it's lies. I should read some more. I'd like to see somebody point out one claim here that isn't true.

 

I posted it here, just to prod at you know who (multiple)!! 😂😝 I'm not a Breitbart "follower", but looks like Huckabee might be!!  Ya know, John, I watched the last 45min of the debate & all I saw, was the 3 ganging up on Trump & the moderators treating Kamaltoe with respect, while brow-beating Trump.  That was my take on it.  Too bad he let them get to him & he got flustered.  I saw a "notification" somewhere, that Trump declined a "re-match", but I have not had time to look in to if that is true or not!!  I hope the rumors are true, that many are seeing how deeply Kamaltoe lies about pretty much everything! 💩

[yenpit]

1 hour ago, a.d._510_n_ok said:

 

I continue to come here, for YOUR hilarious posts!!  I/we appreciate the humor, in this mess we are all in (well, except for Mike in CANADA!!!!) 🤪

[yenpit]

56 minutes ago, datzenmike said:

 

 

I am NOT dum 😵

[john510]

41 minutes ago, paradime said:

 

 

One of Trump's faults. He usually has that pissed off look on his face. Not a positive thing at a debate. I also find too much smiling or laughing at everything irritating. This is serious stuff and not a popularity contest. I'm sure Harris has been trained to smile like that and laugh everything off when she gets called out. Too bad Trump's not teachable. 

[john510]

11 minutes ago, yenpit said:

 

I posted it here, just to prod at you know who (multiple)!! 😂😝 I'm not a Breitbart "follower", but looks like Huckabee might be!!  Ya know, John, I watched the last 45min of the debate & all I saw, was the 3 ganging up on Trump & the moderators treating Kamaltoe with respect, while brow-beating Trump.  That was my take on it.  Too bad he let them get to him & he got flustered.  I saw a "notification" somewhere, that Trump declined a "re-match", but I have not had time to look in to if that is true or not!!  I hope the rumors are true, that many are seeing how deeply Kamaltoe lies about pretty much everything! 💩

I think he'd do another debate. Not with unfriendly people though. I read through all that Breitbart stuff. I don't think anybody could dispute any of it and NOT be lying. I've never paid any attention to Breitbart mostly because it was associated with Bannon. The more I see of the debate Trump was fucked from the start. It's weird how you watch it and don't see it as much as when you slow things down and pay closer attention. 

[datzenmike]

5 minutes ago, john510 said:

One of Trump's faults. He usually has that pissed off look on his face.

 

That's just him shitting his diaper

[tr8er]

2 hours ago, john510 said:

I need to correct myself here. After watching more of this debate and paying attention to the "fact checking" part of it done by the ABC people, yea Trump got the shitty end of the stick that's for sure. Why wouldn't they fact check Harris and her many lies ? Two that stand out are gun issues and fracking. With that said I still think Trump could have done better if he would have answered questions instead of using his time defending himself from Harris' accusations. Just ignore that idiot and let her screw herself.

You mean where she reiterated her statements on not banning fracking and that she is a gun owner who is not going to take away our guns?  You want them to fact check her on what she is going to do despite her committing to the opposite?  

 

I thought they should fact check Harris as well. 

"And for the listeners our there, we would like to confirm that President Trump did in fact negotiate the release of 5000 prisoners with no disclosed conditions"

"Just to confirm, President trump did contact several senators to ensure the defeat of the border bill that would have funded and expanded border patrol and reduced illegal border crossings"  

More fact checking on Harris would have been a good idea.  

[tr8er]

1 hour ago, datzenmike said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In the end all you have proven (maybe) is that both sides are shit and it can back it up with shit. Everyone has an unmovable side, no one changes their mind and would vote a grade three vocabulary in for president. 

I disagree.  And here is where the difference does lie.  Biden had strong support from the left.  He choked on the debate floor.  Dems saw this, and they fought to remove him from the running.  He wasn't a good candidate.  The party was more than one man.  Trump choked last night, but I guaranty that discussion will not be embraced by the right.  Because right now, the party is not above one man.  I hope this is understood even by the most entrenched of Trump voters.  He will not put party over himself.  He will not put nation over himself.  Read the art of the deal, it is in his core philosophy.  

[paradime]

17 minutes ago, datzenmike said:

 

That's just him shitting his diaper

 

[tr8er]

3 hours ago, yenpit said:

From Mike Huckabee to YOU!  If you have a lot of time, here are links to more “fact-checks” of Kamala Harris that the moderators conveniently overlooked. Settle in, this could take a while, and they don’t even include the most obvious debunked lies, like the “Very fine people” hoax that's so tired, it needs Geriotol by now…

https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2024/09/10/fact-check-kamala-harris-distorts-unemployment-figures-to-attack-trump/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/09/10/fact-check-kamala-harris-claims-she-supports-israel/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/09/10/fact-check-kamala-harris-falsely-claims-trump-wants-terminate-constitution/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/09/10/fact-check-kamala-harris-claims-trump-putin-whatever-hell-wants/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/09/10/fact-check-kamala-harris-claims-not-one-us-troop-war-zone/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/09/10/fact-check-kamala-harris-falsely-claims-she-never-called-ban-fracking/

https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2024/09/10/fact-check-harris-falsely-claims-trump-trade-deficit-was-highest-even-seen-in-history-of-america/

https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2024/09/10/fact-check-kamala-harris-falsely-claims-trump-wrote-love-letters-kim-jong-un/

https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2024/09/10/fact-check-kamala-harris-falsely-claims-trump-would-impose-a-national-sales-tax/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/09/10/fact-check-kamala-harris-repeats-false-claim-about-abortion-monitor/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/09/10/fact-check-kamala-harris-claims-biden-harris-admin-ramped-oil-production/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/09/10/fact-check-kamala-harris-suggests-donald-trump-alone-squashed-senate-border-deal/

https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2024/09/10/fact-check-kamala-harris-claims-she-was-raised-in-the-middle-class/

And just to be fair, here are some real fact-checks of things Trump said. Notice something different?…

https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2024/09/10/fact-check-trump-says-his-tariffs-did-not-create-inflation/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/09/10/fact-check-trump-claims-fbis-report-lower-violent-crime-fraud/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/09/10/fact-check-trump-says-kamala-harris-raised-money-for-2020-minnesota-rioters/

I see the Breitbart bait.  I am not closed to shitty brands producing good products on occasion.  It happens.  It would take a long time to go through all of them, but you should be able to see how they are stretching her calculated words to interpret lies that aren't there.   

 

Headline:  NO TROOPS IN WARZONE,  in article they changed it to "combat zone".  What she said was warzone, which was true.  They called it a lie because we have troops in a combat in non war zones.  

 

Headline:  Claim she lied about fracking.  Yet what she said was that she made it clear in 2020, which was true.  And that she supported legislation supporting fracking.  which was true.  She also claimed that her values have not changed.  Which would be hard to say is false as her values are not determinate to her actions as president, nor were they determinate to her actions as vice president.  Her values are one aspect to decision making that leaders must accept as not the final say.  

 

Those are the first two I clicked.  I'll check the rest later.  I'm not disappointed in Breitbart.  They are selling their product.  

 

good lord I also saw the trade deficit article.  She said "one of the highest in history"  Brietbart claims this is false because it was the third highest in history.  Does the writer not understand "one of"?  That is three for three weak-sauce headline pieces.  

Edited September 11 by tr8er